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(1st July 2001 - 28th June 2002)

1. (1.) Real Madrid CF España/4 337,0
2. (2.) TSV Bayer 04 Leverkusen Deutschland/4 304,0
3. (3.) FC Bayern München Deutschland/4 286,0
4. (4.) Real Club Deportivo de La Coruña España/4 273,0
(6.) Liverpool FC England/4 273,0
6. (7.) Arsenal FC London England/4 271,0
7. (8.) FC Barcelona España/4 260,0
(9.) Manchester United FC England/4 260,0
9. (12.) Glasgow Rangers FC Scotland/3 250,0
10. (10.) FC Juventus Torino Italia/4 247,0
11. (14.) CF América Ciudad de México México/3 246,5
12. (13.) BV Borussia Dortmund Deutschland/4 245,0
13. (5.) Grêmio Foot-Ball Porto-Alegrense Brasil/4 244,0
14. (15.) Milan AC Italia/4 235,0
15. (16.) Parma AC Italia/4 227,0
16. (18.) Galatasaray SK Istanbul Türkiye/3 214,0
17. (17.) AS Roma Italia/4 211,0
18. (22.) Glasgow Celtic FC Scotland/3 208,0
19. (11.) CA Boca Juniors Buenos Aires Argentina/4 206,0
20. (24.) Club Brugge KV Belgique/3 205,0
21. (25.) Feyenoord Rotterdam Nederland/3 204,5
(25.) AEK Athens Greece/3 204,5
23. (20.) FC Internazionale Milano Italia/4 203,0
24. (19.) CD América Cali Colombia/3 202,5
25. (29.) Panathinaikos Athens Greece/3 198,5
26. (21.) CA San Lorenzo de Almagro Buenos Aires Argentina/4 198,0
27. (30.) Valencia CF España/4 197,0
28. (27.) CA River Plate Buenos Aires Argentina/4 196,0
29. (32.) Sporting Clube de Portugal Lisboa Portugal/3 189,0
30. (23.) SC Corinthians Paulista São Paulo Brasil/4 188,0
31. (28.) FC do Porto Portugal/3 187,5
32. (33.) AC Sparta Praha Ceská Republika/3 186,0
33. (34.) Chelsea FC London England/4 183,0
(37.) CD Universidad Católica Santiago Chile/3 183,0
35. (35.) AFC Ajax Amsterdam Nederland/3 182,5
36. (31.) Club Nacional de Football Montevideo Uruguay/3 180,0
37. (38.) CR Flamengo Rio de Janeiro Brasil/4 178,0
(38.) Hapoel Tel-Aviv Israel/2 178,0
39. (40.) PSV Eindhoven Nederland/3 174,0
40. (41.) Lille Olympique Sporting Club France/4 173,0
41. (36.) CA Peñarol Montevideo Uruguay/3 171,0
42. (42.) FC Schalke 04 Deutschland/4 170,0
43. (43.) Club Atlético Morelia México/3 169,5
44. (44.) Hertha BSC Berlin Deutschland/4 167,0
45. (45.) AD São Caetano Brasil/4 160,0
46. (46.) SK Slovan Liberec Ceská Republika/3 159,0
47. (47.) São Paulo FC Brasil/4 158,0
48. (48.) Leeds United AFC England/4 156,0
49. (54.) Santos Laguna de Torreon México/3 151,5
50. (51.) Olympique Lyonnais France/4 151,0
(51.) Paris Saint-Germain FC France/4 151,0
52. (58.) Necaxa FC Ciudad de México México/3 150,0
53. (51.) FC København Danmark/2 147,0
54. (55.) Boavista FC Porto Portugal/3 146,5
55. (49.) CA Vélez Sarsfield Argentina/4 144,0
56. (50.) Cerro Porteño FBC Asunción Paraguay/3 142,5
57. (60.) RSC Anderlecht Belgique/3 142,0
58. (56.) SS Lazio Roma Italia/4 140,0
59. (63.) Sporting Cristal Lima Perú/3 139,5
60. (56.) Club Sport Emelec Guayaquil Ecuador/2 139,0
