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Real are better than Valencia (check out the Spanish table).
Valencia are on good form and could have gone out if Man U had needed the win remember. Don't get too carried away.
Lopez is a scorer of great goals and not a great goal scorer and Illie may be back soon. I like them but saying they are the best team in it is, in my view wrong.

1) Barce
2) Bayern
3) Real Madrid , would be higher but are on appaling form.
4) Valencia (underdogs).

 

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I'm not denying that they are a superb team on their day and absolutely superb to watch but the result was more of a shock than if it had happenened the other way around and therefore my point stands about Valencia being the underdogs.
Now the tables have turned and a Valencia versus Real M final looks imminent (YESSSSS!!!)