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I also think that juniors can´t be considered on the same level. The jump to senior football seems to be too high to judge before making it.

Dragomir does look very promising (he recovered his early form after some problems) and maybe if he was at Liga I he would be a star, but we just don´t know yet. Puscas, Daminuta, Tira, Carnat to mention some had great performances at youth level that they didn´t confirm at senior level yet. Pascanu can be a exception because for the U21 he has shown he is much better than Nedelcearu, a player with 100 Liga I games, and is also much younger

It´s hard when making a list if you choose more talent or more performances

My List:

10 Screciu
9 Pascanu
8 Radu
7 Manea
6 Coman
5 Nedelcu
4 Morutan
3 Hagi
2 Man
1 Marin

And I´d add players like

Dragomir
Ivan
Dobre
Dulca
Puscas
Costache
Adrian Petre
Burlacu
Cicaldau
Matan
T. Baluta
Dragus
Deaconu


I think Man has made the biggest progress and having the best performances, while Marin is the first to confirm aborad. Hagi is showing he has everything to be a very important player (character, which we know isn´t easy at all, and Morutan alongside Coman are the ones with the biggest raw talent

Nedelcu is a player I like a lot and that has progressed lately, and Pascanu shows huge promise for a defender. Puscas is already raising some doubts about his real quality, considering he can´t settle abroad. Ivan is a ?, he showed promise in Liga I but must do something abroad
 

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Discussion Starter #202 (Edited)
Benzar (23) -- CONFIRMED, best RB we have, hopefully OK after injury
Balasa (19) -- also CONFIRMED IMO; we used Grigore for a long time, Balasa now needs a chance; another injury
Hodorogea (21) -- meh
Vatajelu (22) -- could be used, did pretty well
Filip (21) -- LOL
Bumba (21) -- mostly disappeared
Tanase (21) -- does OK
Rotariu (20) -- mostly disappeared after going abroad
Ivan (19) -- overrated (sorry Pele) and injured?
Matei (22) -- didn't succeed abroad, maybe Astra can save him
Stanciu (22) -- CONFIRMED for us, but no success abroad (yet), high pressure
Andone (22) -- CONFIRMED for his club; our style doesn't suit him
Puscas (19) -- confirmed, but at U21 level

I´m talking about players that i think have shown enough, not the ones that are juniors (Hagi or Dragomir), are very raw (Nedelcu or Marin) or already showed signs that they may dissapoint (Mitrita, Bus, Nica or M. Roman for example)
Hagi, Dragomir, Nedelcu, Mitrita, Bancu all promising and Marin is CONFIRMED. The rest, meh. Baluta Confirmed IMO.

Of the ones mentioned, some could/should be starters, e.g. Benzar, Balasa, Marin, Stanciu, Andone at the very least when Alibec is in his current shit form. IMO Baluta has a good claim to it, too.

Yeah, I agree. for 2 years, which are a lot in football, we can say that most of those players at least kept a good level and progressed in some cases. some already confirmed for the NT (Benzar, Stanciu, Marin) others look ready for it (Vatajelu, Balasa, Tanase, Puscas, Nedelcu) Some others dissapointed but are not lost yet (Rotariu, Ivan, Bumba, Filip, Matei) and only Hodorogea I´d say definately won´t be NT material (but is still a decent player). Some (Mitrita, Manea and Ionita, who was on a bad period when I made the list) have even made a comeback, and Dragomir and Hagi still look very promising
 

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List of our best young players abroad (22yo and under):

England
Mihai Dobre (Bournemouth)
Marco Dulca (Swansea)
Alexandru Pascanu (Leicester City)

Spain
Alexandru Tirlea (Real Madrid)
Andi Bogdan Stelea (Villarreal)
Nicusor Craiu (Villarreal)
Robert Bairam (Villarreal)
Rares Flueras (Sevilla)
David Vraciu (Valencia)
Ionut Badea (AD Alcorcon)

Germany
Flavius Daniliuc (Bayern; assuming we get him before he caps for Austria's seniors)
Alex Negrea (Augsburg)
Leon Peto (Mainz)
Rares Urcan (Nurnberg)
Lukas Iurea (Energie Cottbus)
Carl Luis Ludosan (Union Berlin)

