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Eight players from their own academy in their starting line up against Valencia. :thumbsup:

Valdes, Alves, Gerard, Milito, Maxwell, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pedro, Bojan

And they are also the most successful, entertaining and effective club on Earth.

Morale: growing your own players does pay off even when you're one of the richest clubs on the planet. Maybe clubs like Inter and Real Madrid can learn a thing or two from this.
 

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true,

AC Milan should also consider playing people like Paloschi instead of buying pato........ or fat Ron <- 2 of em.

playing abate at his attacking postion than using milan-lab-treated beckham. See what happened.
 

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Its not too late. It never is

http://xtratime.org/forum/showthread.php?t=242343

Embrace The Shining Light of World Football - The Very Art of Arts, The Peoples Movement. We all represent football. And we do so best while embracing the Barcelonisme. Its not too late, pay your Homage to Catalunya just as Eric Arthur Blair and countless others did.

And yea I guess 8 is a good number of starters, did even Ajax come up with that? What about River/Boca/random brazuca club.
 

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Eight players from their own academy in their starting line up against Valencia. :thumbsup:

Valdes, Alves, Gerard, Milito, Maxwell, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pedro, Bojan

And they are also the most successful, entertaining and effective club on Earth.

Morale: growing your own players does pay off even when you're one of the richest clubs on the planet. Maybe clubs like Inter and Real Madrid can learn a thing or two from this.
exactly there own academy unlike almost all English clubs.
 

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Eight players from their own academy in their starting line up against Valencia. :thumbsup:

Valdes, Alves, Gerard, Milito, Maxwell, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pedro, Bojan

And they are also the most successful, entertaining and effective club on Earth.

Morale: growing your own players does pay off even when you're one of the richest clubs on the planet. Maybe clubs like Inter and Real Madrid can learn a thing or two from this.
You have to think deeper than that, it's a silly logic if you don't.

What Barca is doing with their youth system is commendable, no one doubts that. But they are having a freak generation if you ask me. When was the last time you saw players of Messi, Xavi and Iniesta's calibre out of the youth system? It hasn't happened before and it might not happen again for an elongated amount of time. They have it now, and they did a great job of grooming these players so of course they'll be used, but only a few seasons ago their team was filled with Dutch and Brazilian players.

With Real Madrid, we also had a time not too long ago where we Raul, Casillas, Guti, Portillo, Cambiasso on the field. The first three were rare breeds and the first two are legends. However it's not that often where teams produce superstars; it clearly doesn't happen every generation. Right now, we have players like Parejo, Negredo, Soldado, and Granero. Granero was the only one who was good enough to have a role off the bench. The others are struggling abit. De La Red was good enough to not buy Xabi Alonso even, but his heart condition is unfortunate:(.

So it's only logical that we buy players from elsewhere in order to compete. It looks beautiful when your canterano's are doing well and winning you titles. But if your team is not in that odd generation of superstar production; why would you not buy better players?
 

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Out of that list only Messi is worth it...
 

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ANother key here is BArca has a way of playing and it is taught from the early years and it is the same way the senior team plays so they grow up learning how to fit into the system. I am not sure about other youth teams. I think ManU does similar, but Milan seem to play in whatever way the senior level coach likes and it varies from manager to manager. I d not think the primavera play in any system that reflects or prepares for teh senior level; they just learn skills and team play and so on. Just a thought since there has to be somethign more to it than money. Barca youth are ready to play senior ball. They don't have to learn it like most other teams youth do.
 

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So it's only logical that we buy players from elsewhere in order to compete. It looks beautiful when your canterano's are doing well and winning you titles. But if your team is not in that odd generation of superstar production; why would you not buy better players?
You bring up a valid argument except that it becomes invalid when one thinks of who is the president of Madrid. Florentino doesn't believe in growing players, even with the pressure of Valdano, who does believe in growing them, Floro does nothing to correct that.

Florentino is about the marketing aspect, he wants the biggest names to wear the Madrid shirt and buying them for extraordinary fees is what also makes them great in the eyes of the media. Never can a player be a great marketing tool if he is homegrown.

Michel said it best when he quit the Madrid youth director's job. He complained that the President (both Calderon and Floro) had never even come to ask him about players.
 

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You have to think deeper than that, it's a silly logic if you don't.

What Barca is doing with their youth system is commendable, no one doubts that. But they are having a freak generation if you ask me. When was the last time you saw players of Messi, Xavi and Iniesta's calibre out of the youth system? It hasn't happened before and it might not happen again for an elongated amount of time. They have it now, and they did a great job of grooming these players so of course they'll be used, but only a few seasons ago their team was filled with Dutch and Brazilian players.

