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Explain the story behind the formation of your favourite club, and their most significant achievement in your club's history to date.

It should be interesting for people to learn more about other club's in the game and learn of the reason behind their establishment.

I'll begin, with Celtic obviously.

Celtic Football Club were formed in November 1887 by a Marist Priest known as Brother Walfrid.

He saw the founding of a football club in the East End of Glasgow as an ideal opportunity to raise money for a charity he had established, which was designed to help alleviate the poverty-stricken people in the city's area at the time. The majority of which were immigrants from Ireland.

A football club would also provide those who had emigrated from Ireland to the East End of Glasgow something which would represent them at a time when they were largely neglected and unwanted in the country.

The name 'Celtic' was settled on, designed to honour both the club's Irish and Scottish roots.

79 years after Celtic were born, in 1967, the club won European Football's greatest prize, the European Cup in Lisbon. With the "Lisbon Lions" defeating Inter Milan 2-1 to become the first club in Britain to win the trophy under the guidance of legendary manager Jock Stein.
 

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Once upon a time in Testaccio, some guys had had enough of the northern dominance of Italian football. They formed AS Roma. Lazie was asked to take part in this project but refused, thus forever becoming a puppet on a string for Juve and Inter. We showed them big time. The end.
 

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I have a question on Celtic. Why is it pronounced Celtic with a soft sounding C when referring to the team, and with a hard C when the word celt is uttered?
 

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Good thread! ;)

Info about my beloved Valencia C.F:

Valencia Football Club was founded in 1919 in the center of Turia river capital, in the Torino Bar. The first president of Valencia Football Club, Octavio Augusto Milego Díaz, was elected by chance: a coin tossed into the air helped deciding between himself or Gonzalo Medina Pernás.

Before the founding of Valencia Football Club, there was already football in the city although there was no dominant club. It seems that football arrived in Valencia thanks to those people in the citrus fruits export business who had visited Great Britain, the cradle of football. That was the case of Francisco Sinisterra or Ramón Leonarte. In the same way, it was pretty common to see British sailors at Valencian ports playing with a ball. Already in 1908, there were several teams in Valencia like Levante, Gimnástico, Hispania or Hispano.

In the 40s Valencia had a great team, possibly one of the best ever, with Ignacio Eizaguirre as goalkeeper, two defenders that perfectly understood each other (Álvaro and Juan Ramón) and the electric forwards, formed by two Valencian and three Basque players. This team would conquer the first great national title for the club: the 1941 Cup, against Español. It was the first victory after two decades of existence. In this decade Valencia also conquered 3 Liga titles (1942, 1944 & 1947), with Edmundo Suárez (Mundo) being the top scorer (pichichi) of la Liga two times.

Valencia's first European title (the Fairs Cup, UEFA Cup now) was in 1962, when we beat Barça 6-2. Next year Valencia was the champion again, this time versus Dinamo Zagreb, and in 1980 we achieved the Cup Winners' Cup against Arsenal.

Kempes is probably our greatest legend, and he was the top scorer in the 76-77 season (24 goals) & 77-78 season (28 goals). He was a key player for winning the 1979 Cup and the 1980 Cup Winners Cup. His skills made an Argentinean journalist baptise him with the nickname of ‘Matador’ (killer) and everyone could hear ‘Don’t say Kempes, say goal’ every Sunday in Mestalla.

Valencia had a dark era in the 80s, when the team was relegated to Segunda División in 1986. It was the hardest moment throughout the whole life of the club.

And well, everyone knows our success in the last years, with 2 Liga titles (2002, 2004), 1 UEFA cup (2004), 1 Cup (1999) and finalist of the CL in 2000 and 2001.


