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This is it; potentially our biggest, most important game of the season. Our season hinges on the outcome of this titanic tussle with the Gunners from London. According to my calculations (which are based on pure speculation), I predict our chances of progressing at 5-7% at best.:stress: :frownani: :hopefull: :scared: :eekani:



Make no mistake about it, I firmly believe we can overturn our first leg deficit (and so should the players, otherwise there's no point in showing up to play) but we can’t set a foot wrong; in other words we must put in a great performance, one that hasn’t been witnessed at the Stadio Delle Alpi for quite some time now. Simply put, we have to exhibit a desire to win, and play in completely opposing fashion to that which was witnessed in the first leg debacle.:thmbdown: :irritate: :dazed: :eek:



Eboue, and more importantly Cesc Fabregas are both major doubts for Arsenal at this point. What is the current status of our captain and talisman Alessandro Del Piero? Is he available and fit to start, even if it is from the bench?!



Crapello will have to outsmart and outfox Wenger, surprise him, meaning that any plans for a standard 4-4-2 with Giannicheda coming in to replace Vieira, and Mutu filling in for the suspended Craporanesi, must be shelved for now. I just wish that Crapello, that overrated stubborn mule, that filthy piece of cow dung (yes he is Mcqueen) will alter his tactical layout and play some attacking football from the onset, just this once!!! We need to score THREE Goals meaning that any plans Crapello might harbor of wrapping up the game come the 70'th minute must be obliterated. Over the last four games we have scored four times, and conceded four goals, so how we are to score three in one game without conceding a single goal is beyond me. It requires nothing short of a miracle, especially with the way we have been playing lately!! No Hoof and Hope, or Punt and Pray tactics Mr. Crapello, at least not for this game!



I would start out with a 3-4-1-2 formation with a back three comprising Thuram, Canna, and Kovac. In Midfield the attacking/defensive wingbacks should be Rambo and Balza. The DM pairing is obviously going to be Emerson and Giannicheda with Nedved in a supporting role behind our two target men, Trezeguet and Ibrahimobitch. If things are not going according to plan (which is likely to be the case) I would revert to a 4-3-1-2 formation with Mutu coming in (in place of Kovac, and Balza and Rambo moving back into defense) to occupy that free role and Nedved moving back into midfield, while also alternating with Mutu to confuse the opposition. Obviously, if Del Piero is fit then he can be the one to come in and play that role, or better yet, if possible, he should be on the field from the get-go (in place of Ibrahimobitch).



The suspensions to Zepenis, Patshit Viagra, and Craporanesi might yet prove to be a blessing in disguise, so don't despair.



We must score first, and we must score early (before the end of the first half). If Arsenal score first then it’s definitely good night and game over.:sob: :groan: :nervous:



On a more realistic note, we must also look at the prospect of facing elimination. We are notoriously poor against English opposition and have to overturn a TWO goal disadvantage into a THREE goal triumph, without conceding any goals in the process.

That is a monumental task, and I can’t recall any Juve side of recent times managing, or having to overcome such a deficit to qualify. The prospects are bleak. Last year we managed to stumble against inferior opposition (inferior to this year's Arsenal that is), and even then we only had to score ONE goal against a defense oriented outfit. We scraped by Madrid in the 2'nd round, but even then we only needed to score TWO goals, and we almost went to penalties had it not been for Zalayeta. In our highly successful (yet arguably massively disappointing) 2003 CL campaign we only needed ONE goal in the return leg of our semi-final against Real Madrid, a game which we won 3-1. However, back then we were playing much better football than the utter crap which is currently on display, although the personnel at our disposal at this moment in time is arguably marginally better.



My heart is hoping for a 3-0 or 4-1 victory (which we all recognize is almost impossible); my mind is telling me it is going to be another enthralling, exciting encounter than ends 0-0 or perhaps 1-1. :rollani: :fero: :wallbang:
 

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That was a good read. You're Egyptian aren't ya ?

