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Blaming me is a joke, says Veron
By Alex Montgomery
Exclusive: Juan Sebastian Veron has read the derogatory headlines and absorbed all the barbs.

Veron: To prove himself
(ShaunBotterill/Allsport)
He knows what they are saying in England - that at £28.1million he is the most expensive flop in British football history and that his face does not fit in the Old Trafford dressing room.

But the Argentinian, heralded as of one of the world's greatest midfielders when he arrived in England a year ago, refuses to fill the role of scapegoat at Manchester United.

Furthermore, he suggests that other players within the camp were worrying more about the World Cup than the club's title run-in.

Whatever the reason, United failed to finish in the top two of the Premiership for the first time in 10 years and ended the season without a trophy.

'For me to be blamed for the lack of success is a joke,' Veron said. 'I had to struggle on with injuries. I came back towards the end of the season in the Champions league matches only 70 per cent fit.

'This was known by everyone at the club but while I put my own World Cup ambitions in jeopardy by risking further more serious injury, others acted unprofessionally.

'They picked up a series of suspensions and apparently had the club's best interests in mind, yet I was singled out for criticism.'

Veron, speaking for the first time since Argentina's humiliating exit from the World Cup finals, added: 'The first season at United was so disappointing for a number of reasons.

'I started well but the team's shape was not right. Injuries took a hand and I struggled to regain my early season's form.

'Players were then lost through a lack of discipline in the team. This must be addressed for next season. You cannot allow players to be missing from very important games due to indiscipline.

'We are involved in a professional game and you must adopt professional attitude. You must never allow your emotions to cloud good judgment as some have done at this club.'

Despite the criticism of unnamed team-mates, Veron is determined to complete unfinished business, not only to prove to English sceptics wrong, but also as an obligation to his manager, Sir Alex Ferguson.

An extraordinary bond has developed between the two in the past year - and Veron is in no mood to walk away from United.

'My own ambition is secondary to the enormous debt of honour and friendship that I owe to Alex Ferguson,' he said. 'It stems from those periods last season that weren't pleasant, when the headlines about me were "misfit" and "Ferguson's worst buy" when my commitment and ability were being

constantly questioned. He stood by me and defended my reputation in public. In private when he recognised there were moments of great doubt coming from within me he offered me words of reassurance and great kindness.

'He would see this, as a father does with his son, and react with a word, a wink, a smile.

'These are the qualities of not just a champion manager but a good and kind man. It is why I must repay this debt. The question is always the same - am I staying at United or am I leaving? This is the simple answer: I am staying and I would like to see out at least the remaining years of my contract - and possibly more if they want me to. I want to show the people of Manchester that I have it in me to be a champion. In achieving my own ambitions I would also fulfil the ambitions of this club.'

Despite the continuing speculation that he could be sold to finance United's intended purchase of a centre-half, Veron is likely to get his wish to stay.

'I accept speculation is part of the beautiful game,' says Veron. 'But, I repeat, I am a Manchester United player as long as they require my services.'

Veron is in Italy and has not yet been back to Argentina since his country's humiliation.

It was not the depth of the criticism that stopped Veron returning to Buenos Aires after Argentina's World Cup elimination, but seeing the pain on the faces of the people in the middle of that country's recession. 'It would be too much to bear. There were so many hopes. We had the chance to lift the dark clouds and failed to do so,' he said. 'That is a burden we will carry till death.

'We will find a place in their hearts again. The Argentine values loyalty above all else.'

As for England's World Cup, Veron has picked out his United teammates, Nicky Butt and, inevitably, David Beckham, plus Leeds United defender Rio Ferdinand as the country's three outstanding players.

Veron is certain all three will be around in four years' time for the 2006 World Cup. Yet in the short term there are more immediate goals.

'I will only concentrate on bringing success to my club,' he said.'My debt of honour to my manager must be paid in full.'
 

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thanks very much kyo.

i've heard this excuse of being unfit several times now. he started well and the severe drop in form in the latter half of the season was certainly noticeable. beckham being laid off for so long really put presure on juan to perform, especially when forced to play out of position in an unfit state.

peter kenyon was quoted as saying the other day, that among other big news, veron was looking for a move out of old trafford. should he go he'll be a coward who hasn't got the guts to answer his critics, however, should he decide to stay i'm sure he'll have a spectacular season, providing he can steer clear of injuries.
 

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I think the world cup pressures have been heavy on Juans shoulders too, he was under so fecking pressures, and the English media acted so harsh to him as he is a part of the Argentinian national team.

