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You know what thats fine. If Slovenia and Latvia can do it why not us? I dont have a problem with workig to finish second. I would rather see us work hard and get in and hopefully do well, then just get in and look bad.
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That is not good news for macedonia! our only chance was if we would be 3th in the group and then everything is possible in a play of game but now they have vote it dawn and and 3th place will give play of and the two best placed will go direct to the championchip..... Makedonec, slovenija and Latvia Q for play of as 2 in the gruop when they had human groups with only 5 teams in it and they tok the chance..... now with 7 teams in groups the chances will be very small for small nations to make it and that was what the bigg nations wanted and where the money are ther is the power..... the nations with money voted for 2 direct places cuz they know that they will be stronger in after 14 matches or 12 matches but if it would be that 2 and 3 in the group would have playd play of it would have been two nervous games where everything can happen and they did not want that. all would have had a small chance to rich the play of with the 3th place system and it would have been very interesting in all groups but now the chances are very slim for all small nations and not that interesting.
 

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the nations with money voted for 2 direct places cuz they know that they will be stronger in after 14 matches or 12 matches but if it would be that 2 and 3 in the group would have playd play of it would have been two nervous games where everything can happen and they did not want that.
Of course it was the big money teams asking for this and UEFA is all about the money so they were all for this, i'm just pissed off with this because when they said this could happen i didnt think it would be right away in 2008 :doh:
 

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i don't see what it will change for us. how could we be even second ? the seedings are against us anyway. we are currently in the 4th, 5th or even 6th hat when seedings are proceeded which means we'll always have several teams like France, England, Holland, germany, spain, italy, sweden, denmark and so on in our qualification group. the problem is that we have also settled a tradition of unluckiness with the seedings which can't help us neither !
 

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2nd or 3rd place it doesnt matter, with this kind of attitude, when we get beaten by Andora, we must be grateful for 5th place. Well we will see, there are still matches with Armenia ahead of us :nono:
 
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i don't see what it will change for us.!
That would have been a huge deferance for all small nations as it is possible for almost all nations today to rich the 3 place but now that chance is taken away from the small nations and in the contract with Sactrac it was writen that he have to take us to play of and 3 place and what about the contract now???????
 

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Sactrac it was writen that he have to take us to play of and 3 place and what about the contract now???????
your right now the contract doesn't mean anything :groan:
 

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I think that its good this decision, cuz in the EURO could qualify some 3rd placed nations from some grups, and some who finnished 2nd not to qualify. Here is a enxample. In a same group Danmark finnishes 2nd and Macedonia 3rd. Macedonia plays vs Israel in the play-off and wins and Denmark plays vs Nederland and losses. Nonsence!
 
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I think that its good this decision, cuz in the EURO could qualify some 3rd placed nations from some grups, and some who finnished 2nd not to qualify. Here is a enxample. In a same group Danmark finnishes 2nd and Macedonia 3rd. Macedonia plays vs Israel in the play-off and wins and Denmark plays vs Nederland and losses. Nonsence!
Nonsence or not but it would have give all small nation a bigger chance not just macedonia and that's why more interesting for all..... In a play af all can happen but best of 12 or 14 games all know that the better nations will win.............Maybe it's better for the bigg nations and the championchip as self but for the small nations is not good and 3 place play of would have give more intress to all. Now it is like it is and all have to eccept that
 

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i agree with you naum on the fact that the superpowers are protected with such rules. but what about the teams that would be 2nd ? that means that we'll probably never see or very sporadicly teams like denmark, norway, romania, serbia, croatia, belgium or russia in the international tournaments.
 
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i agree with you naum on the fact that the superpowers are protected with such rules. but what about the teams that would be 2nd ? that means that we'll probably never see or very sporadicly teams like denmark, norway, romania, serbia, croatia, belgium or russia in the international tournaments.
?????????? 1 and 2 placed in the groups will be automatic Q for the bigg tournaments and until now it was only the first whoQ automatic and the 2 Q for play of games..... The two proposition they woted for in talin Estonia was either 1 and 2 automatic Q or only the 1th placed automatic Q and the 2 and 3 placed teams to play of and you know the rusult of this voting.....
 
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