With Real Madrid, we also had a time not too long ago where we Raul, Casillas, Guti, Portillo, Cambiasso on the field. The first three were rare breeds and the first two are legends. However it's not that often where teams produce superstars; it clearly doesn't happen every generation. Right now, we have players like Parejo, Negredo, Soldado, and Granero. Granero was the only one who was good enough to have a role off the bench. The others are struggling abit. De La Red was good enough to not buy Xabi Alonso even, but his heart condition is unfortunate:(.

So it's only logical that we buy players from elsewhere in order to compete. It looks beautiful when your canterano's are doing well and winning you titles. But if your team is not in that odd generation of superstar production; why would you not buy better players?
You really are stretching the word generation here. But the thing is that while players like Xavi, Iniesta, Messi dont come around too often, the starting list against Valencia is spectacular due to the amount of players. And for example comparing it to Real - your cantera has produced a good number of players but you never give them the chance. Prime example maybe being Arbeloa who was shipped off but as it turns out he does have what it takes. Mata preferred to change clubs. Negredo has been treated like shit and never given a chance. You actually have players but Real opts not to use them.

There was no reason why Barca should have tried luck with Busquets and tbh we could find a player similar to his qualities pretty easily but the club still sticked with him. And still achieved success.
 

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You have to think deeper than that, it's a silly logic if you don't.

What Barca is doing with their youth system is commendable, no one doubts that. But they are having a freak generation if you ask me. When was the last time you saw players of Messi, Xavi and Iniesta's calibre out of the youth system? It hasn't happened before and it might not happen again for an elongated amount of time. They have it now, and they did a great job of grooming these players so of course they'll be used, but only a few seasons ago their team was filled with Dutch and Brazilian players.

With Real Madrid, we also had a time not too long ago where we Raul, Casillas, Guti, Portillo, Cambiasso on the field. The first three were rare breeds and the first two are legends. However it's not that often where teams produce superstars; it clearly doesn't happen every generation. Right now, we have players like Parejo, Negredo, Soldado, and Granero. Granero was the only one who was good enough to have a role off the bench. The others are struggling abit. De La Red was good enough to not buy Xabi Alonso even, but his heart condition is unfortunate:(.

So it's only logical that we buy players from elsewhere in order to compete. It looks beautiful when your canterano's are doing well and winning you titles. But if your team is not in that odd generation of superstar production; why would you not buy better players?
http://www.airfutbol.com/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2373&Itemid=189

Pedro Sarabia, who is arguably your most talented player in the youth-teams looks set to leave because your club doesn't give a shit about him.

Maybe he won't be good enough for the first team, but how can you know if he's not even given a chance?

I am convinced that if Casillas, Raul and Guti came up when Perez was president they would have left the club long ago in search of playing time.
 

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When was the last time a home grown player was given a proper chance by Madrid? And by proper, I mean given time and patience to make the normal mistakes. Pavon?
 

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Real don't raise youngsters, they farm them out to Getafe with a buy back fee.
They play for a year or two at Getafe and if they impress they get bought. Does this mean we dont play a part in raising them? Beckham went on loan before he became a regular first teamer at Utd and Jack Wiltshire is doing the same right now. I know its slightly different but to say Madrid doesnt raise these players is incorrect.
 

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Michel said it best when he quit the Madrid youth director's job. He complained that the President (both Calderon and Floro) had never even come to ask him about players.
Because those guys really care only about big-name players, and of course youngsters aren't big name players. Another problem is stability. Barça have more patience and are more interested in consistency, while Real are always messing with their line-up, especially when the results aren't what they want them to be.
 

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They play for a year or two at Getafe and if they impress they get bought. Does this mean we dont play a part in raising them? Beckham went on loan before he became a regular first teamer at Utd and Jack Wiltshire is doing the same right now. I know its slightly different but to say Madrid doesnt raise these players is incorrect.
Yeah I'd say it is. At Barca these players are shoved into the first team right away and are allowed to develop their game in the Barca first team. That really doesn't happen at Real. At Real the players either seem to develop at other clubs and be bought again like de la Red and Granero, or play a handful of first team games or for Castilla and then make it elsewhere like Negredo and Diego Lopez. Very few are given a chance in the first team, they have to go elsewhere to prove themselves. To compare Real to United who've blooded so many players over the years is a little silly.
 
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