If he was like Ducher the one who broke that bone of becks leg, they wouldnt give a toss for his performance if you ask me.

Alot of reasons for his disappointing season with the lads.
 

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Kyo said:
'This was known by everyone at the club but while I put my own World Cup ambitions in jeopardy by risking further more serious injury, others acted unprofessionally.

'They picked up a series of suspensions and apparently had the club's best interests in mind, yet I was singled out for criticism.'


'I started well but the team's shape was not right. Injuries took a hand and I struggled to regain my early season's form.

'Players were then lost through a lack of discipline in the team. This must be addressed for next season. You cannot allow players to be missing from very important games due to indiscipline.

'We are involved in a professional game and you must adopt professional attitude. You must never allow your emotions to cloud good judgment as some have done at this club.'

I really do have to laugh at that. I wouldn't blame veron for our season, but he was certainly part of the overall problem. Firstly, I fail to remember this great start to the campaign he is talking about. He set himself a poor standard early on, and lets face it, he failed to live up to even that. As for a lack of professionalism amongst his teammates, well, when you have guys out there giving it their all, risking everything like Keano who really was playing injured, and managed to maintain a standard of play over and above anything veron came close to, then you see someone who put the club first before himself. I realise that tabloids do blow things out of proportion, but this is just a load of bollox. veron needs to sort his attitude and his focus out, and decide what he wants to do. Because quite frankly, he was poor for United, and non existant for Argentina. Just because he performed well for a team in Italy doesn't mean he can rest on his laurals when he gets to England. The game is faster and more demanding here. He needs to decide whether he is going to make a go of it, get stuck in, play the man and do it for his team, or does he want to p!ss of back to whereever and let someone who is committed to United come in. If he really is loyal, he'll take his fair share of the blame, put the comments behind him, and take a leaf out of David Beckham's book and use the experience for some personal growth. Not as an emotional crutch to lean on.
 

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Veron will prove his critics wrong this season and I more than anyone would be delighted if he did. I think we seem to have forgot why we bought Juan, remember some of his performances for Lazio (CL especially), he was fantastic, hopefully he can produce these performances for United.
Juan Seba Veron, theres only Juan Seba Veron, Juan Seba Veron.
 

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I think Fred is being a bit too harsh on Veron. Well that is his opinion about Veron and I am not gonna bother to try and change it. However, I feel that Veron did have a good start to the season (although, it didnt last for long) and fizzled out towards the middle of the season. I wouldnt call his performance for Argentina non-existent; I personally feel he did pretty well in the first game and played truly well in the last game (although it was only for the last 20 to 30 mins i guess). I personally feel if Veron stays in Man U this season, he is gonna prove his detractors wrong and perform very well.
 

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Despite the criticism of unnamed team-mates, Veron is determined to complete unfinished business
How does this man have the balls to critise others when he had a very very bad season himself.

I just really hope he proves us all wrong and starts to play like his reputation suggests he should/can.


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Day by day rumours of Veron moving away from Old Trafford are increasing.It was a long time ago when Richard Keys said on Sky that if Rio arrived at Old Trafford then Seba would have to leave.How much that's true is anybody's guess!:rollani:

However these comments of his wont create a really "friendly" environment inside the dressing room.Its never good to blame others for your shortcomings and specially your own team-mates.Some of the guys wont take this well and surely Fergie wont like all this either.Seba's been a disappointment in his first season at OT and also flopped at the WC.I sincerely hope that he finally recovers from whatever injury that he's been nagging on for the past season or so ans shows his true class to the rest of the world.:)
 

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Veron is a champion and IMHO one of the best midfielders in the world. He had a bad season, but let's look at the circumstances: Manchester had a midfield filled with capable players who had their supporters' confidence. Veron came from a different league (I really don't think EPL is 'better', it's just different) and had to adjust to a powerful team. One would think it would be easy, but sometimes adaptation isn't that fast.