61. (65.) Levski Sofia Bulgaria/2 133,0
62. (67.) FC Girondins de Bordeaux France/4 132,0
(67.) FC de Nantes France/4 132,0
(64.) CD Los Millonarios Bogotá Colombia/3 132,0
(67.) Newcastle United FC England/4 132,0
(61.) CD Once Caldas Manizales Colombia/3 132,0
67. (70.) Litex Lovech Bulgaria/2 131,0
68. (78.) CDC Atlético Nacional Medellín Colombia/3 130,5
(58.) Locomotive Moscow Russia/3 130,5
70. (65.) Wisla Kraków Polska/2 129,0
71. (75.) Olympiakos Pireas Greece/3 125,5
72. (78.) CS Maritimo Funchal Portugal/3 120,0
(110.) Universitario de Deportes Lima Perú/3 120,0
(93.) Cienciano del Cusco Perú/3 120,0
(73.) CA Talleres Cordoba Argentina/4 120,0
(73.) Montevideo Wanderers FC Uruguay/3 120,0
77. (80.) PAOK Saloniki Greece/3 119,0
(77.) Brøndby IF Danmark/2 119,0
79. (82.) Grasshopper-Club Zürich Schweiz/2 118,5
80. (86.) Clube Atletico Paranaense Curitiba Brasil/4 116,0
(62.) Real Club Celta de Vigo España/4 116,0
(76.) Real Club Deportivo Mallorca España/4 116,0
83. (93.) Santiago Wanderers Valparaíso Chile/3 115,5
84. (89.) Roda JC Kerkrade Nederland/3 115,0
(89.) NK Dinamo Zagreb Croatia/2 115,0
86. (91.) Athletic Club de Bilbao España/4 114,0
(117.) CSD Municipal Guatemala City Guatemala/2 114,0
88. (92.) FC Utrecht Nederland/3 113,0
89. (95.) Standard de Liège Belgique/3 112,0
(84.) Brescia Calcio Italia/4 112,0
(80.) Maccabi Tel-Aviv Israel/2 112,0
(95.) CR Vasco da Gama Rio de Janeiro Brasil/4 112,0
(95.) AC Troyes France/4 112,0
(95.) Sporting Club Bastia France/4 112,0
95. (123.) Club Alianza Lima Perú/3 111,0
(110.) CD Cobreloa Calama Chile/3 111,0
(102.) Lorient FC France/4 111,0
(102.) Aston Villa FC England/4 111,0
(71.) National SC Cairo Egypt/2 111,0
(87.) FC Olimpia Asunción Paraguay/3 111,0
101. (106.) SK Slavia Praha Ceská Republika/3 110,5
(101.) FK Partizan Beograd Jugoslavija/2 110,5
103. (110.) Dynamo Kiev Ukraina/2 110,0
(107.) NK Vartoks Varazdin Croatia/2 110,0
(107.) Legia Warszawa Polska/2 110,0
(85.) Servette FC Geneve Schweiz/2 110,0
107. (87.) CSKA Moscow Russia/3 109,5
108. (116.) FK Crvena zvezda Beograd Jugoslavija/2 108,5
109. (110.) CSKA Sofia Bulgaria/2 108,0
110. (109.) Maccabi Haifa Israel/2 106,5
111. (115.) Ipswich Town FC England/4 106,0
112. (134.) ASEC Mimosas Abidjan Côte-d'Ivoire/2 105,5
113. (117.) 1.FC Kaiserslautern Deutschland/4 105,0
(102.) Club El Nacional Quito Ecuador/2 105,0
(136.) CSD Colo Colo Santiago Chile/3 105,0
(114.) Asociación Deportivo Cali Colombia/3 105,0
117. (119.) Fulham FC England/4 104,0
(119.) Nasaf Karchi Uzbekistan/2 104,0
(119.) CA Mineiro Belo Horizonte Brasil/4 104,0
(119.) SE Gama Brasilia Brasil/4 104,0
(95.) CA Independiente Avellaneda Argentina/4 104,0
(146.) Shakhtjor Donetsk Ukraina/2 104,0
123. (125.) CS Sedan France/4 103,0
124. (127.) Middlesbrough FC England/4 102,0
(127.) Besiktas SK Istanbul Türkiye/3 102,0
(95.) Racing Club Avellaneda Argentina/4 102,0