TITLES:

6 Ligas (1942,1944,1947,1971,2002,2004)
6 Copas del Rey (1941,1949,1954,1967,1979,1999)
3 UEFA Cups (1962,1963,2004)
1 Cup Winners' Cup (1980)
2 European Supercups (1980,2004)
1 Spanish Supercup (1999)
 

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Can't be arsed doing it in detail:

Arsenal FC

- Founded in 1886 by Scottish workers in an armaments factory in Saaaf London;
- Initially named "Dial Square FC" after the sun dial in the courtyard of the factory;
- Name changed to "Royal Arsenal FC" sometime in the 1890s;
- Moved grounds a few times to Plumstead Common and the Invicta Ground;
- Changed name again to "Woolwich Arsenal FC" after the district in Saaaaf London;
- In 1913 we moved to Highbury in Noooorf London;
- Changed name to "The Arsenal";
- Changed name AGAIN to just "Arsenal FC";
- Henry Norris tried to merge us with Fulham, failed;
- Promoted back to the First Division in 1919 under controversial circumstances which lead to Spurs getting relegated;
- Haven't been promoted since, longest streak without getting relegated;
- Herbert Chapman made manager, wins us our first trophies;
- Dominate the 1930s winning more than half of the First Division titles;
- Chapman dies in 1933;
- Win a few titles in the 1940s and one in the 50s;
- Majorly suck in the 1960s, decade capped off by losing to Swindon Town in the League Cup final;
- In 1970 the first of two European trophies is won vs. Anderlecht;
- 1970/71 sees Arsenal win their first double;
- Ajax knock Arsenal out of the European Cup in 1/4 finals;
- Bertiee Mee resigns, two managers not up to the task (Neill and Howe) last a few years;
- Mediocrity and crappyness for eighteen years;
- Play in three consecutive FA Cup finals, defeat Manchester United but lose to Ipswich Town and West Ham United;
- Defeated by Valencia in 1980 Cup Winner's Cup final;
- George Graham becomes manager;
- Win our first title in eighteen years in THAT match at Anfield;
- Only lose one match to win the 1990/91 League title;
- Graham resigns in 1995;
- Dennis Bergkamp signed by then manager Bruce Rioch from Inter Milan;
- Arsene Wenger becomes the first foreign manager in Arsenal history;
- Patrick Vieira signed by Wenger from AC Milan
- Wenger leads Arsenal to their second double in 97/98;
- Thierry Henry signed by Wenger from Juventus for then club record 10.5m pounds;
- Lose in the 99/00 UEFA Cup final 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray;
- Sylvain Wiltord signed by Wenger from Bordeaux for then club record 13.5m;
- Stephane Henchoz cheats us out of the FA Cup;
- Win the double in 01/02, win the league title back at the Theatre of Shit;
- Throw away 02/03 league title at the final hurdle, win FA Cup;
- Jose Antonio Reyes signed by Wenger from Sevilla for current club record 17m;
- Arsenal go unbeaten in the 03/04 season;
- Break Nottingham Forests record of unbeaten games;

Yeah, that's about it ...
 

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Cacìni said:
I have a question on Celtic. Why is it pronounced Celtic with a soft sounding C when referring to the team, and with a hard C when the word celt is uttered?
I think the softer sounding 'Celtic' as the club are known is from the way the name is pronounced by the Irish, as Brother Walfrid the club's founder himself was Irish.

Although there are a few differing philosophies as to why the name is pronounced differently the one described above seems to be the most realistic to me.
 

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Udinese Calcio S.p.A is an Italian football club. Based in the town of Udine (Friuli-Venezia Giulia region, northern Italy), the club currently plays in Serie A. The team home kit is black and white quartered shirt, black shorts, and white socks.

The club play in the Stadium Friuli, which can seat 41,705.

The club was founded in 1896 as part of the Società Udinese di Ginnastica, the club won a regional championship in its first season. The club played in the regional leagues until 1929 when it joined Serie B. Never outstandingly successful the club was quickly relegated and did not return to that division until 1939. Promotion to the top division was first achieved in 1950, but the club was relegation in 1955 following a nine point deduction for irregularities, the club bounced back the next season. The club was relegated in 1961-62 and fell all the way to Serie C by 1964. The club remained in C for fourteen seasons before returning to B and then reaching A in 1979. The club stayed in A until 1987 and then moved between the top two divisions for a time before re-establishing themselves in A from 1995, with the club's highest finish ever coming in 1997-98 when they were third.