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Zepenis
In Arabic his name sounds funny (and carries the same meaning as your designed nick here) without any alterations. ;) :D
 

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I'm indeed an Egyptian. That would be correct ;)

The designated name for Zebina in Arabic is Zobrina.

So, how does it feel to be a Nerazzuri supporter? It must be frustrating. One of my best friends back in Egypt is an Interisti and we always have the most heated, yet objective conversations/arguments regarding Inter, Juve, Italia, and Calcio in general.
 

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You want to play an offensive team wih three defenders and two DMs?

I mean, I like your idea of three defenders, but one DM would be enough IMO.

I think this would be better:

4-3-2-1

-----------------Buffon------------------
Balzaretti----Thuram---Cannavaro--Zambrotta---
---------------Gianichedda-------------
------Nedved-------------Emerson-----------
-----------Ibrahimovic-----ADP---------------
-----------------Trez----------------------

(having no CMs in the squad makes a big problem in these situations)

Very offensive and unbalanced, I know, but like you've said, you can't just sit and play regular tactics that are not working and wait for a miracle.
 

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I also believe the formation is the problem, having two midfielders with mostly just defensive qualities is totally uneccessary, and stupid if you want to have any chance winning next game with enough goals. Juve obviously had problems with the offence last game :thmbdown:


Buffon
Balzaretti Cannavaro Thuram Zambrotta
Emerson
Mutu Nedved
Ibrahimovic
Del Piero Trezeguet
 

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--------- Buffon

---- Balzaretti --- Thuram -- Canna -- Chiellini

- Zambrotta --- Emerson -- Gianni

----------- Nedved

---- Trez ------------ Mutu

Please bench Ibra
 

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----------------Buffon

Thuram Kovac Cannavaro Chiellini(Balzaretti)

-----------emerson
Zambrotta-------------Nedved

-------------Mutu

---------trez---------del piero
 

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we can still make it. true, our chance is slim but we're not totally out. anything can happen in football.weird things do happen in football these days. we can create miracle too. at least thats what im hoping for.. fabregas is out so this is our chance. we just need to hold them tight and keep attacking. i dont think capello will play 4-3-1-2. that just seems rare for manager like capello. he could opt to play 4-3-3, same againts madrid last year. and keep on attack and attack.
 

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I would start DP from the bench simply because I doubt he would be ready to start from straight, and who knows, this game might go to ET.

My team for you guys

----------------------------Buffon---------------------------
---------------Thuram------Cannavaro-----Kovac------------
------Zambrotta----Emerson---------Giannichedda---Chiellini-
------------------Nedved--------------Mutu-----------------
---------------------------Trezeguet-----------------------

I know it looks defensive, but really I would expect Nedved and Mutu to work hard and to create loads of chances for Trez. This way you can win the midfield too and Zambrotta and Chiellini to me are reliable. Then when you are 1-0 up after 60 you enter Del Piero! Zlatan can go crap himself for all I care here :)
 

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Of course our most important match for this season...and we should make very fast a goal.
have somebody see yesterday domenica sportiva ? moggi was there and he sayd that they are (capello and moggi) making a plan since sunday morning for the game on wednesday. with some surprises-moggi like. but if we have to win these match we should make a lot of pressure of the wings and these will be only possible if zambrotta will play as winger and not wingback together with chiellini as wingback on the same site. of course arsenal have big defenders but we have big forwards too and of course we have good shooters in our team. i think we have to make more shoots out of the 16m because Lehmann isnt a very sure keeper...i really hope nedved will play this match and bring some creativity in our game.
 

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Latest TV rumour: DP could make it to the bench :neutral:

On the match: Juve are indeed capable of winning a home match 2-0, obviously it won't be the easiest of tasks, but 2-0 ain't impossible.
 

