[Khai]

When a referee commits mistakes in a match, these are the following steps you can take to explain it to the loser team who did not benefit from the calls...

1) If the loser team played badly in the game (ie Italy), this would be easy. Just say that they played like crap and did not DESERVE to go through. End of story.

2) If the loser team played rather well and played attacking football and still lost (ie Spain), this is harder but still possible to explain. Just say that they did not take their chances when it came to them, and that they were just plain unlucky and that they cannot possible blame it on anybody else.

3) If the above 2 steps does not work, this one should. BRING UP THE PAST! Sift through the annals of world cup soccer history, pore through them and come up with examples of disputed decisions, eg Hand of God in 1986, 1966 finals disputed goal. Follow through with explanations of "it has all happened in the past, so why you complaining now" or "what goes around comes around, you will get better luck next time".

In the process of implementing the above steps, if at any one time, the dissenting voices from the loser team becomes too frequent and irritating, just slap them with a "You are just a sore loser" or "Please display more sportmanship and don't be sour grapes". This should shut them up.

P/S: The above steps are easier to implement if the winner team is a really likeable bunch of hardworking, full of heart, dedicated individuals (ie Korea) from a small football nation. Better still if the loser, complaining team is a big, traditional football nation. In this case, you can just accuse the loser team of bullying the smaller nations.

 

[paw]

Well, even Blatter admits that some things must change for the next big tournament with regards to the standard of refereeing, so the referees are also getting a big kick up their butts. They have to improve or else they are gone. Even big name referees have been sent home, so they are not safe.

Perhaps we should not tell the loser team what to do and instead let them form their own conspiracy theories. Korea did tell FIFA to give them the World Cup and appoint the referees to a tune of millions of won. The referees are supposed to find any good reasons to disallow goals scored against Korea. They are suppose to blow for a goal even if the Koreans did not score. During the penalty shootout, the opposition goalkeeper is not supposed to save while the Korean goalkeeper must be told where the ball is to be placed by the attacker. How's that?

paw

 

[Reza]

Here is an idea. Play the game without refs:tongue:

 

[Sabry]

Cool idea But I have a better one, we can grow up and understand that since we let our strikers get away with making horrible mistakes in front of the goal (missing easy chances) we can also let humans go away with making very close bad calls in split seconds without having a chance to see the play again.


Yo, paw, FIFA said they will be experimenting with a new thing, its putting the 4th official behind the goal :dazed: They say this way he will be looking for shirt pulling and pushing in the area, leaving the linesman to concentrate more on the offsides.. Not a bad idea I think.

 

[paw]

Then there will be 6 officials on the field. Cool idea, if you were to ask me. The more the merrier and the more blame can be passed on to everybody. It is not so now, it seems, as the referee gets the rap ALL the time. Look at Poll and the Egyptian referee.

paw

 

[Sabry]

Then there will be 6 officials on the field. Cool idea, if you were to ask me. The more the merrier and the more blame can be passed on to everybody. It is not so now, it seems, as the referee gets the rap ALL the time. Look at Poll and the Egyptian referee.

paw

Yeah, the more the better. But you are left with a coordination problem now. At first, the referee had to look only at his linesman. Now he will have to look at the linesman and the official behind the net, which means he will miss many incidents. For example in the Spain game Korea had the ball and made a long pass, Gamal looked at his assistant to see if its offside and at this minute Helguera elbowed Ahn in the face so who saw it ? No one but its on TV. Now imagine twice those fouls with twice the referees ..

As for referees getting the rap all the time, its only normal but its charactarized by loserness. For some reason they say the referee whistled because he knew the ball was going to Morientes head who would score. If thats the case, then why didnt the referee whistle for any of the 4 headers from corners Spain had in the first half and all of them went inches over the bar ? There is no logic at all behind their babbling..

 

[IndianDude]

When a referee commits mistakes in a match, these are the following steps you can take to explain it to the loser team who did not benefit from the calls...

1) If the loser team played badly in the game (ie Italy), this would be easy. Just say that they played like crap and did not DESERVE to go through. End of story.

2) If the loser team played rather well and played attacking football and still lost (ie Spain), this is harder but still possible to explain. Just say that they did not take their chances when it came to them, and that they were just plain unlucky and that they cannot possible blame it on anybody else.