The club has never had success at the top level or in European competition. They have been Serie B champions twice (1955-56 and 1978-79), Serie C champions three times (1938-39, 1948-49, and 1977-78), they won the Anglo-Italian Cup once (1978) and the Mitropa Cup once (1980). And an Inter Toto cup (2000)


Club Records :

All-time Top Scorer :87 Walter D’Odorico
Season's Top Scorer : 27 Oliver Bierhoff (97-98)
Most Capped Italian: 18 Stefano Fiore
Biggest Signing : £8.5m David Di Michele (Salernitana 01-02)
Biggest Sale : £15.5m Stefano Fiore (Lazio 01-02)


Serie A Records :

Highest Placing: 3rd (1998)
Most Points : 64 (97-98)
Lowest Points : 15 (86-87)
Biggest Home Win : 7-0 v Napoli (57-58)
Heaviest Home Defeat: 0-6 v Inter (60-61)
Biggest Away Win : 5-0 v Genoa (83-84) & Perugia (99-00)
Heaviest Away Defeat : 0-7 v Fiorentina & Milan (58-59)
Most Wins : 19 (97-98)
Least Wins : 3 (79-80)
Most Defeats : 23 (61-62)
Least Defeats : 4 (82-83)
Most Goals : 62 (97-98)
Least Goals : 24 (79-80 & 80-81)
Most Conceded : 63 (61-62)
Least Conceded : 29 (82-83)


...copied and pasted by one crappy website, the onlyone in english that i've founded...no time for translate one book with 500 pages, sorry (and since nobody cares to know about my team this is enough...)
 

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biggest away win against Genoa??? thank you udinese....thank you :proud:
 

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Arianna said:
Biggest Home Win : 7-0 v Napoli (57-58)
Heaviest Home Defeat: 0-6 v Inter (60-61)
Biggest Away Win : 5-0 v Genoa (83-84) & Perugia (99-00)
Heaviest Away Defeat : 0-7 v Fiorentina & Milan (58-59)
Arsenal
Record victories: 12-0 (Loughborough Town (h) 12 March 1900 - Lge (Div 2)); 12-0 (Ashford United(h) 14 Oct1893- FA Cup (1))
Record defeat: 0-8 (Loughborough Town (a) 12 Dec 1896 Lge Div 2)

Not bad :shades:
 

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It was a rainy day in Milano 1899, some English dudes was talking about how it felt like home. Then the skies opened and the face of GOD was upon them, he said:

"You are in Italy now, the seat of Christian religion and where some dude that calls himself "pope" think he is my voice in this world. I set this mission upon you, create the worlds most glamorous and fantastic team and set it loose upon the world"

The Englishmen answered:

"Yes sir! Let us call it Milan"

GOD continued:

"Remember that for my team there comes a time of stife, for 40 years you will go trouphyless and you will spawn a bastardchild known as "Inter". Fear not, for after that glory beckons for eternity and the bastardchild will suffer regardless of what famous troops they gather."

GOD then dissapeared and the rest is history.
 

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Nottingham Forest Football Club

There have many ups and downs in the history of Nottingham Forest Football Club, starting with their first official game against Notts County in 1866, through to their great European Cup victories of 1979 and 1980.

There were more lows after the departure of Brian Clough and highs again when Forest returned to the Premiership, finishing third in the 1994-95 season.

As it stands Forest remain in the First Division, striving for a place back in football's elite. With Manager Joe Kinnear's skills we should make it, but if you're after a bit of a walk down memory lane you've come to right place.

As you'll agree forest's history is something to be very proud of, but there is a lot of it... as a result its been broken down into small chunks.

Nottingham Forest Football Club originally emerged from a group of "shinney" players who played a then popular game very similar to hockey.

At a time when football began to emerge as a growing force, a special meeting took place in 1865 at the Clinton Arms, Shakespeare St. to discuss a proposition moved by J.S.Scrimshaw to switch games from "shinney" to football.

This was passed, and the first official football match played was on 22 March 1866 against Notts County (who had been formed in 1862). Following a brief transitionary period and the establishment of new committee, Nottingham Forest Football Club was born in 1867.

The year 1865 was of equal importance in that at the same meeting at the Clinton Arms, the other main resolution passed was for the team to purchase a dozen red caps, complete with tassels, thereby establishing the official club colour: "Garibaldi Red", named after the leader of the Italian freedom fighters known as the redshirts, who were universally popular in England at that time.

Nottingham Forest Football Club formally applied for and was accepted into the Football League in 1892, after being originally rejected in its inaugural year of 1888. Instead, Forest played in the Football Alliance, culminating in 1892 when they won the competition, a feat which paved the way for their entry into the Football League.