Italy
Ionut Radu (Genoa)
Claudiu Micovschi (Genoa)
George Puscas (Palermo)
Vlad Dragomir (Perugia)
George Ganea (AS Roma)
Eduard Dutu (Fiorentina)
Vlad Mitrea (Inter)
Radu Dragusin (Juventus)
Razvan Sava (Juventus)
Gabriel Boloca (Juventus)
Andrei Cordea (Novara)
Marius Marin (Sassuolo)
Iulius Marginean (Sassuolo)
Hery Kim (Sassuolo? can't find any information on him anywhere)
Denis Hergheligiu (Atalanta)
Ionut Rus (Lazio)
Mihai Onisa (Virtus Entella)
Gabriel Sandu (Lodigiani - one of the best Italian youth clubs; Totti, Candreva, Moretti played there)

France
Virgiliu Postolachi (PSG; assuming our plans to cap him happen)
George Merloi (Rennes)

Russia
Ionut Nedelcearu (Ufa)

Belgium
Razvan Marin (Standard)
Vladimir Screciu (Genk)

Netherlands
Dorin Rotariu (AZ [Club Brugges])
Ricardo Farcas (Ajax)
Antonio Sefer (Groningen)
Antonio Manolache (Groningen)
Constantin Albu (Utrecht)

Czech Republic
Andrei Sintean (Viktoria Zizkov [Slavia Prague])

Austria
Andrei Ivan (Rapid Wien [Krasnodar])

Denmark
Adrian Petre (Esbjerg)

MLS
Theodor Corbeanu (Toronto FC)

I'm sure I'm missing more in Spain and Italy, and probably some other half-decent leagues not listed. But this is a solid overview.

Edit:
Lost contact/info on Salvatore Marrone (formerly at Nurnberg), Alexandru Dumitru (formerly at Atletico Madrid), Andrei Trusescu (formerly at AS Roma), and Hery Du-Ho Kim (formerly at Sassuolo).
 

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Best young players in Romania:

Viitorul (12)
Alexandru Matan 80-85
Denis Dragus 84-89
Ianis Hagi 75-80
Tudor Baluta 74-78
Andrei Ciobanu 70-75
Virgil Ghita 67-72
Carlo Casap 72-77
Alexi Pitu 82-87
Robert Neciu
Radu Boboc 66-71
Louis Munteanu too early, but 73-78
Raul Vidrasan (on loan at ASU Poli Timisoara) too early to say

CS U Craiova (11)
Alexandru Cicaldau 74-79
Andrei Burlacu 67-72
Jovan Markovic 71-76
Valentin Mihaila too early
Razvan Popa 64-69
Florin Borta too early
Radu Birzan too early
George Bostina too early, but 72-77
Stefan Vladoiu (on loan at Metalul Resita) 69-74
Lucian Buzan (on loan Dunarea Calarasi) too early
Alin Manea (on loan at Chindia Targoviste) 68-73

Dinamo (7)
Alin Dudea 66-71
Robert Moldoveanu 69-74
Deian Sorescu 68-73
Denis Ciobotariu 71-76
Ricardo Grigore 66-71
Constantin Dima 68-73
Liviu Gheorghe (on loan at Dacia Unirea Braila) 67-72

FCSB (7)
Olimpiu Morutan 85-90
Dennis Man 83-88
Florinel Coman 81-86
Dragos Nedelcu 75-80
Daniel Benzar 71-76
Andrei Vlad 72-77
Ianis Stoica too early

CFR Cluj (3)
Valentin Costache 73-78
Cristian Manea 74-79
Sebastian Mailat 69-74

Poli Iasi (3)
Ionut Pantiru 69-74
Patrick Petre 70-75
Marius Chelaru 72-77

ACS Poli Timisoara (3)
Cosmin Birnoi dont know enough tbh
Denis Harut 68-73
Cristian Podina 62-67

Botosani (2)
Razvan Oaida 71-76
Lorand Fulop 69-74

U Cluj (2)
Doru Dumitrescu too early, but 72-77
Dan Berci 68-73

Astra (2)
Romario Moise 65-70
Robert Valceanu 66-71

Others
Darius Olaru (Gaz Metan) 71-76
Ronaldo Deaconu (Concordia) 69-74
Vlad Mihalcea (Voluntari) 66-71
Florin Stefan (Sepsi) 68-73
Iulian Ilie (Rapid) 69-74
 

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Costache at CFR. Pantiru at Iasi and Florin Stefan at Sepsi too.


