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1 year ago, we were so happy with our attacking force. Many of us actually believed that we had the best attack in Serie A. We had Mutu - Adriano and also Bonazzoli - Gilardino on the bench.

But who do we have now? Sorry I don't count players like Degano or Cammarata, Gilardino is actually our only striker. He was a year ago our 4th forward, now he's our only one. That's quite incredible.

I just wanted to request anybody who remeber older days, who were our forwards each season? I just want to see that huge difference.

2004/1 - Gilardino
2003/2 - Adriano, Gilardino
2003/1 - Mutu, Adriano, Gilardino
2002/2 - Mutu, Adriano, Bonazzoli, Gilardino
2002/1 - Di Vaio, Sükür, Bonazzoli

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Di Vaio was our 4;th choice when we had; Amoroso,Mboma,Milosevic too and he turned out to be fine, in fact he helped us make an :ass: out of Moggi. What a deal we got! ;)

Yes it's a tragedy how weak our atacking force has turned too but I don't doupt that we'll strengthen that area come this summer.
 

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Yes it's a tragedy how weak our atacking force has turned too but I don't doupt that we'll strengthen that area come this summer.
Yeah I hope our luck of getting unknown players and making them :star: continues. :happy:
 

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Hmmm... Yeah. But Gilardino is great at the moment. Much better than he was in previous years.

Our best set of strikers ever was in the 98/99 season. Chiesa, Crespo, Balbo and Asprilla.

As fifth choice we had Stanic who although he was mainly a right wing was great up front. He had been top scorer in the Belgian league before he joined us.

The 98/99 squad:

http://www.eufo.de/football/ita/1998/parma_ac.htm

Get ready to cry... :(
 

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Goal:
1 Gianluigi Buffon 28/01/78 ITA 1.90 1993 eigene Jugend
12 Matteo Guardalben 05/06/74 ITA 1.88 1997 Hellas Verona
22 Alessandro Nista 10/07/75 ITA 1.90 1995 Ancona Calcio

Defence:
5 Luigi Apolloni 02/05/67 ITA 1.85 1987 AC Reggiana
3 Antonio Benarrivo 21/08/68 ITA 1.70 1988 AC Padova
17 Fabio Cannavaro 13/09/73 ITA 1.76 1995 SSC Napoli
14 Roberto Mussi 25/08/63 ITA 1.79 1994 Torino Calcio
4 Luigi Sartor 30/01/75 ITA 1.82 1998 Inter Milano
21 Lilian Thuram 01/01/72 FRA 1.85 1996 AS Monaco
24 Paolo Vanoli 12/08/72 ITA 1.84 1998 Hellas Verona

Midfield:
8 Dino Baggio 24/07/71 ITA 1.88 1994 Juventus Torino
15 Alain Boghossian 27/10/70 FRA 1.85 1997 Sampdoria Genoa
23 Stefano Fiore 17/04/75 ITA 1.81 1997 AC Chievo
7 Diego Fuser 11/11/68 ITA 1.83 1998 Lazio Roma
26 Frederico Giunti 06/08/71 ITA 1.76 1997 AC Perugia
25 Raffaele Longo 06/09/77 ITA 1.83 1998 SSC Napoli
19 Pierluigi Orlandini ITA 1.81 1997 Hellas Verona
6 Nestor Sensini 12/10/66 ARG 1.78 1993 Udinese Calcio
13 Mario Stanic 10/04/72 CRO 1.87 1996 Club Brugge
11 Juan Veron 09/03/75 ARG 1.86 1998 Sampdoria Genoa

Attack:
10 Faustino Asprilla 10/11/69 COL 1.78 1997 Newcastle United
18 Abel Balbo 01/06/66 ARG 1.80 1997 AS Roma
20 Enrico Chiesa 29/12/70 ITA 1.76 1996 Sampdoria Genoa
Kader Coubadja 08/04/79 TOG 1.74
9 Hernan Crespo 05/07/75 ARG 1.84 1996 River Plate


Look at that midfield... Oh man... Dino, Alain, Fuser, Fiore, Veron, Sensini, Stanic... Unbelievable. No matter how you look at it we were one of the best teams in Europe. For real. Not just pretending. We were the real deal. That's got to be worth something also now in this difficult moment. Things will never be like that again, but at least we have been there.
 

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How on earth did we not win Lo Scudetto?

:depress:
 

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How on earth did we not win Lo Scudetto?

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We sacked Ancelotti and hired Malesani? We got spectacular football but weren't solid enough. And as you can see from Malesani's other clubs his teams have a tendency to break down in the last third of the season. I think it happened in Fiorentina first, then with us and with Verona (where they got relegated despite having a great team) and now it's happening with Modena. A great autumn is followed by a mediocre spring.
 

