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But we are the centre of the universe
Ottawa may be the capital, but T.O. makes the decisions.
BUt all kidding aside, Marcoa, I've been to Montreal and the night life is nothing compared to here. It's a good place to go when you're 18 because of the drinking age, but other than that, the clubs are kind of cheesy. Old Montreal is very nice though.
Ottawa may be the capital, but T.O. makes the decisions.
BUt all kidding aside, Marcoa, I've been to Montreal and the night life is nothing compared to here. It's a good place to go when you're 18 because of the drinking age, but other than that, the clubs are kind of cheesy. Old Montreal is very nice though.
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I don't know, I guess you guys don't know the T.O. that I know. I've had a blast in T.O. and still do. There's so much to do, and there's a new night club opening every week, so you can't get bored.
I don't care much for the "French Canadians". I find a lot of them to be very arrogant and rude, once they find out you're not a "Quebecois".
I remember going to a cafe there, and the person working the counter spoke French to me. I told her I didn't speak it. I had to come up again, and even though we were the only people in there at the time, she spoke French to me again, knowing full well I didn't speak it. That was no accident.
But I do have the benefit of speaking Croatian, so I responded to her in my native tongue the second time. She seemed pretty annoyed by it, but I don't think she got the point.
But that comment about the night life not being matched anywhere in north america, come on, have you ever been to New York?
T.O. may have the "centre of the universe" attitude. But at least we know who are. We aren't posers. How pathetic a scene was it in 98 when all the French flags were out in Montreal and Quebec City. While I'm sure there was a lot of "real" French there, there was just as many wannabees. How pathetic is it to celebrate another country's success, as if it was your own(and they probably do think it was their own).
It's people like this that give a black eye to an otherwise beautiful city.
I don't care much for the "French Canadians". I find a lot of them to be very arrogant and rude, once they find out you're not a "Quebecois".
I remember going to a cafe there, and the person working the counter spoke French to me. I told her I didn't speak it. I had to come up again, and even though we were the only people in there at the time, she spoke French to me again, knowing full well I didn't speak it. That was no accident.
But I do have the benefit of speaking Croatian, so I responded to her in my native tongue the second time. She seemed pretty annoyed by it, but I don't think she got the point.
But that comment about the night life not being matched anywhere in north america, come on, have you ever been to New York?
T.O. may have the "centre of the universe" attitude. But at least we know who are. We aren't posers. How pathetic a scene was it in 98 when all the French flags were out in Montreal and Quebec City. While I'm sure there was a lot of "real" French there, there was just as many wannabees. How pathetic is it to celebrate another country's success, as if it was your own(and they probably do think it was their own).
It's people like this that give a black eye to an otherwise beautiful city.
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You have to remember something about the bi-lingualism. On a federal level, yes Canada is bi-lingual, but not on a provincial level. There's only one province that is officially bi-lingual, I'm not sure which one, but it's one of the maritime provinces, possibly New Brunswick. There's no reason why Canada as a whole should be bi-lingual. Quebec can have French as an official language, but why should that be the case with the rest of us? I was forced to learn French in high school and in elementary school. Why should I know it? It should be my choice, don't you think? It's always good to know more languages, and I didn't have a problem with learning the language, but I didn't have a choice in the matter, and I certainly should have.
As for your hockey story, sure you'll come across ignorant people, I don't dispute that. IMO the average "born and bred Canadian" is pretty damn ignorant. The only people worse are the Americans(and they are much worse). Being a team from Quebec, they obviously just assumed you were "French Canadians". The reaction you got is a result of the sensitive issues we face in this country.
The problem is that word "French Canadian" Now if you're a Frenchman who now lives in Canada, yes you are a French Canadian, but if you "just live" in Quebec you are CANADIAN and nothing else. You may be a "French speaking" Canadian, but you are certainly not a French Canadian.(keep in mind I'm not saying "you" as in Marcoa, it's just hypothetically speaking).
This is the reason that "Quebecois" aren't greeted with friendly smiles, instead are subject to a sort of "abuse", which they brought upon themselves. Another reason for this abuse is the fact that the official opposition on the federal level was a separatist party. How's that for a slap in the face and spitting on the flag so to speak?
Tell me what could the Quebecois possibly have against English speaking Canada. Is it the fact that we don't care to learn French? If so that's arrogance. Remember the "FLQ crisis"? Remember that idiot French president who came over and said "Vive le Quebec libre"? And that sea of idiot French wannabes cheering him on. How do you expect "English Canada" to respond to these things. When we see a bunch of idiots like Parizeau and Bouchard who want to take Quebec away from Canada? Those idiots would have referendums until they got a 50.00000000000001 vote in favour of independance, and then they'd do it, even though 49.9999999999 want to stay in Canada. To top it off they say they'll keep the Canadian dollar(another sign of pure arrogance).
An interesting fact: There are more Chinese speaking people in Canada than there are French speaking people. So they also have a claim to making Canada officially multi-lingual. The Quebecois would a hissy fit if they were forced to learn Chinese.
I think the "Quebecois" have given the rest of us in Canada plenty of reasons to dislike them. The worst thing about it is(and you may think this is an example of "centre of the universe" thinking) but the worst thing about it is that they are so dependant on us. Canada can do without Quebec, but Quebec can't do without Canada. They'd either join the STates, or try to join to the EU. But when they try to do that, the Indians won't let them take all of Quebec, because they're smart enough to know what Parizeau and Bouchard don't know, since they're blinded by their "nationalism" even though they have no "nation".