127. (129.) CD Saprissa San Juan de Tibás San José Costa Rica/2 101,0
128. (131.) AŠK International Bratislava Slovensko/2 100,5
129. (125.) Bolívar La Paz Bolivia/2 100,0
(135.) Vikings FK Stavanger Norge/2 100,0
131. (163.) Asante Kotoko Kumasi Ghana/2 99,0
132. (123.) Zenit St. Petersburg Russia/3 97,5
(136.) Grazer AK Österreich/2 97,5
(139.) Independiente Santa Fe CD Bogotá Colombia/3 97,5
135. (197.) Zamalek SC Cairo Egypt/2 97,0
(138.) SC Freiburg Deutschland/4 97,0
137. (139.) Fluminense FC Rio de Janeiro Brasil/4 96,0
138. (144.) Kocaelispor Kocaeli Türkiye/3 94,5
(144.) Fenerbaçe SK Istanbul Türkiye/3 94,5
140. (146.) Racing Club de Lens France/4 94,0
(143.) Suwon Samsung Blue-Wings Korea (S)/2 94,0
142. (150.) FC Tirol Innsbruck Österreich/2 93,0
(82.) Espérance Sportive de Tunis Tunesia/2 93,0
144. (132.) Club de Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata Argentina/4 92,0
(173.) SC Rapid Bucaresti România/2 92,0
146. (152.) Excelsior Mouscron Belgique/3 91,5
147. (181.) CSD Comunicaciones Guatemala City Guatemala/2 91,0
(155.) Liga Deportiva Alajuelense Alajuela Costa Rica/2 91,0
(72.) Real Zaragoza CD España/4 91,0
150. (156.) Tottenham Hotspur FC England/4 90,0
(139.) EC Cruzeiro Belo Horizonte Brasil/4 90,0
(146.) Asociacion Deportiva Rayo Vallecano España/4 90,0
(156.) NK Hajduk Split Croatia/2 90,0
(156.) FC Twente Enschede Nederland/3 90,0
155. (162.) Gaziantepspor Gaziantep Türkiye/3 89,5
156. (163.) Kilmarnock FC Scotland/3 89,0
(163.) Olympique de Marseille France/4 89,0
(167.) MSK SCP Ruzomberok Slovensko/2 89,0
159. (152.) Dinamo Bucuresti România/2 88,5
(166.) RC Genk Belgique/3 88,5
161. (167.) Sevilla Betis Balompié España/4 88,0
(156.) Real Valladolid Deportivo España/4 88,0
163. (171.) Steaua Bucuresti România/2 87,5
164. (172.) AS de Monaco France/4 87,0
(139.) Dalian Shide China/2 87,0
166. (173.) Esporte Clube Bahia Salvador Brasil/4 86,0
(173.) AJ Auxerroise France/4 86,0
(197.) Pakhtakor Tashkent Uzbekistan/2 86,0
169. (156.) CD Independiente Medellín Colombia/3 85,5
170. (181.) Al-Hilal FC Riyadh Saudi Arabia/2 85,0
(173.) Jeunesse Sportive de Kabylie, Tizi Ouzou Algeria/2 85,0
(150.) Kaizer Chiefs Johannesburg South Africa/2 85,0
(181.) FC St. Gallen Schweiz/2 85,0
174. (186.) SC Lokeren Belgique/3 84,0
(212.) CD Universidad de Chile Santiago Chile/3 84,0
(173.) Anyang LG Cheetahs FC Korea (S)/2 84,0
(173.) CA Colon de Santa Fe Argentina/4 84,0
(186.) Atalanta Bergamasca Calcio Italia/4 84,0
(181.) Police Club (Al Shorta) Baghdad Iraq/2 84,0
(167.) Málaga CF España/4 84,0
(194.) Envigado FC Colombia/3 84,0
182. (190.) VfB Stuttgart Deutschland/4 83,0
183. (190.) Slovan Bratislava Slovensko/2 82,0
(132.) SE Palmeiras São Paulo Brasil/4 82,0
(173.) Villarreal CF España/4 82,0
186. (205.) Fovu Baham Cameroun/2 81,5
187. (203.) SK Rapid Wien Österreich/2 81,0