3) If the above 2 steps does not work, this one should. BRING UP THE PAST! Sift through the annals of world cup soccer history, pore through them and come up with examples of disputed decisions, eg Hand of God in 1986, 1966 finals disputed goal. Follow through with explanations of "it has all happened in the past, so why you complaining now" or "what goes around comes around, you will get better luck next time".

In the process of implementing the above steps, if at any one time, the dissenting voices from the loser team becomes too frequent and irritating, just slap them with a "You are just a sore loser" or "Please display more sportmanship and don't be sour grapes". This should shut them up.

P/S: The above steps are easier to implement if the winner team is a really likeable bunch of hardworking, full of heart, dedicated individuals (ie Korea) from a small football nation. Better still if the loser, complaining team is a big, traditional football nation. In this case, you can just accuse the loser team of bullying the smaller nations.

The hardest convincing is for point 2 where theloser team played well especially if they had bad decisions against them eg:Spain.
If spain had hit the post 5 times and missed chances then its easier to tell them to blame their own strikers.few people accept ill-luck as a resaon and keep shut, generally they love to keep harping on their team's superiority.
Also calls regarding shirt pulling are real tough for most of them are subtle and even subtle tugs and pushes can offbalance an attacker going for the ball during free-kicks and corners.I believe its almost impossible to get it right and we will always have the "it happens all the time, so why call it now excuse" from teams getting penalised for it.
However the off the ball incidents can be reduced using extra officials. I agree with sabry that blaming the ref is ridiculous but I can understand the feeling of people who feel hard done by.But these calls happen all the time in all matches and generally tend to equalise over a period of time.ask France and see the calls and luck they had in Euro2000 and in this World Cup.What a contrast

 

[Bastin]

[BYo, paw, FIFA said they will be experimenting with a new thing, its putting the 4th official behind the goal :dazed: They say this way he will be looking for shirt pulling and pushing in the area, leaving the linesman to concentrate more on the offsides.. Not a bad idea I think. [/B]

Who suggested this originally? Herbert Chapman.
When? 78 years ago.
Who listened then? No-one.
Who'll listen now? Everyone.
Why?

 

[Grinch]

Ways to get away from your own team's mistakes

Ways to get away from your own team's mistakes:

1) Blame the referee.

2) Blame FIFA.

3) Blame the "evil conspiracy to Give Korea The World Cup".

4) Claim all those shots given after the referee had whistled were valid goals, and therefore they were 'disallowed' goals - no, of course they were goals, the ball hit the net!! The ref whistled?!? The ref is a corrupt $&#@%! It's a goal because Tommasi SAID so!! :devil:

5) When your team fouls an adversary, the ref whistles for the foul yet the ball hits the net - it's a disallowed goal. If your player pushes an opponent's shirt, the ref whistles the foul but the ball ends up in the net - it's also a disallowed goal. The referee's whistles don't count if the ball hits the net, because then it's a conspiracy. :rollani:

6) Blame the third-world referees for everything even when most of the bad calls are made by European refs. And if an European ref is shamelessly selected to run a game involving an Euro team, and this Euro ref calls a non-existent offside that helps the Euro team... well, the non-Euro team deserved it! They're not even European, they should be glad they made it this far!!


But seriously...
IMHO there is ONE country who has a right to feel damaged by a horrible refereeing mistake that helped Korea: Spain, because they scored ONE goal (and not two or three). The others should really swallow that bile and move on, y'know?

 

[ToniSamp]

Who suggested this originally? Herbert Chapman.
When? 78 years ago.
Who listened then? No-one.
Who'll listen now? Everyone.
Why?

Something changed in 78 years.....
I think that this 4th official is one of the most useless ideas. The linesmen are always wrong not because they look at the players pulling and pushing in the area, but because they never look at the player who make the long pass and just concentrate on the players who may receive the ball.

The only solution is TV.

 

[Sabry]

Something changed in 78 years.....
I think that this 4th official is one of the most useless ideas. The linesmen are always wrong not because they look at the players pulling and pushing in the area, but because they never look at the player who make the long pass and just concentrate on the players who may receive the ball.

The only solution is TV.

I think there are many linesman mistakes for a simple reason, the linesman must stay on the same line with the last defender but also must concentrate on the ball to know when the play was made. So as soon as he watches the ball being passed to the attacker and turns, the attacker has already taken a few steps in front.. He may not have been offside at the moment the play was made but the linesman cant know because it takes him time to shift his attention from the ball to the attacker.

 

[ToniSamp]

It is was I said..... and since a linesman can't be squint-eyed.... we need TV.