Although Forest's entry into the Football had been somewhat belated in contrast to Notts County, Forest had experienced a colourful existence playing in the Alliance; a period perhaps most heralded in the season 1878-1879 when Forest experienced two significant events. Firstly, the team and club were greatly strengthened as a result of the Notts Castle Club being disbanded and joining Forest en bloc; with the influx of this additional talent, Forest became an extremely powerful team. Secondly, with this strengthened side, Forest decided to enter the FA Challenge Cup competition for the first time. Notts County had made their first challenge in the previous year; they were now to meet in the first round, held at the Beeston Cricket Ground, Forest came out 3 - 1 winners, with Forest reaching the semi-final.

Another momentous season during this period in Forest's infancy was that of 1897-98 when they won the FA Cup playing against Derby County in the final. The final score was 3-1, ironically reversing the score of 5-1 in Derby's favour in a League game the previous week. There had been 62,017 at the final played at Crystal Palace on Saturday April 16 1898. Forest had brought 5,000 fans with them on special trains.

From a historical point of view, this initial period in Forest's existence had seen a number of Football "Firsts". Forest was the first English team to wear the shin-guard in 1874 (although worn outside the socks). In 1878, Forest's game against Sheffield Norfolk was credited as being the first occasion in the English game when a whistle had been used by a referee. It was Forest again; who had invented, at the behest of Sam Widdowson, the "classical" formation of a goalkeeper, two full- backs three-man halfback line and five forwards. A formation initially introduced during the 1870s by Forest, enduring a life span right into the early 1960s.

The early years witnessed a string of changing playing ground locations. Initially, 1865 saw the team playing at the Forest Racecourse, relocating in 1879 to the Castle Ground and then the Meadows; between 1873 - 1885 saw Forest have varying spells at Trent Bridge, the Parkside Ground and the Gregory Ground, with a degree of continuity between 1890 - 1895 when Forest played at the Town Ground.

When Forest won the FA Cup the new century was only two more years away. Forest were already raising funds for yet another new ground. The energetic members of the private club that was Forest were not going to become complacent, and it seemed as if the football world was at their feet, inviting them to new heights. Their expectations were to be realised, but it took them over three-quarters of a century: Forest had first to experience a daunting barren midlife.

In 1897, before their momentous Cup win, the officers of Nottingham Forest Football Club decided to move to a new ground which was to become The City Ground, the club's home for the next 100 years.

With the exception of the period 1897 - 02, when Forest came fifth in the First Division, this period can best be summarised by Forest's rather tepid existence in the topflight. Forest were unable to do little even in the Second Division. From their relegation in 1925 up to the Second World War, they settled down mostly in the bottom half of that table. Perhaps the most ignominious period was the season 1913-14, when Forest finished bottom of the Second Division and needed to successfully seek re-election!

The crisis deepened early in 1915 when Forest had to advise the League that they couldn't pay their bills. With a £50 grant and support of a weekly payment for the rest of the season, Forest just survived. With all this, it was the outbreak of World War One that in effect saved Forest's very existence. For the duration of the war, the Football league was suspended, with football reverting into a Regional league structure for the duration. On the resumption of the normal Football League programme in 1919/20, Forest took their place in the Second Division.

Interestingly though, despite the lack of League success, Forest drew some remarkably good crowds. No fewer than 49,000 attended the 1927 Second Division match at Manchester City. During the 1929-30 season, the home match against Sheffield Wednesday, drew a crowd at The City Ground of 44,166.

The 1939-49 season was started, with the declaration of war on 3 September 1939 seeming to catch the Football League by surprise. Forest, in common with most clubs, had completed three games, winning two, and was on their way to Swansea when the announcement came, and they turned back at Oxford. The Football League was abandoned and regional leagues were rapidly arranged.

Once more perhaps, a world war had saved Forest from a serious crisis. By 1915, Forest were in debt to the tune of several thousand pounds, and were rescued from bankruptcy by the committee members digging into their own pockets. All players' contracts were cancelled, with Forest reverting to recruit local amateur players and the establishment of their first colts team, providing Forest with hope that they might be better equipped when the war would come to end.