188. (206.) Al Talaba Iraq/2 80,0
(206.) Chievo Verona Italia/4 80,0
(217.) Neftchi Fergana Uzbekistan/2 80,0
(173.) CA Estudiantes de La Plata Argentina/4 80,0
(206.) Everton FC England/4 80,0
193. (212.) FC Basel Schweiz/2 79,5
(186.) Corporación Deportivo Tuluá Colombia/3 79,5
(212.) VV St. Truiden Belgique/3 79,5
(212.) Club Deportivo Toluca México/3 79,5
(233.) Matador Puchov Slovensko/2 79,5
(212.) Universitario de Nuevo León Monterrey México/3 79,5
(194.) Club Deportivo Pasto Colombia/3 79,5
200. (197.) Oriente Petrolero Santa Cruz Bolivia/2 79,0
(190.) Mamelodi Sundowns Pretoria South Africa/2 79,0
(235.) Rosenborg BK Trondheim Norge/2 79,0
(217.) TSV München 1860 Deutschland/4 79,0
(203.) Kashima Antlers FC Japan/2 79,0
(181.) Halmstads BK Sverige/2 79,0
206. (220.) Pachuca CF México/3 78,5
207. (156.) Danubio Football Club Montevideo Uruguay/3 78,0
(197.) Al-Kuwait SC Kaifan Kuwait/2 78,0
(129.) Hit Nova Gorica Slowenien/2 78,0
(222.) Denizlispor Türkiye/3 78,0
(222.) SV Werder Bremen Deutschland/4 78,0
(194.) Saturn Ramenskoe Russia/3 78,0
213. (254.) Esteghlal Teheran Iran/2 77,0
(190.) Deportivo Olmedo Rio Bamba Ecuador/2 77,0
215. (186.) Spartak Moscow Russia/3 76,5
(235.) Alianza Atletico Sullana Perú/3 76,5
(220.) Shimizu FC S-Pulse Japan/2 76,5
(227.) SC Heerenveen Nederland/3 76,5
219. (197.) CA Lanús Argentina/4 76,0
(206.) Barcelona Sporting Club Guayaquil Ecuador/2 76,0
(229.) Paraná Clube Curitiba Brasil/4 76,0
(167.) SK Viktoria Zizkov Ceská Republika/3 76,0
(146.) AC Fiorentina Firenze Italia/4 76,0
(206.) Udinese Calcio Italia/4 76,0
(229.) West Ham United FC England/4 76,0
226. (239.) Club Deportivo Alavés España/4 74,0
(152.) Etoile Sportive du Sahel Tunesia/2 74,0
(206.) CA Newell's Old Boys Rosario Argentina/4 74,0
229. (242.) 12. Octubre Itaguca Paraguay/3 73,5
230. (245.) Club Deportivo Guadalajara México/3 73,0
231. (233.) FK Obilic Jugoslavija/2 72,5
232. (239.) Deportivo Italchacao FC Caracas Venezuela/2 72,0
(248.) Sevilla FC España/4 72,0
(217.) Helsingborg IF Sverige/2 72,0
(197.) CA Chacarita Juniors San Martín Argentina/4 72,0
(248.) FC Marlia Pribam Ceská Republika/3 72,0
237. (245.) Air Force (Al Joueia) Baghdad Iraq/2 71,0
(268.) HJK Helsinki Suomi/2 71,0
(235.) Valkeakosken Haka Suomi/2 71,0
240. (257.) Aberdeen FC Scotland/3 70,5
(260.) Estudiantes de Medicina Ica Perú/3 70,5
242. (282.) CA Nuevo Chicago Buenos Aires Argentina/4 70,0
(229.) FC Dunaferr Dunaújváros Magyarország/2 70,0
(248.) Bologna Calcio Italia/4 70,0
(282.) Africa Sports Nationale Abidjan Côte-d'Ivoire/2 70,0
246. (102.) CD Cruz Azul Ciudad de México México/3 69,0
(260.) Skoda AO Xanthi Greece/3 69,0
(312.) CD Palestino Santiago Chile/3 69,0
(260.) NK Osijek Croatia/2 69,0
(227.) Dynamo Moscow Russia/3 69,0
(226.) Widad AC Casablanca Maroc/2 69,0
(260.) Sport Lisboa e Benfica Portugal/3 69,0
(260.) SK Sturm Graz Österreich/2 69,0


