Can you give the sarcastic sanctimony a rest? No one has ever prevented you from making your opinion heard, this victimized role you're playing is getting very old. And besides, what coaching experience do you have? We're all in the same position.Good balanced post. "Unfortunately" this is a bianconeri forum so you are not allowed to make balanced posts and have to paint everything in black and white. That means Ranieri is an "idiot" (although he has coached several top flight teams while the bashers have never ever even coached a local team of 7 year-old boys) and Lippi is an omnipotent god (that's why we sacked him TWICE, winning all these trophies got boring and we wanted to make things more interesting)
Ranieri might have coached several top flight clubs but he's never won anything of note, has he? Why not add that little caveat?
How about all the points we've thrown away this season against smaller teams? How about the running theme of us only starting to play once we've gone behind and must take the game by the scruff of the neck? How about you show some of the balance that you only laud on others who share your point of view? We have not criticized Ranieri half as much as we have in the past, because for the most part he's had a decent season concerning results. We don't have a squad which can challenge for the Scudetto against Inter nor one that can do the same in the CL against Europe's finest. Love Ranieri or hate him, we all find that fact to be self-evident. However, as the manager it's his responsibility to ensure he constructs a squad that can shoulder the ambitions and expectations of the club he's coaching. And this is where you quite conveniently haven't talked about the failure he has consistently demonstrated across several clubs to make them winners. You want to go on and on about how we revere Lippi, but can you question the man's record after all he has done at our club? Have some perspective, it's clear Ranieri is not worth mentioning in the same breath as him, that's not my opinion that's history's. Has his results been satisfactory, sure they have given the mediocre squad he's had to work with. But can we agree that next season a club of our size and stature should be really trying to credibly challenge for honors? And to do that we really need to upgrade the likes of Molinaro, Grygera, Tiago, etc?You are absolutely right. Is Ranieri doing anything special? No. He is achieving what was realistically to be expected. Has he flaws? Obviously. Our team play lacks a lot to be desired and his substitutions are questionable sometimes. Is he as bad as the "experts" in this forum make him out to be? Hell no! His job is to deliver results and overall he is doing exactly that. We will most definitely finish within the top 3 which is exactly where we stand quality-wise. He won a difficult CL group and we were a bit unlucky to go out against a very good Chelsea side. And we still have a good chance to qualify for the CI final.
Prandelli and Spalletti quite obviously do not have the financial backing to really compete at the same level as we do. Why do i have to state something so incredibly obvious to everyone else? And who wanted Spalleti? I certainly didn't, i've always thought he's a one trick pony.Seriously, last year everyone wanted Prandelli and Spalletti in. Both are behind last years result while we won a place. Some want Mourinho whose changes failed miserably at Inter and who is now using Mancinis formular to win the title. Some nickname him "Average One" in Inter forums. Suddenly Capello (nicknamed "Crapello" and bashed for his boring 4-4-2 tactics, sounds familair doesn't it?) is coming up as a great Juve coach although he was bashed the same. Lippi is still god, although people wanted him out badly in 2004. Some want Deschamps back although he was also bashed for some terrible performances in Serie B(!) back in the day and has not been employed by any club since.
Mourinho has been average by his ridiculously high standards, do you want to really question his achievements? What did Ranieri win at his age? Do you see where i'm going with this?
You want to dismiss all the factors that make up the whole criteria and just focus on one (the current league positioning), without including the obvious like Milan not sucking as entirely as they did last season.
And i agree, we do have dips in forms and sometimes we may get caught up in the moment, that's just human nature. But it's not like we didn't criticize Capello for his failure in Europe when assessing his tenure as a whole, or Lippi in his last season where it was clear he had overstayed his managerial welcome, and his underwhelming CL final record. But both these guys regardless of their flaws were and are winners, the same cannot be said of Ranieri.To avoid misunderstandings - I rate Capello, Mourinho and Lippi all higher than Ranieri. But he is still a good coach who does his job, not more not less. He is not the real problem, the real problem is that too many fans live in some kind of fantasy world where dips in form don't exist and where we win every game and every title easily. That's why EVERY Juventus (and every other top teams) coach from Lippi to Cappello to Ranieri got/gets bashed senselessly when things don't go as planned. It's good to be ambitious and to target perfection, but one has to stay realistic. Every team with every coach suffers dips in form and every team has bad games. Some pretend like this only happens with Ranieri, but the same happened under Capello and Lippi with far superior squads.
Why is that so hard to process for you?