Forest began the first post-war season in the Football League with optimism. Attendances were terrific, with nearly 33,000 turning up for the first home game against Newcastle. However, post-war optimism came crashing down when Forest were relegated from the Second Division into the Third, playing alongside County. However, Forest's two seasons in the old Third Division were to be the only ones to date. The 1951-52 season saw Forest's return to the Second, to be followed with promotion back up into the First Division at the end of the 1956-57 season.

Was the dawning of new era about to unfold?

Although Forest were back in the First Division, no one needed telling that they had won nothing in the twentieth century. This fact was to be challenged now on May 2 1959 when Forest met and beat Luton Town in the FA Cup at Wembley.
In the summer of 1959, Forest toured Spain and Portugal. Manager Billy Walker resigned after 21 years and was replaced by Andy Beattie. However, Forest's seemingly upward momentum received a check in the 1965-66 season, the centenary year, with the side dropping to 15th in the table.

In contrast, the 1966-67 season was to be a magical season. It drew the largest crowds the club had ever had -before or since - and at the time it held out the outstanding possibility that Forest might win the "double". The team that manager Johnny Carey had assembled had the virtue of being unchanged for most of the season. In goal was Peter Grommitt, with Peter Hindley, Terry Hennessey, Bob McKinlay and John Winfield on the back line. In mid-field, the creativity came from John Barnwell. The tackling mid-fielder was Henry Newton. There were three candidates for the outside two forward roles provided by Alan Hinton, Barry Lyons and Ian-Storey-Moore.The central attacking pair were Frank Wignall and "Zigger Zagger" Joe Baker. During the season Ian Storey-Moore scored 21 League goals, Baker 16 and Wignall 5. Throughout the season, the excitement and crowds just seemed to grow and grow. Attendances that season were the best in Forest's history. Although the season brought no silverware, expectations had been roused with Forest first ever runners up position at the top flight.

Irony was regrettably all that was to arrive at the City Ground by the end of the next season. Injuries to both Ian Storey-Moore and John Barnwell were soon to expose the fragility of Forest's success in 1967. It was the dependence on two or three players and a temporary gelling. It could easily have been built upon - crowds of 40,000 were virtually guaranteed at the time - but it was not be. Poor football management, its unique committee structure and proud amateurism almost inevitably led to its inability to sustain the success of that year.

After Matt Gillies left in October 1972, there were two short managerial reigns by Dave Mackay and Allan Brown. For a time, Forest were to languish in the Second Division. It seemed to be a typical tale of post-war Nottingham Forest, but just around the corner lurked a force that was to change everything, forever.
 

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Thanks man - Me and you both. :)
 

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Nico said:
The year 1865 was of equal importance in that at the same meeting at the Clinton Arms, the other main resolution passed was for the team to purchase a dozen red caps, complete with tassels, thereby establishing the official club colour: "Garibaldi Red", named after the leader of the Italian freedom fighters known as the redshirts, who were universally popular in England at that time.
And now you know why Arsenal also wear red.
 

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It was a rainy day in Milano 1899, some English dudes was talking about how it felt like home. Then the skies opened and the face of GOD was upon them, he said:

"You are in Italy now, the seat of Christian religion and where some dude that calls himself "pope" think he is my voice in this world. I set this mission upon you, create the worlds most glamorous and fantastic team and set it loose upon the world":stuckup::devil:

The Englishmen answered:

"Yes sir! Let us call it :devil: Milan :devil:"

GOD continued:

"Remember that for my team there comes a time of stife, for 40 years you will go trouphyless and you will spawn a bastardchild known as "Inter":jester::howler:. Fear not, for after that glory beckons for eternity and the :jester: bastardchild :jester: will suffer regardless of what famous troops they gather." :jester::devil:

GOD then dissapeared and the rest is history.
:thmbup::devil:

Beautifully summarized :star: Kris :star: !:thmbup::star:

Cheers.;)
 

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Futbol Club Barcelona

Origins

The club was founded by the Swiss Joan (Hans) Gamper on November 29th, 1899, along with Gualteri Wild, Lluís d'Ossó, Bartomeu Terrados, Otto Kunzle, Otto Maier, Enric Ducal, Pere Cabot, Carles Pujol, Josep Llobet, John Parsons and William Parsons. This fact explains the colours of the team, which are the colours of Basel. Since the very begining, Gamper tried to link the club with the society, which explains the popularity of the club among the barceloneses compared with the rest of the teams of the city (Español, Hispania, Europa, etc.). An example of this was the first logo, which was the same of the one of the city. The first achievements were in the regional tournaments (Campeonato de Catalunya 1905, 1909), although we also played the first Copa del Rey final (we lost 2-1 against Vizcaya in 1902).