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Goal:
1 Gianluigi Buffon 28/01/78 ITA 1.90 1993 eigene Jugend
12 Matteo Guardalben 05/06/74 ITA 1.88 1997 Hellas Verona
22 Alessandro Nista 10/07/75 ITA 1.90 1995 Ancona Calcio

Defence:
5 Luigi Apolloni 02/05/67 ITA 1.85 1987 AC Reggiana
3 Antonio Benarrivo 21/08/68 ITA 1.70 1988 AC Padova
17 Fabio Cannavaro 13/09/73 ITA 1.76 1995 SSC Napoli
14 Roberto Mussi 25/08/63 ITA 1.79 1994 Torino Calcio
4 Luigi Sartor 30/01/75 ITA 1.82 1998 Inter Milano
21 Lilian Thuram 01/01/72 FRA 1.85 1996 AS Monaco
24 Paolo Vanoli 12/08/72 ITA 1.84 1998 Hellas Verona

Midfield:
8 Dino Baggio 24/07/71 ITA 1.88 1994 Juventus Torino
15 Alain Boghossian 27/10/70 FRA 1.85 1997 Sampdoria Genoa
23 Stefano Fiore 17/04/75 ITA 1.81 1997 AC Chievo
7 Diego Fuser 11/11/68 ITA 1.83 1998 Lazio Roma
26 Frederico Giunti 06/08/71 ITA 1.76 1997 AC Perugia
25 Raffaele Longo 06/09/77 ITA 1.83 1998 SSC Napoli
19 Pierluigi Orlandini ITA 1.81 1997 Hellas Verona
6 Nestor Sensini 12/10/66 ARG 1.78 1993 Udinese Calcio
13 Mario Stanic 10/04/72 CRO 1.87 1996 Club Brugge
11 Juan Veron 09/03/75 ARG 1.86 1998 Sampdoria Genoa

Attack:
10 Faustino Asprilla 10/11/69 COL 1.78 1997 Newcastle United
18 Abel Balbo 01/06/66 ARG 1.80 1997 AS Roma
20 Enrico Chiesa 29/12/70 ITA 1.76 1996 Sampdoria Genoa
Kader Coubadja 08/04/79 TOG 1.74
9 Hernan Crespo 05/07/75 ARG 1.84 1996 River Plate


Look at that midfield... Oh man... Dino, Alain, Fuser, Fiore, Veron, Sensini, Stanic... Unbelievable. No matter how you look at it we were one of the best teams in Europe. For real. Not just pretending. We were the real deal. That's got to be worth something also now in this difficult moment. Things will never be like that again, but at least we have been there.
As much as I liked our past team...I feel looking back one has to look at it as not having no regrets...but just enjoy it.

I've sat many times alone thinking what could have been...what if Juve didn't steal the Scudetto from our hands in 97...why did we have 2 consecutive matches (Juve then Milan) where the referee pretty much decided the matches and cost us a title? :(

I then realize that maybe it wasn't to be...maybe no one wanted Parma to win a Scudetto...maybe having a team that had only got promoted 7 years prior was not what peoples wanted to see win the most important cup for any Italian club even more then a european cup. I enjoyed the 97 to 99 season they were our golden years before being stripped of our assets.

I'm :proud: and I still believe that one day in my lifetime Parma will win a Scudetto...I do truly believe that...:) and it keeps me going...
 

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Although I really didn't start to support Parma until 1997 I would still prefer the more home grown style of Scala's Parma over the big spending Parma of Ancelotti and Malesani. I think Parma would have been better off following the first strategy. The strategy that won us immense success in Europe. Three finals and two victories in just 4 years must be unique.

But then again, football was not so damn money oriented back then. The players weren't so greedy and everyone focused more on the sport itself and not so much on the business part of it.
 

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That year you where really great, I still fondly remember your UEFA cup win over Marseille. Also IMO the best year for Veron.

I tell you what is amazing. That is how you manage to have new top strikers every year after losing so many. Of course you are incredible thin now, but Gilardino is impressing more by every game.
 

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VERDI said:
Although I really didn't start to support Parma until 1997 I would still prefer the more home grown style of Scala's Parma over the big spending Parma of Ancelotti and Malesani. I think Parma would have been better off following the first strategy. The strategy that won us immense success in Europe. Three finals and two victories in just 4 years must be unique.

But then again, football was not so damn money oriented back then. The players weren't so greedy and everyone focused more on the sport itself and not so much on the business part of it.
Times have changed...and I forecast times will change again with football having less money but a new way of trading will come into place.

If I was Fifa I would make new sets of rules much like in American sport where the less fortunate team are given first options on potential new sisgings rather then have teams scoff down and ruin talent. For example I would set up academies that will be used to make the future stars....I would then when they need to be promoted give the chance to smaller clubs to buy etc. The big clubs will have to make due with their own resources and wouldn't be able to buy these players till a certain time and if they do they pay a heavy tax of some kind.