What a List .... Is your Fav Team in here ?????

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How the Club World Ranking is made

The World Club Ranking was started monthly since January 1st, 1991 and the information is globally distributed early in the following month. This ranking takes into consideration the results of twelve months of continental and intercontinental competitions, national league matches (including play-offs) and the national cup. In those countries having several national cup competitions, only the one organised by the national federation is included. Since the cup competition systems are diverse at the preliminary stage level, we assign only the points won in eight-finals, quarter-finals, semi-finals and the final. The points are assigned based upon a rating system of the level of performance of each national league. In the case of matches decided by penalty-kicks, each team receives half of the points in contention.
All national leagues are rated at four levels based upon performance. In this grouping, each country (where the club plays) is assigned a number indicating the performance level of each national league. Clubs in the highest level leagues receive 4 points for each match won, 2 for a draw and 0 for a defeat. Level 2 is assigned 3 pts. (win), 1.5 (draw) and 0 (lost), and so on with the next lower levels. The same system applies for the play-off matches.

In the continental competitions, all clubs receive the same number of points at all stages regardless of the performance level of their leagues. In the case of draws each team receives 50% of the points in dispute and 0 points for a lost match. The points are distributed equally to teams in matches decided by penalty-kicks. All Asia, Africa and CONCACAF continental competitions have the same point-assignment system: 8 points for a win, 4 for a draw; in the preliminary tournament phases for The Caribbean and Oceania zones, only 4 and 2 points are assigned for win and draw. In the South American competitions the clubs receive 12 points for a win, 6 for a draw; and in the European 14 and 7 points, respectively. Competitions between two continents are evaluated depending upon their importance. In the FIFA World Club Cup, the awarding system for wins and draws is determined by averaging the number of points assigned for wins and draws in each of the other continental competitions.

Those competitions not organized by a continental confederation, or any intercontinental events not recognized by FIFA, are not taken into consideration for the World Club Ranking. Any competition cancelled before completion alters the point system. In order to equalise the chances of South American and European clubs we do not consider the result of previous matches already played in said tournament.

The World Club Ranking is a precise classification showing the real level of the clubs free of any subjective influence. It is the result of a profound analysis that allows us to fairly report the level of international performance for each country.

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How is it possible that Parma is 15th in the World!!!! They just won the Italian Cup and avoided relegation 180 minutes before the end of the last season. They were soon eliminated in the European competitions: preliminary of CL and UEFA.... They come before Roma, just 18th (2nd in Serie A and 2nd Round of CL), Inter (3rd in Serie A and semifinals of UEFA).
And Glasgow Rangers did better than Juventus and Dortmund?
Feyenoord just 21st? Then winning a UEFA cup means nothing!