The first decade was full of problems and the club almost disappeared. Barça finally survived and the first stadium owned by the club was "La Industria" with a capacity for 6,000 people. As a result of this Barça lived the first big social expansion and victories appeared.

-Campeonatos de Catalunya: 1910, 1911, 1913, 1916, 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922
-Copa del Rey: 1910, 1912, 1913, 1920, 1922

Glorious era: Estadi de Les Corts



In 1922, "La Industria" was too little for the club and the club built the 2nd stadium: Les Corts. Barça needed a proper and modern stadium to host the best Spanish team of that time: Samitier, Alcántara, Zamora, Sagi, Piera, Platko and Sancho, among others. Originally Les Corts hosted 30,000 people, although later the stadium reached the amount of 60,000. The club had more than 12,000 "socios". The team collected titles:

-Campeonato de Catalunya: 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928
-Copa del Rey: 1925, 1936, 1928.
Also, the club won the first edition of La Liga in 1929.

But at the same time, the club lived bad moments. In a friendly match, the crowd booed the Spanish anthem in the stadium. At that match, the dictator Primo de Rivera was present and the government closed Les Corts for 6 months and Gamper had to renounce to the presidency for good.

Crisis and Civil War

The crisis appeared in the 30s, where politics became the most important after the victory of the left, the end of the Monarchy and the II Republic. The amount of socios felt, the economy was in crisis and the sport results disappeared. Barça could keep the dominance in Catalunya winning the Campeonato de Catalunya in 1930, 1931, 1932, 1934, 1936 and 1938 (the last one during the Civil War); but nothing was achieved in the Spanish tournaments.

The Civil War had a horrible impact in the whole country and in Barça too. The fascist army of Franco killed our president (Suñol) in 1936. In 1938, the facist plains bombed the social club. After the war, the new regime imposed Enric de Mesa as president of the club, an appropiate man for the fascist government. The club was already a symbol for the catalans and they did some changes to "españolize" the club. The name was changed, they called us "Club de Futbol Barcelona", to avoid the original (and current) anglophone name, it was this way until 1973. They also changed our logo and the Catalan flag in it disappeared. Instead of the 4 red strips, we had to wear only 2. In this case, we recovered the catalan flag in 1949. The club survived making tours in Mexico and the United States during the Civil War.

Down and Up

The crisis was very hard. Barça almost got relegated to Segunda in 1942 and we had to play a promotion match that year. In 1943, it's known for the robbery in Chamartin (Real Madrid's stadium) where the players received death threats by the police, doing the refs their job... Piñeiro (another president chosen by the Franco regime) was forced to resign.

Later Barça achieved the glory again, winning the Ligas in 1945, 1948 and 1949. Also the team won the Copa Latina (considered the precedent of the European Cup) in 1949. This is the 2nd big era of the club with players like Cesar, Basora, Ramallets, Suguer, Biosca, the Gonzalvo brothers, etc. In 1949, the club cellebrated the 50th anniversary. We had won 4 Ligas, 9 Copas and 21 Campeonatos de Catalunya and we were 24,893 socios at that time.

Kubala

The 50s started with the signing of Ladislao Kubala and Barça became an unstoppable team. Between 1951 and 1953, Barça won all the titles that played: Liga 1952 and 1953; Copa in 1951, 1952 and 1953. Also the Copa Latina in 1952. There's a popular song of Joan Manuel Serrat about the magical foward line at that time: Basora, Cesar, Kubala, Moreno and Manchón.

The fascists attack again and the Camp Nou

The regime decided to attack Barça again. FC Barcelona signed a young Argentinian, called Alfredo Di Stefano, who was presented in Les Corts with the blaugrana shirt. The government of Franco, personal friend of Real Madrid's president, Santiago Bernabeu, invented a story and they said that they had documents that said that Di Stefano was signed for Real Madrid first. The solution of the GOVERNMENT OF SPAIN was that Di Stefano had to play one year in Barcelona and one year in Madrid, consecutively!! Barça renounced to the player as a protest for the continuous attacks of the Spanish fascist regime. Enric Marti, our president, resigned.

