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The strongest National League of the World by International Federation of Football History & Statistics (IFFHS) from 1991 to 2004 (http://www.iffhs.de/)


1991 (Top 3): 1. Italia (points 1.382,5) 2. España (1.069,0) 3. England (1.059,0)

1992 (Top 3): 1. Italia (1.342,5) 2. España (1.145,5) 3. Nederland (941,5)

1993 (Top 3): 1. Italia (1.577,5) 2. España (1.171,0) 3. Deutschland (1.046,5)

1994 (Top 3): 1. Italia (1.345,0) 2. France (1.067,5) 3. España (1.030,0)

1995 (Top 3): 1. Italia (1.352,5) 2. España (1.069,0) 3. France (1.045,0)

1996 (Top 3): 1. Italia (1.119,0) 2. España (1.037,0) 3. France (1.008,0)

1997 (Top 3): 1. Deutschland (1.209,0) 2. Italia (1.181,0) 3. España (1.120,0)

1998 (Top 3): 1. Italia (1.276,0) 2. Brasil (1.198,0) 3. España (1.096,0)

1999 (Top 3): 1. Italia (1.163,0) 2. España (1.145,0) 3. England (1.134,0)

2000 (Top 3): 1. España (1.215,0) 2. England (1.116,0) 3. Italia (1.051,0)

2001 (Top 3): 1. España (1.267,0) 2. England (1.176,0) 3. Italia (1.013,0)

2002 (Top 3): 1. España (1.209,0) 2. England (1.183,0) 3. Italia (1.119,0)

2003 (Top 5): 1. Italia (1180,0) 2. España (1107,0) 3. England (1052,0) 4. Brasil (1026,0) 5. Argentina (882,0)

2004 (Top 5): 1. España (1.189,0) 2. England (1.184,0) 3. Italia (1.010,0) Brasil (1.010,0) 5. France (999,0)


Total (from 1991 to 2004): Italia 9, España 4, Deutschland 1

any comments?

wich is the strongest national league ever in last 15 years?
and... in 2005?


I start:

1- Italia (Serie A)

2- España (Liga)

3 - England (Epl)

4- Deutschland (Bundesliga)

5- Brasil (Brasileirão, Carioca, Paulistão) - France (Ligue1)
 

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Pretty much agreed with your ranking. I can see where this thread is going though. Will probably be entertaining.
 

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You might have ruined it all with too much facts in the first post though. :D

Facts have ruined many a good discussion.
 

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We don't need all these stats to know the EPL blows, folks.
 

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No the EPL does not suck, however it is grossly overrated. End of discussion. ;)

By the way nice history lesson Marvels X.
 

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Haha. It's funny to see how many people on these forums hate EPL. They hate EPL more than they love whatever league they follow.

I mean here is a post to say what league you think is the strongest. We have two posters that are fans of spanish teams, and neither of them cares to make a case for La Liga. Both just wanna say how much they think EPL sucks. It's really quite sad, but in a funny way.

Keep it up, entertain us.
 

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stongest league in the world...Serie A? Half the teams are going bankrupt. Its only Milan, Juventus and Inter that keep the thing ticking over. If these three cleared off, Serie A might as well change its name to the Scottish Premier League;)
 

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toff said:
Haha. It's funny to see how many people on these forums hate EPL. They hate EPL more than they love whatever league they follow.

I mean here is a post to say what league you think is the strongest. We have two posters that are fans of spanish teams, and neither of them cares to make a case for La Liga. Both just wanna say how much they think EPL sucks. It's really quite sad, but in a funny way.

Keep it up, entertain us.
It is pretty damn entertaining and pathetic too, especially when you consider that most EPL fans couldn't give 2 f**ks whether or not the EPL is better than Serie A or La Liga, we just concentrate on what we like instead of dwelling on what we don't. Have you noticed that every topic opened about EPL, English players, and the English NT get the most replies? The haters are obsessed with our football.
 

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Fred Elliot said:
stongest league in the world...Serie A? Half the teams are going bankrupt. Its only Milan, Juventus and Inter that keep the thing ticking over. If these three cleared off, Serie A might as well change its name to the Scottish Premier League;)
No, No Fred, everybody knows that Fiorentina or Numancia would win the EPL with a record of 38-0-0. :tongue:
 

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Fred Elliot said:
stongest league in the world...Serie A? Half the teams are going bankrupt. Its only Milan, Juventus and Inter that keep the thing ticking over. If these three cleared off, Serie A might as well change its name to the Scottish Premier League;)
Not really, I think Udinese, Roma, and Palermo would do us proud enough. ;)
 

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Xt and it's posters never cease to amaze me.........

I'm going to sit this one out :lala:
 

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My grandpa is the new mascot for the 'coco-pops monkey' :shades:

(i thought id add something of relevance)
 

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Fred Elliot said:
stongest league in the world...Serie A? Half the teams are going bankrupt. Its only Milan, Juventus and Inter that keep the thing ticking over. If these three cleared off, Serie A might as well change its name to the Scottish Premier League;)
yeah, cuz england is boasting with so many strong teams. arsenal, united and chelsea and ..ummm....ummmmmmmmmmmm...yeah, thats about it. :smileani:
 

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toff said:
You might have ruined it all with too much facts in the first post though. :D

Facts have ruined many a good discussion.
Facts should be a starting point for discussion.
Discussion started anyway, i see. :happy:
 

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What is this based on - success of the country's clubs, gate attendences, popularity? Nobody has any idea..

" The classification of the best leagues of the world is made objectively without any out side influence of any sort. We follow the criteria that the level of performance of a league is reflected by the best classified teams of that league who in turn usually represent their country in international club competitions. If one looks at the football power-houses of the world, one notices that regularly 4 or 5 clubs of their leagues are always competing in con tinental competitions. By adding the points won in all competitions by the five best placed clubs of each league, we have the points for the country which in turn helps to establish a fair classification. It is important to note that only the yearly classification is representative, since all competitions move along the whole season and over twelve months, we have an objective view of the best. This system has been used since 1991, and it is recognized today as the most precise in rating the leagues of the world. (IFFHS.de)"


At www.iffhs.de you can have all the info you need.
 
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