This ranking is STUPIDISSIMOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Pure MERDA!!!!!

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Good question, and that's why I posted their views also on "how they attain" the figures they have posted here.
Also bear in mind these are TWELVE months averaged out ..Not just what happened in the last 45 to 60 days !!!

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colocolo said:
Also bear in mind these are TWELVE months averaged out ..Not just what happened in the last 45 to 60 days !!!

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I know and I also know the results of Parma in the last 12 months:

Serie A 10th 12 successes 8 draws 14 defeats 44 points (Juventus won serie A with 71 points, Verona was relegated with 39 points)

CL (Preliminary Round) Parma - Lille 0-2 1-0 eliminated

UEFA Parma - HJK 1-0 2-0
Utrecht - Parma 1-3 0-0
Parma-Brondby 1-1 3-0
Hapoel TA - Parma 0-0 2-1 eliminated

ITALIAN CUP Messina (serie B) - Parma 0-2 2-1
Udinese - Parma 1-1 0-0
Parma - Brescia 2-0 1-2
Juventus - Parma 2-1 0-1 win the cup


So: in Serie A Parma avoided relegation for 5 points.
In CL was eliminated by Lille (40. in the IFFHS ranking)
In UEFA won against HJK (237. in the ranking), Utrecht (88.), Brondby (77.) and was eliminated by Hapoel TA (37.)
As regards the Italian Cup the best teams don't care so much about it.

Roma and Inter did not win the Italian Cup (their last thought...), but in Serie A they had 31 and 30 points respectively more than Parma.
Roma was eliminated in the 2nd round of CL by Liverpool (4. in the ranking) and Barcelona (7.) and against Barcelona Roma results were 3-0 and 1-1.
Inter in CL was eliminated in the semifinal by the winner of UEFA Cup (Feyenoord, incredibly 21st in the ranking!!!) and won against Valencia (winner of Liga but just 27th in the ranking!!!!) in the QF (1-1 1-0).

So I can hardly find something intelligent in this ranking were the Italian Cup success is better than UEFA Cup, Liga, Bundesliga successes.... in my opinion it's TOTAL S*H*I*T and IFFHS should shame on themselves to show this kind of statistics built on cerebral masturbations.
 

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The system that the IFFHS uses is pathetic - I've always hated it.

Liverpool in 6th, but Arsenal in 7th?
Parma in 15th, but Inter in 23rd?
Valencia in 27th?

The reason behind this is the points system over-riding basic interpretations.

How can Liverpool be better than Arsenal and Man Utd? They finished 7 points below Arsenal in the EPL, and were eliminated before Man Utd in the CL.

How can Parma be better than Inter and Roma? They just avoided relegation, and were eliminated early on in the CL and UEFA Cup. Inter finished 3rd, and were only eliminated from the UEFA Cup by an OG. Roma finished 2nd, and were only eliminated from the CL 2nd Group Stage by the final result.

I won't even comment on Valencia's position.
 

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I can kinda understand Liverpool being above Man U and Arsenal. We finished below Arsenal but did better in the CL. We finished above Man U in the PL and only did slightly worse in the CL. But i suppose Arsenal should be above as they won the FA Cup. I can't believe Parma are above Juve and what about Rangers being above Celtic?!!!
 

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Today I wrote to IFFHS, their answer was:

Dear Sir ,

At first you should read all our informations about the determination
of the Club World Ranking on different pages in our web site.

Second you should registere all results of the last 12 months in the
national and international competitions - and not a table place. Each
individual result is important! For example in UEFA Cup, it is a great
difference, if the club won both matches or came only by means of the
away-goal-rules in the next round.

Third you should try free of subjective influences logical all think
over. Following you will recognize that all is correct. There are no
errors ! We work not with simple methods, but with football logic and
take into consideration all things!

Regards
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All things..... well, I would like to know what these things are!
In my opinion TOTAL S*H*I*T
 
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