Maybe I'm getting a little bit carried away, but please keep in mind this is not directed at you personally.
As for your hockey story, sure you'll come across ignorant people, I don't dispute that. IMO the average "born and bred Canadian" is pretty damn ignorant. The only people worse are the Americans(and they are much worse). Being a team from Quebec, they obviously just assumed you were "French Canadians". The reaction you got is a result of the sensitive issues we face in this country.
The problem is that word "French Canadian" Now if you're a Frenchman who now lives in Canada, yes you are a French Canadian, but if you "just live" in Quebec you are CANADIAN and nothing else. You may be a "French speaking" Canadian, but you are certainly not a French Canadian.(keep in mind I'm not saying "you" as in Marcoa, it's just hypothetically speaking).
This is the reason that "Quebecois" aren't greeted with friendly smiles, instead are subject to a sort of "abuse", which they brought upon themselves. Another reason for this abuse is the fact that the official opposition on the federal level was a separatist party. How's that for a slap in the face and spitting on the flag so to speak?
Tell me what could the Quebecois possibly have against English speaking Canada. Is it the fact that we don't care to learn French? If so that's arrogance. Remember the "FLQ crisis"? Remember that idiot French president who came over and said "Vive le Quebec libre"? And that sea of idiot French wannabes cheering him on. How do you expect "English Canada" to respond to these things. When we see a bunch of idiots like Parizeau and Bouchard who want to take Quebec away from Canada? Those idiots would have referendums until they got a 50.00000000000001 vote in favour of independance, and then they'd do it, even though 49.9999999999 want to stay in Canada. To top it off they say they'll keep the Canadian dollar(another sign of pure arrogance).
An interesting fact: There are more Chinese speaking people in Canada than there are French speaking people. So they also have a claim to making Canada officially multi-lingual. The Quebecois would a hissy fit if they were forced to learn Chinese.
I think the "Quebecois" have given the rest of us in Canada plenty of reasons to dislike them. The worst thing about it is(and you may think this is an example of "centre of the universe" thinking) but the worst thing about it is that they are so dependant on us. Canada can do without Quebec, but Quebec can't do without Canada. They'd either join the STates, or try to join to the EU. But when they try to do that, the Indians won't let them take all of Quebec, because they're smart enough to know what Parizeau and Bouchard don't know, since they're blinded by their "nationalism" even though they have no "nation".
Maybe I'm getting a little bit carried away, but please keep in mind this is not directed at you personally.
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I don't think the problem will ever be solved. It might die down at times, but it will always resurface. I don't hate Quebecers, it's just that some things rub me the wrong way(the things I talked about).
But that being said, I'm an immigrant (or D.P.D)) myself, so it's not that big of a deal to me either. But I do follow politics quite a bit, so I have an opinion on a lot of things that don't necessarily mean much to me.
Look at the bright side, the relationship isn't that good, but it could be much worse.
But that being said, I'm an immigrant (or D.P.D)) myself, so it's not that big of a deal to me either. But I do follow politics quite a bit, so I have an opinion on a lot of things that don't necessarily mean much to me.
Look at the bright side, the relationship isn't that good, but it could be much worse.
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The big E would be a big mistake by the leafs. I really don't think he'll play much longer. NO matter how much he loves the game, how many concussions can you suffer before you say enough is enough, my health is more important?
He really got nailed by Stevens in the playoffs didn't he? That one should make it to the next "rock em' sock em' hockey"
He really got nailed by Stevens in the playoffs didn't he? That one should make it to the next "rock em' sock em' hockey"
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Come on Marcoa, you can't say he isn't skilled. Like EclipsE said, he does get a lot of points. He's a big guy so he plays physical as well, but it doesn't really make him a goon.
You may not like the guy, but at least give him some credit.
You may not like the guy, but at least give him some credit.
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I don't think the typical canadian thinks TO is the capital of hockey here. To me it's Montreal. They have the most storied history, and have had more of the "greats" play there.
But I agree Cherry is a big racist. It's funny how even though he is a racist, CBC of all stations will keep him on. Even they want ratings, and Cherry does bring in ratings, despite his questionable views on foreigners.
Cherry must have taken some pretty bad beatings in his time.
But I agree Cherry is a big racist. It's funny how even though he is a racist, CBC of all stations will keep him on. Even they want ratings, and Cherry does bring in ratings, despite his questionable views on foreigners.
Cherry must have taken some pretty bad beatings in his time.
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Very well said EclipsE. It seems like the million dollar question.
With all these immigrants who are fanatical about football, we just can't see to get a good team. Oh well, maybe we're just stuck with hockey being the number 1 sport here for eternity
With all these immigrants who are fanatical about football, we just can't see to get a good team. Oh well, maybe we're just stuck with hockey being the number 1 sport here for eternity
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Marcoa said:
That's one problem we have here. When we get a good talent, what's to say we won't lose em to a different country. If you look at the immigrants we have, I'm sure most of them would play for their birth country if they could, I know I would.
Then you have the children of immigrants who are sort of in the same boat. A Croatian kid born in Canada is automatically a Croatian citizen because of his parents. The HNS(Croatian football fed) has 2 scouts here in southern Ontario. Any Croatian kid who is has potential, will be convinced not to play for Canada, to try and make the Cro team. I know, because I know the scouts, and I know exactly what they'll do.
I'm sure this is the case with other ethnic groups here, so we can lose players.
Jebiga, that's life.
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