Fred, I respect you views, but dismissing Veron as someone who 'did well for an Italian club' is not reasonable. This man is absolutely world-class. Give him time, and I'm positive he will deliver what the fans expect. if he doesn't, send him to Botafogo on a free and we'll be happy to have him. :D :rollani:
 

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Fred, I respect you views, but dismissing Veron as someone who 'did well for an Italian club' is not reasonable. This man is absolutely world-class. Give him time, and I'm positive he will deliver what the fans expect. if he doesn't, send him to Botafogo on a free and we'll be happy to have him. :D :rollani:
well, the thing is, Veron has had a lot of support from various quarters, who've all dismissed his complete lack of form as if its perfectly acceptable for a man with such a fine reputation to stroll on to a pitch and not show any inclination to compete for the ball. Now, I know he's not a ball winner, but the thing is, tackling is part of the game. It certainly is in Italy where he made a name for himself and I'm sure he was expected to work hard over there. He must have done, because if anything, the Italian press is more critical of foreign players who don't perform than ours is. Yes I realise he's a 'playmaker' in the continental and South American sense, but if you are in midfield, there are times when you must make a challenge and either close down the opposition, put some tackles in, compete in the air, or at least assist your team mates in shadowing an attacking player. Veron didn't show much of an inclination to do any of these things. And in the English game, you have to work hard. The pace is faster than Italy, the ball is passed very quickly out of defence, through midfield and distributed wide or through the middle. You need to be alert, focused, ready and willing. Ok, if you are not used to the pace, then yes you need some time to adapt. He has had a season now to adjust. The pressure is now on. You can only give a player so much time. If he knuckles down, and starts putting some work in, and shows committment, then fantastic. But if this report is true, and admittedly if may well have been blown out of proportion by the tabloids, then slagging your teammates off in england just doesn't go down well and it won't make his task any easier. Believe me, I want him to succeed. But at the moment he isn't going about it the right way, and I would rather someone like Chadwick was given his chance, than someone who is 100% committed.
 

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Garrincha said:
Veron is a champion and IMHO one of the best midfielders in the world. He had a bad season, but let's look at the circumstances: Manchester had a midfield filled with capable players who had their supporters' confidence. Veron came from a different league (I really don't think EPL is 'better', it's just different) and had to adjust to a powerful team. One would think it would be easy, but sometimes adaptation isn't that fast.

Fred, I respect you views, but dismissing Veron as someone who 'did well for an Italian club' is not reasonable. This man is absolutely world-class. Give him time, and I'm positive he will deliver what the fans expect. if he doesn't, send him to Botafogo on a free and we'll be happy to have him. :D :rollani:
Well, coming from a Brazillian about an Argentinian player, you know there's some truth in it ;)
 

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To be honest I think some of the fans inside Old Trafford need to be abit more supportive. Ok he had some very bad games last year, but when he was brought off at times there were hardly any clapping for him, this will affect his confidence which seemed low most of the time.
 

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Even though I am not a fan of ManU, I still can't forget the match vs Leverkusen (2nd leg, I suppose). When all his teammates were fighting crazily in the 2nd half he was like strolling on the pitch, which is only acceptable in Serie A.

Veron isn't the first non-English player who complains about the style of English. Pires, Bergkamp and many other players had the same trouble. But they now are used to that. But look at Veron. He didn't even make an attempt to cope with that. I don't see any commitment at all in him.

This argentine guy wants to tango with Lazio. He has been dreaming for that for the whole goddamn season. Let him get what he wants.
 

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claudio said:
Even though I am not a fan of ManU, I still can't forget the match vs Leverkusen (2nd leg, I suppose). When all his teammates were fighting crazily in the 2nd half he was like strolling on the pitch, which is only acceptable in Serie A.
Well I'm beginning to believe that strolling on the pitch is Veron's style... Did you see him at the WC? He talked about how important it was to him and the ppl in Argentina several times, but he practically strolled in every match. In the last few minutes against Sweden... he STROLLED and when the coach told him to rush to take a corner he did this "easy easy, calm down" signal with his hands and took his time while his teammates were panicking and rushing... it shocked me that noone mentioned this and used this to criticize him after the defeat.
He seems like a very calm fellow who just strolls and plays economical football I guess... no matter how important the game.
 

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Veron must prove himself. Let's wipe the slate clean and say that last year he was adjusting as was the whole team to his presence. But what of this season to come? World class reputations are not gifted to players no matter how interesting or creative they may be; players have to prove themselves by maintaining a standard.

Veron has the microscope on him. He'll be watched to see whether last season he was too intoxicated by thoughts of World Cup glory which never came. He'll be watched to see how well he mixes it up in midfield and whether he's finally gained some understanding with his United teammates.

For our sake (28mm worth), I hope he has recovered from this injury or whatever. I understand his skills are more delicate than Beckham's and his leadership more subtle than Roy Keane but he must make his mark. Otherwise, another disappointing season and both his supporters and detractors will be wagering where he'll move onto next.
 
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