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Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting a free forum with loads of ads. It won't have any ads. Pages will load in an instant and the search feature will work. I'll upload any skin people want.

I had a working forum (no ads) on Bentex TV V1. 0. A forum/guestbook on v2. 0 and v3. 0. Dandeer was admin on it. He loved it so much he called other forums ugly. Although I give credit to Munez for that design.

I've been admin on forum and web designer for 20 years and XT admin (when they could administrate) for 5 years (including CM).

A little reminder of before all the mud-slinging.

The offer is there.
 

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That's the point of these platforms. Make $$$


I can put it on a server for free. Just need the domain name. Which is $2. :)


If people want vbulletin, it's $200. But it's not essential for the forum we want.
Yes, although I wouldn't think they're making much with most forums being dead. Making $ is fine, as long as the design keeps it from getting in the way.
 

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I'd think you'd be surprised how much they can actually make.


The internet looks all the same now for the 'money makers'. Click bait everywhere. There are still some great underground sites thank God.
 

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It's not really the ads that's the problem. As Bohócki stated we can block them. It's the unuser-friendly platform they use to get the most money from ads.

It's totally against the experince we used to have. Before the forum was easy to find, easy to sign up and easy to post. As an admin I had control over the whole forum. I could add anything, change anything, delete anything. The non-VS admins can't do jack shit now apart from edit/delete posts, ban people and change forum names & description. We can't do what we want, VS have basically just parked us on their server and filled the forum with ads. Any changes are to increase ad revenue and not user experience.

If I had known VS were going to buy XT I would have done everything I could to stop the deal going through. There were always offers to buy the forum. Big Szar tried to buy it too. I knew these money hungry people would destroy XT. Everything they touch gets destroyed.

It's only going to get worse. If you don't want me to create a new home, that's fine.

I just hope the community stays together. I spend more time with people here than I do with some of my family.
 

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I've come around to it. Dark Mode initially looked better but I couldn't stand it after a few days so it's back to the default.

I thought the Recent Discussions tab was great but the "NEW" button is actually waaaaaaay better.

The tabs on the right aren't really doing very much though but they can be easily switched out for something more useful.

What I do like is that the Inter forum is finally recognised for being the powerhouse forum it is by being 2nd only to World Football. Not that it matters much these days. 🥺
 

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Today I tried to reply to a friend's post. It loads, then nothing happens. Tried again, loads, then nothing happens. I also tried it after going to "preview" mode, same thing. I wish I would just work.
 

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Yeah and YouTube used to be just weirdos doing vlogs. Times change. Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk
I know, Jeff and DARK ANDY used YouTube. I'm glad you raised YouTube. It perfectly explains my point. In 2006 when YouTube became a thing. People wanted to post the videos in the forum and not link to the site. Boyo went into admin controls and added it. It was functional in minutes. When youtube upgraded they had wide-screen ratio videos. The members requested it, I added the code. I always remember the code was originally 'test tube'. :D Again functional in seconds! More were requested, I added codes for 5-6 streaming video sites. I could add features that enhanced user experience. You should have seen the forum when huge photos made reading the forum impossible. I had added an image resizer. Martin added a simplified index because the full index was too long. Smileys were added that WE wanted. The :righton: smiley almost saved xtratime by itself. Now, name something that has been added in the last 7-8 years that enhanced user experience or brought more members? Do you remember the upgrade during euro 2016? When Hungary finally made it and we had leg ends return like Ultrafox and zolik. They came to experience the high of seeing Hungary at euro 2016 with their old breadbins! But instead of enjoying this glorious moment..... VS decide to do maintenance and crash the forum and all the passwords are lost! Finally after 14 years of hurt discussing how can we get to the euros, this shit happens. If we had leadership and someone who knows how to build, run and maintain the forum. This should've been one of the biggest football sites on the internet. We would've adapted with the times. Look how Bentex TV started. Basic indexing site with zero features. I adapted with the times. Bentex TV in 2004 was very different to what it finished in 2011. I brought in new features, new blood to invigorate the team. I got sponsorship from Renault Hungary, Euromail and Origo. 120,000 unique viewers worldwide at its height. It never would've done that if I never adapted and improved. It never would've done that if I filled the site up with ads. Also let's not forget one of the ads I did have was for Xtratime! Dandelion, I know it sucks. I've written posts and this shitstate forum loses it. What I'm doing is write the post in notepad or similar and then copy and paste it.
 

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@Bentex excellent post, but I can't correlate it with the guy who shoots at squirrels for fun.
Dude, do you really think Bentex shoots squirrels? I was trolling them. If you look at my photography thread you can see I took many photos of squirrels. Even photos of me taking my nephew to a park full of squirrels. I'm an animal lover. In recent times I took my niece to my local stables to pet some horses. I also took her to a parrot sanctuary. I took her to feed the ducks too. Then we saw some deers. Next week we're going to see some tarantulas and maybe some venemous snakes.
 

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Good for you if you don't.

Toni, do you really believe all the things some people say about me?

When 'they' did a democratic vote to rename the Hungarian chat forum. I had approx 30 members votes for my choice. That's the respect I have from members of this sub-forum.

