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well of course he is no ibra. he wasn't gonna lead your team to a championship. he obviously has scoring ability though, especially heading, and you never exploited that with your system, and look where your system has carried you now...

im just trying to say its a shit system and that you won 95% because of Pirlo
 

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well of course he is no ibra. he wasn't gonna lead your team to a championship. he obviously has scoring ability though, especially heading, and you never exploited that with your system, and look where your system has carried you now...

im just trying to say its a shit system and that you won 95% because of Pirlo
that shit system give us CL success.
thank you for giving us pirlo.
 

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well of course he is no ibra. he wasn't gonna lead your team to a championship. he obviously has scoring ability though, especially heading, and you never exploited that with your system, and look where your system has carried you now...

im just trying to say its a shit system and that you won 95% because of Pirlo
haha.

Of course now its easy to criticize the system.

But are you serious?

This system has worked for about 5-6 years.
 

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He scored 17 goals without a single penalty. Only Sheva has scored that much for us since Bierhoff's first season.
first season only?;) He scored half of his Milan goals in that first season. Last season Pato scored 2 more goals than him, while playing half of the season & no penalties either.
 

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The expected line-ups according to La Gazzetta dello Sport:

 

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first season only?;) He scored half of his Milan goals in that first season. Last season Pato scored 2 more goals than him, while playing half of the season & no penalties either.
It was to show what confidence and form do to a player. Also how our play didn't suit him at all. He did really well when we played with two forwards, just like our whole team. Our team form dragged him down just as much as his form dragged us down.
 

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It is the tactic. Prandelli is using the same tactic when Gilardino was playing with Parma. And no Gila didn't do that well in the league with us. Don't blame the fans for Gila's shortcomings. They supported him, but he didn't deliver with Milan. IMO a typical Parma product, all hype no results.
Right. I don't know why we should blame Milan for Gila's dismal performance. I know for certain that the club was patient with him. He was almost always in the starting line up even when he wasn't scoring, until when the Carlo and the fans couldn't take it any more. That was when the jeers started. If he couldn't adapt to our system then so bad, and in my eyes that makes him not good enough. Milan isn't certainly going to overhaul its formation just to suit Gilardino. The goals he scored last night are similar to the ones he scored for us in that friendly in russia, IIRC ; lightly marked or free headers. He's the type that only thrives in one formation. That doesn't reflect a good player.

I would be surprised if R80 isn't in the starting lineup tonight. But Kaka behind Pato and Borriello is fine.
 

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It is the tactic. Prandelli is using the same tactic when Gilardino was playing with Parma. And no Gila didn't do that well in the league with us. Don't blame the fans for Gila's shortcomings. They supported him, but he didn't deliver with Milan. IMO a typical Parma product, all hype no results.
Tactics didn't help, but the abuse this guy took was pretty huge. And yes, the first couple of seasons the guy did score in the league. I think he had 17 goals hte first year. It was the last two years where he really had a terrible time with things.
 

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Gila scored 30 league goals in first 2 seasons... more than satifactory IMO... he got abuse because Gila is not a show pony, and in Milan they love either show ponies or someone who would work his arse off... Gila is neither, he has decent technical skills, but his best asset is like Trezeguet, just waiting for the goal. At Firoentina he is suited to them as they play a system which benefits him, unlike in Milan where he was expected to be the target man, the Cruyff and the Ronaldinho all in one while Kaka and Seedorf dilly dallied around him.
 

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just look at Gila's two goals - two heads from pin-point crosses from the right. The one was from Mutu (his partner striker) the other not sure. When was the last time Milan played in that way with Gila. We play no wings, Oddo crosses were horrid and his playing partner was Pippo for most of the time. ...

now if these were Serginho's bets years, or we had a Pirlo type on the wing (in terms of long balls/crosses) ... may be he could have scored 25.
 

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just look at Gila's two goals - two heads from pin-point crosses from the right. The one was from Mutu (his partner striker) the other not sure. When was the last time Milan played in that way with Gila. We play no wings, Oddo crosses were horrid and his playing partner was Pippo for most of the time. ...
Indeed that was my point. Gila will not be a scorer or assist man of great goals. He will simply score hearders and tap ins, he will miss them too, but the likelihood is he can get in good position if his players deliver decent crosses. The other problem also is Gila can drag defenders away simply because he will always be in the box, but Milan have very few players who attack the box, even still... kaka, Ronaldinho etc. stay around the box, the only player from midfield who can attack the box is Ambrosini, but only with his head, with his feet he is useless there.
 

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I think its important that Pato start to gain more experience- plus, at some point he should be starting.
Kaka, Seedorf, and Flamini together should be awesome together
 

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Gila scored 30 league goals in first 2 seasons... more than satifactory IMO... he got abuse because Gila is not a show pony, and in Milan they love either show ponies or someone who would work his arse off... Gila is neither, he has decent technical skills, but his best asset is like Trezeguet, just waiting for the goal. At Firoentina he is suited to them as they play a system which benefits him, unlike in Milan where he was expected to be the target man, the Cruyff and the Ronaldinho all in one while Kaka and Seedorf dilly dallied around him.


Bingo!

We could easily do an ESPN's "Top Five reasons you can't Blame Gila" show. Not sure if you get that overseas, but this is perfect.
 

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Seems that Borriello don't start this match, but it's not confirmed, Sheva will play with Pato and Marco will enter on the second half...

The rest of the team is 100% confirmed...
That's not true AT ALL.

Pato and Borriello will start the match (according to La Gazzetta dello Sport).
 
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