I have many idea's like this to help the less fortunate teams to make competition between smaller and bigger teams a minimal gap between them. Looking at the gap in clubs today they are far too wide for my liking and something needs to be done to make the gap smaller...although looking at Serie A and us ahead of Inter brings a great big smile on my face because they have everything they need to set up success but it is being wasted. :D
 

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If you are to copy the american system of trading and drafts you can't have open leagues where you can get relegated. It must be a closed league where the teams stay the same. The only way in would be to propose a good package to the league and prove that you can make money and contribute to the league's markebility or simply to buy one of the clubs, or franchise, and relocate it. Let's say Paris wanted a team in this league. Then they could simply buy Real Madrid and instead call it Real Paris.

This is the american system. I don't like it. And it's still the rich clubs getting the results year in and year out despite the draft system. (Even if you have NY Rangers in the NHL who's doing their best to copy Inter's plan... :D)

A more reasonable way would be to limit the number of players you can own and the number of players you can have in your squad. Let's say that no team can have more than 25 senior players. The rest have to be under 20s. Together with a salary roof for the squad this would make wonders. The roof should be higher than what most teams could afford as it would be ridiculous otherwise. This would certainly create a more even league although the big teams would still attract most players.
 

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VERDI said:
If you are to copy the american system of trading and drafts you can't have open leagues where you can get relegated. It must be a closed league where the teams stay the same. The only way in would be to propose a good package to the league and prove that you can make money and contribute to the league's markebility or simply to buy one of the clubs, or franchise, and relocate it. Let's say Paris wanted a team in this league. Then they could simply buy Real Madrid and instead call it Real Paris.

This is the american system. I don't like it. And it's still the rich clubs getting the results year in and year out despite the draft system. (Even if you have NY Rangers in the NHL who's doing their best to copy Inter's plan... :D)

A more reasonable way would be to limit the number of players you can own and the number of players you can have in your squad. Let's say that no team can have more than 25 senior players. The rest have to be under 20s. Together with a salary roof for the squad this would make wonders. The roof should be higher than what most teams could afford as it would be ridiculous otherwise. This would certainly create a more even league although the big teams would still attract most players.
Well I didn't mean a total implementation of the american system just bits here and there. The American system would never work I think in football even if it was implemented...plus it would complicate matters and bring a lot more politics into the game and there is already too much politics in football for my liking.
 

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Goal:
1 Gianluigi Buffon 28/01/78 ITA 1.90 1993 eigene Jugend
12 Matteo Guardalben 05/06/74 ITA 1.88 1997 Hellas Verona
22 Alessandro Nista 10/07/75 ITA 1.90 1995 Ancona Calcio

Defence:
5 Luigi Apolloni 02/05/67 ITA 1.85 1987 AC Reggiana
3 Antonio Benarrivo 21/08/68 ITA 1.70 1988 AC Padova
17 Fabio Cannavaro 13/09/73 ITA 1.76 1995 SSC Napoli
14 Roberto Mussi 25/08/63 ITA 1.79 1994 Torino Calcio
4 Luigi Sartor 30/01/75 ITA 1.82 1998 Inter Milano
21 Lilian Thuram 01/01/72 FRA 1.85 1996 AS Monaco
24 Paolo Vanoli 12/08/72 ITA 1.84 1998 Hellas Verona

Midfield:
8 Dino Baggio 24/07/71 ITA 1.88 1994 Juventus Torino
15 Alain Boghossian 27/10/70 FRA 1.85 1997 Sampdoria Genoa
23 Stefano Fiore 17/04/75 ITA 1.81 1997 AC Chievo
7 Diego Fuser 11/11/68 ITA 1.83 1998 Lazio Roma
26 Frederico Giunti 06/08/71 ITA 1.76 1997 AC Perugia
25 Raffaele Longo 06/09/77 ITA 1.83 1998 SSC Napoli
19 Pierluigi Orlandini ITA 1.81 1997 Hellas Verona
6 Nestor Sensini 12/10/66 ARG 1.78 1993 Udinese Calcio
13 Mario Stanic 10/04/72 CRO 1.87 1996 Club Brugge
11 Juan Veron 09/03/75 ARG 1.86 1998 Sampdoria Genoa

Attack:
10 Faustino Asprilla 10/11/69 COL 1.78 1997 Newcastle United
18 Abel Balbo 01/06/66 ARG 1.80 1997 AS Roma
20 Enrico Chiesa 29/12/70 ITA 1.76 1996 Sampdoria Genoa
Kader Coubadja 08/04/79 TOG 1.74
9 Hernan Crespo 05/07/75 ARG 1.84 1996 River Plate


Look at that midfield... Oh man... Dino, Alain, Fuser, Fiore, Veron, Sensini, Stanic... Unbelievable. No matter how you look at it we were one of the best teams in Europe. For real. Not just pretending. We were the real deal. That's got to be worth something also now in this difficult moment. Things will never be like that again, but at least we have been there.
Thoe were the days...:rollani: :proud::strong: :star: :heart::(
 
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