I made well over 1000 videos for members of Hungaian Football. Not to mention the gifs, animations, photos, fancams. I helped anyone in need, regardless of what it was. PC troubles, life troubles, relationship advice. I was there for all. People sent me gifts in the post (mainly Chocalate). After Jens (Reaperken) broke up with his girlfriend he was really down. I was here night and day for him. He wanted to buy me a brand new PlayStation to say thanks. I told him no, but I accepted the Belgium Chocalate! I still get postcards from members who go on holiday. Another member invited me to stay with his family for a few days in Budapest around a football match. I stayed with him, his wife and 3 young kids. I've met Ultrafox, Szövkap, KFT, Kojak and Máté all over Europe. One member gave me a football his father gave him that he had signed by Puskás, Grosics, Hidegkuti and Buzánszky. Just for all the help I gave him and access to Hungarian Football footage. He didn't miss a kick as I streamed and uploaded matches that I captured edited and uploaded. Kept my pc on for days so everyone can download. I could go on and on. Is this the person who would hack another's account? I got 6 months ban because I tried to help Pista back on the forum. He asked me to check things because no admin would help him. Because I tried to work out the problem, admin turned it into I was hacking his account. 6 months for assisting someone who asked for my help (no good deed).

For years I photoshoped members into movie posters and other such things. I did a chop of a member (after about 20 other members not caring and enjoyed it). The rule was if you post your photo, you can't complain if someone uses it, or chops it. Admins were told that this member never posted the photo on the forum. They said I took it off Facebook and so they banned me. I sent the link on the forum where the member posted the photo. They didn't unban me! One admin and one CM said I did nothing wrong to the rest of the staff. They told me that the other admins/CMs said they don't care if I didn't do something wrong. They want me out. I asked the two, to do what's right and tell them what they're doing is wrong. They told me they were sick of the situation and don't care anymore. How do you think it makes me feel, Toni? After all I did for others and the forum. I also would have deleted the photo if asked.

Here is the best one. With one very low quality phone camera video, I caught my friend watching porn.You couldn't see any naughty bits. I posted the video as humour. Guess what? I was banned for posting porn! How ridiculous! Especially when I've seen other admins post nudes and you could actually see privites. On the video you can't see anything! It's still online on YouTube. If it was porn it would be deleted immediately! After all these injustices (which are just the tip of the iceberg), you can't blame me for being bitter, especially after the time I sacrificed for this forum. Almost a full-time job! I remember that once, Toni. You said "all forums should be like the Hungarian forum". It made me proud. I haven't changed. Just seriously annoyed how my reputation has been assisinated. Not only that, but some people pretended to be my friend. As soon as I was no longer admin they have no time for me and just insult me at every opportunity and they know they'll never be any punishments! I've been called fag, piece of shit, fat shamed, prick and that's just the admins. If I did to them what they did to me.. You know what would happen! I'm still the same person who impressed you way back when. There is a reason why I'm not cordial to some of the 'two-face' members on the forum. Please don't judge me on the rare moments I explored outside this sub-forum.
 

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Bentex, what makes you think anything changed just because VS did another blunder?

You are still the worst administrador in the history of XT, a liar who abused your power and the trust of the rest of the team. A drama queen that lied to take advantage of other posters. You are posting here because we are lenient, otherwise, you are permanent banned member. So don't abuse your luck with fantasies. Put your neck back to the cave or just create that site (how many days now ?) and leavw with all your dummy accounts to have a long conversation with yourself.

Otherwise, just hush.
 

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I don't have any dummy accounts. I've never had a convo with myself.

Name them. Let's the forum know the users that are 'secretly me'. They have a right to know if I have been doing that. We all know who each other is. Nobody here posts incognito + many user have come to my home and used my computer. I have photos of them using it. So if you thought some members IP match we mine... unlucky :D


I never said I'm going to start my own forum. I've had my own sites and forums which are way more successful than XT. My site after one week (ironically 14 years ago this week) had 1000 users, compared 40 maybe 50 XT has now. There is no comparison.


My offers to build a forum, make it the way people want it and hand it over to the elected leader of the site. I will have nothing to do with it after that. They can even park on their server or a bought server (although I could park it easily for free).

I have no disire to be an admin, mod or anything like that. I recently turned down an offer to admin a group of 1200 active members. But the boss is a breadbin so I said he can contact me anytime for help.
I also have an email pretty much begging to be admin of a football forum UK based. I've already been there, done that. Zero interest in it. I'd rather do other things. I just been askd to edit together a story for a Nottingham radio story. Running forums was a passion of mine that died almost a decade ago. I've moved on, the only thing that concerns me is keeping the XTHun and WWE groups together. We're a special group. It'll break my heart if Sanyi says "nincs kedvam" posting on this shitty platform. Once Sanyi's gone then Dandelion will follow. Which leaves myself, Aron, Gyuri and Pista. Pista likes things simple online. I can see him wanting to post but remembers the awful platform and doesn't bother. Aron, is like me. He'll go with what everyone decides. Which leaves my brothas from another motha, Gyuri. He's kinda unpredictable. But without him things wouldn't be the same. The offer isn't just for XTHun. It for everyone. But XTHun and WWE have priority as I opened both forums. It's not about competing with XT. It's about bringing XT up to date with the best user experience. If people don't want it, I'm not losing any sleep over it. Remember everyone, the past is the past. There is no fate, we control what we do next. As for banning me, the only thing it'll achieve is the current XTHun forum will massivley go down in activity. Along with the platform problem it'll most likely have zero activity. XT will lose another 5 members. All for what? Discussing the past and future of XT from my point of view?
 
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