The new president Miró-Sans impulsed the building-work of a new stadium: the Camp Nou that was founded in 1957. Initially, the stadium had a capacity for 90,000 people. The club won the Copa that year and had 49,000 socios. Barça also won the Liga in 1959 and 1960 and the Copa de Ferias (currently UEFA Cup) in 1958 and 1960. Barça had a great squad that years: Kocsis, Czibor, Evaristo, Kubala, Eulogio Martínez, Suárez, Villaverde, Olivella, Gensana, Segarra, Gràcia, Vergés and Tejada, with Helenio Herrera as coach.



The crisis of the 60s and national identity: Barça és més que un club (Barça is more than just a club)

The 60s were a dark era. We began losing the European Cup final in 1961 (Benfica 3-2 Barcelona) after being the first team that had won Di Stéfano's Real Madrid in that tournament in semifinals. We only won 2 Copas (1963 and 1968) and another Copa de Ferias (1966). But at the same time, the Catalan society linked the club with the fight against fascism and oppression and the Camp Nou was one of the few spaces of freedom. For the "socios", the club was over the sport situation, Barça was the symbol to defend the national identity when any other way of expression was closed. At that moment appeared the famous sentence: "Som més que un club".

70s and Johan Cruyff

In 1971, we won the Copa del Rey. Also that year the club builded the Palau Blaugrana for the different sport sections of the club (basketball, handball, roller hockey,...) and the Pista de Gel (Ice court). In 1973, the club signed Cruyff, who could not play until several weeks after the begining, due to problems with the passport (the fascist regime again?). When Cruyff appeared, we won La Liga without losing a match. 14 years later, we had won La Liga. That Barça was trained by Rinus Michels and we had also players like Rexach, Asensi, Cholo Sotil, De la Cruz and Marcial.

Josep Lluis Núñez

In 1978, Nuñez won the elections for the presidency with a message of modernity. He built the Mini Estadi (a stadium for the B team with a capacity for 20000 people). We won our first Cup Winners Cup in 1979 in Basel against Fortuna Dusseldorf (4-3), many barcelonistas have special memories about this match. It was the first final after Franco's death and 30,000 barcelonistas travelled to Basel to watch the final. The Camp Nou raised its capacity to 120,000 seats for the World Cup 1982.



We won the 2nd Cup Winners Cup in the Camp Nou against Standard in 1982. That year, Barça signed Diego Maradona, although his era wasn't very successful, due to his injuries.



In 1984, the team won La Liga with Terry Venables as coach, who had replaced Cesar Menotti. That team had players like Alexanko, Migueli, Urruti, Schuster, Julio Alberto, Archibald, Carrasco or Victor. This team played the 2nd European Cup final of our history in 1985 in Sevilla... in a stadium full of barcelonistas, we lost in the penalty series, after a 0-0 draw. Horrible.

In 1988, Johan Cruyff replaced Luis Aragones (who had won the Copa that year) and he started a revolution, sacking most of the old "sacred cows" and signing new promising players: Bakero, Begiristain, Lopez Rekarte, Soler, Roberto, etc. In 1989, Cruyff saved his head winning Cup Winners Cup 2-0 against Sampdoria in Basel. That day we played with Zubizarreta, Lopez Rekarte, Soler, Milla, Serna, Amor, Lineker, Eusebio, Julio Salinas, Roberto, Begiristain, Aloisio. Our rivals had players like Cerezo, Vialli, Mancini, Victor or Lanna in their team.

In 1990, Koeman and Laudrup signed for Barça. The year finished with the 2nd failure of Cruyff in La Liga, but winning a Copa del Rey in Valencia against Real Madrid (2-0).

From 1991 to 1994, Barcelona achieved 4 consecutive Liga titles, playing a nice football. We lost a Cup Winners Cup against Manchester United. We won the Champions League title in 1992, again against Sampdoria. We lost the CL in 1994 against Milan. Without a doubt the 1992 CL title is our biggest achievement. We played with Zubizarreta, Ferrer, Juan Carlos, Koeman, Nadal, Eusebio, Bakero, Goikoetxea, Amor, Laudrup, Stotichkov, Begiristain, Witschge and Alexanko. The Dream Team.