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Bianconeri81 said:
Crapello Craporanesi, Crapello, overrated stubborn mule, that filthy piece of cow dung ,Crapello Crapello, at least not for this game![/size][/font][/left]



I Ibrahimobitch. If things are not going according to plan (which is likely to be the case)in place of Ibrahimobitch).



Zepenis, Patshit Viagra, and Craporanesi


utter crap which is currently on display


mind is telling me it is going to be another enthralling, exciting encounter than ends 0-0 or perhaps 1-1. :rollani: :fero: :wallbang:

your love and pride in this team comes shining through. :D
 

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what are the odds of us scoring one? :shades:
Obviosly Arsenal are redhot fav to go through, nevertheless, Juve could win 2-0 and take the game to overtime. 2-0 ain't impossible, even more so should Juve score early :neutral:
 

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Juve's Nedved vows to make Gunners 'sweat'

TURIN, April 3 (Champions League) - Juventus midfielder Pavel Nedved has warned Arsenal to expect a tough battle when the two teams meet in Turin on Wednesday.

More than 40,000 tickets have already been sold for the return leg of their Champions League quarter-final tie at the Delle Alpi stadium.


And having missed the opening match through suspension, Nedved is looking forward to the contest against the Gunners.

'I am ready for the return leg,' said Nedved.

'I will give everything I have to help my team win, hoping that it will be sufficient.'

Juve must turn around a 2-0 deficit in order to progress to the last four.

And the task will be all the more challenging for Fabio Capello's squad as they will have to do without former Arsenal captain Patrick Vieira, midfielder Mauro Camoranesi and defender Jonathan Zebina, who are all serving a one-match ban.

Nedved is nevertheless optimistic his side will give Arsenal a run for their money.

'Arsenal will have to sweat because Juve is a team that fights until the end,' Nedved continued.

'We believe that we can qualify and until we are eliminated we will not give up.

'The only certainty is that we cannot make any mistakes.'

Juve failed to recover from last week's slip at Highbury, having been held at the weekend to a goalless draw by bottom side Treviso in Serie A.

However, Capello's side escaped unharmed with Scudetto contenders AC Milan losing 1-0 at Lecce, a result that allowed Juve to extend their lead to nine points with six games remaining.

'We really wanted to get a win,' said former Chelsea winger Adrian Mutu.

'Unfortunately we failed to take advantage of the 15 or so goalscoring chances we created.

'We hope to improve in front of goal starting on Wednesday because we must do well against Arsenal.'

Capello will be desperate to recall striker Alessandro Del Piero, who is fighting against the clock to recover from a thigh injury sustained a week ago.


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15 chances? :eek:

what formation you guys played?
 

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I still think Ibrahimobitch should start as Del Piero will definitely be lacking match fitness, and as such not as sharp and incisive as he should be.

I know Crapello will attempt to play 4-4-2 but I strongly encourage the players to ignore his tactics and play the way they know how (if they can still remember that is). Therefore, whereas the formation might start out as 4-4-2 I would encourage Nedved and Mutu to alternate positions and attempt to take a more attacking role behind the front two, rather than go to waste on the wings, so long as they don't end up confusing themselves. We have to go for broke in this game; after all it is make or break, and we have everything to lose and nothing to gain by being overly cautious, or showing too much respect to our opponents. I hope the crowd can create an electric atmosphere :rolleyes: (how many will be in the stadium? 25,000) and spur the players on to victory.

I want Juventus to entertain, attack, and play a fast paced game knocking Arsenal out of their stride, otherwise we stand no chance. How this is going to happen, I have no idea.

We are Juve and we will not go down without a fight. :strong: :hopefull: :star:
 

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Obviosly Arsenal are redhot fav to go through, nevertheless, Juve could win 2-0 and take the game to overtime. 2-0 ain't impossible, even more so should Juve score early :neutral:

our goals are not dependent upon some dust :tongue:

even if they score 2-0 in the first 10 minutes. As long as we don't mess up our chances, we are through. We will get chances ...thats for sure ! :thumbsup:
 
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