Italy
Ionut Radu (Genoa)
Claudiu Micovschi (Genoa)
George Puscas (Palermo)
Vlad Dragomir (Perugia)
George Ganea (AS Roma)
Eduard Dutu (Fiorentina)
Vlad Mitrea (Inter)
Radu Dragusin (Juventus)
Razvan Sava (Juventus)
Gabriel Boloca (Juventus)
Andrei Cordea (Novara)
Marius Marin (Sassuolo)
Hery Kim (Sassuolo? can't find any information on him anywhere)
Denis Hergheligiu (Atalanta)
Ionut Rus (Lazio)
Mihai Onisa (Virtus Entella)
Gabriel Sandu (Lodigiani - one of the best Italian youth clubs; Totti, Candreva, Moretti played there)
Trusescu (Roma)?
 

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Costache at CFR. Pantiru at Iasi and Florin Stefan at Sepsi too.




Trusescu (Roma)?
OMG I had such a brainfart about Costache. I've even seen him play for CFR this season :facepalm:

About Trusescu, I considered him but then looked him up and saw he went back to AS FC Danut Coman (obviously the club of Danut Coman, the goalkeeper).

Thank you for your help. Any others?
 

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I guess I could add Theodor Corbeanu from MLS.
 

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Added potential ratings for each player locally, “FIFA-style”
 

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Daniel Barbir and Albert Stahl are on trial with Borussia Dortmund. Thanks to Sarmasan
 

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Morutan is a CAM, best qualities... probably dribbling & vision.

Dragus can play as winger or striker, has a knack for scoring goals.

Both are players who can still grow a lot, Dragus plays for a team who is awesome for young players while Morutan plays for a team that's terrible for young players.

I'd say Dragus will become bigger because modern football hates playmakers.

Pitu -- I'll let @GICA or others more familiar with him comment.
 

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@Hagibest of Pitu, Dragus or Morutan, who do you rate as the best player? Individually, what kind of players are they and which are their best qualities?

Hey man,

You’re the standard liege fan I was talking to on Reddit, right?

Cool of you to come by :)

Foresta basically covered it.

With Pitu, I’m also less knowedgeable about compared to the others, but he has a Messi-like approach to the game, decent physically, and appears to be very mature and intelligent for his age. He has already made some good steps in Viitorul first team and our youth NTs. We’ll see more what he has to offer in the next year or two, I think.

Another couple I’d mention are Ianis Stoica, who scored in a cup game for FCSB at 14, and Antonio Sefer, who is a very skillful CAM at Groningen and GICA compared to Ozil in style.

Vlad Dragomir seems to be cementing his place at Perugia right now too.

Anyways, of all these guys right now it is difficult to separate, but potential-wise... my gut goes with Dragus or Sefer. The others should have high ceilings too with some luck and good work..

also I think Ianis Hagi is turning out better than I initially expect, though it’s still early for him too, the talent is clearly there.
 

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Pitu is still young to compare with the other two. He needs at least 20 games in top division.

On Romanian young players, I rate Vlad Dragomir above everyone else.
 

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On Romanian young players, I rate Vlad Dragomir above everyone else.
IDK about that. Talentwise we have a good group of candidates of becoming very good players. But Dragomir is already playing in Serie B, and performance-wise that's fantastic for a romanian youngsters
 

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Interesting interview with Adi Rus.

He was told to not play anymore (even by Didi Prodan) because of some health problems, and he struggled a lot to get chances. It goes to show how many talents might be lost because of the bad managements/ injuries/ chance
But he seems to be really determined. Radoi has a huge merit in calling him

He was even called to the hungarian U21 but didn't get to play because he needed 3 years there

https://m.prosport.ro/fotbal-intern/liga-1/interviu-exclusiv-povestea-incredibila-a-fundasului-dorit-de-fcsb-o-eroare-medicala-i-a-interzis-sa-joace-fotbal-ungaria-l-a-salvat-si-l-a-vrut-in-nationala-dar-a-ajuns-sa-joace-tot-pentru-romania-17785986
 
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