Once Cruyff and his Dream Team were gone, Bobby Robson signed for us. We won the Cup Winners Cup and the Copa del Rey in 1997, it was the Barça of Luis Enrique, Ronaldo, Figo, Popescu, Giovanni, Guardiola, etc. Van Gaal signed one year later achieving 2 consecutive Ligas (1998, 1999) and Rivaldo was the symbol of that team that ruled Spain, but failed in Europe.

Biggest crisis: Joan Gaspart

After a bad year in 2000, Nuñez and Van Gaal resigned. Joan Gaspart won the elections and we began the longest era without titles. Many coaches, many unuseful players, many failures and economical crisis.

Present: Laporta, Rijkaard and Ronaldinho

Gaspart resigned in 2004 and Laporta won the elections for the presidency. His first big signing was Ronaldinho. Laporta had the task of re-building a destroyed club. He found a solution for the crisis, he made a similar revolution to the one made in 1988. The results began at the end of the last season. 6 years later, Barça is again an alternative in Spain and Europe.


Nice thread, King_Henrik :thmbup:
 

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Futbol Club Barcelona

Origins

The club was founded by the Swiss Joan (Hans) Gamper on November 29th, 1899, along with Gualteri Wild, Lluís d'Ossó, Bartomeu Terrados, Otto Kunzle, Otto Maier, Enric Ducal, Pere Cabot, Carles Pujol, Josep Llobet, John Parsons and William Parsons. This fact explains the colours of the team, which are the colours of Basel. Since the very begining, Gamper tried to link the club with the society, which explains the popularity of the club among the barceloneses compared with the rest of the teams of the city (Español, Hispania, Europa, etc.). An example of this was the first logo, which was the same of the one of the city. The first achievements were in the regional tournaments (Campeonato de Catalunya 1905, 1909), although we also played the first Copa del Rey final (we lost 2-1 against Vizcaya in 1902).




The first decade was full of problems and the club almost disappeared. Barça finally survived and the first stadium owned by the club was "La Industria" with a capacity for 6,000 people. As a result of this Barça lived the first big social expansion and victories appeared.

-Campeonatos de Catalunya: 1910, 1911, 1913, 1916, 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922
-Copa del Rey: 1910, 1912, 1913, 1920, 1922

Glorious era: Estadi de Les Corts



In 1922, "La Industria" was too little for the club and the club builded the 2nd stadium: Les Corts. Barça needed a proper and modern stadium to host the best Spanish team of that time: Samitier, Alcántara, Zamora, Sagi, Piera, Platko and Sancho, among others. Originally Les Corts hosted 30,000 people, although later the stadium reached the amount of 60,000. The club had more than 12,000 "socios". The team collected titles:

-Campeonato de Catalunya: 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928
-Copa del Rey: 1925, 1936, 1928.
Also, the club won the first edition of La Liga in 1929.

But at the same time, the club lived bad moments. In a friendly match, the crowd booed the Spanish anthem in the stadium. At that match, the dictator Primo de Rivera was present and the government closed Les Corts for 6 months and Gamper had to renounce to the presidency for good.

Crisis and Civil War

The crisis appeared in the 30s, where politics became the most important after the victory of the left, the end of the Monarchy and the II Republic. The amount of socios felt, the economy was in crisis and the sport results disappeared. Barça could keep the dominance in Catalunya winning the Campeonato de Catalunya in 1930, 1931, 1932, 1934, 1936 and 1938 (the last one during the Civil War); but nothing was achieved in the Spanish tournaments.

The Civil War had a horrible impact in the whole country and in Barça too. The fascist army of Franco killed our president (Suñol) in 1936. In 1938, the facists plains bombed the social club. After the war, the new regime imposed Enric de Mesa as president of the club, an appropiate man for the fascist government. The club was already a symbol for the catalans and they did some changes to "españolize" the club. The name was changed, they called us "Club de Futbol Barcelona", to avoid the original (and current) anglophone name, it was this way until 1973. They also changed our logo and the Catalan flag in it disappeared. Instead of the 4 red strips, we had to wear only 2. In this case, we recovered the catalan flag in 1949. The club survived making tours in Mexico and the United States during the Civil War.

Down and Up

The crisis was very hard. Barça almost got relegated to Segunda in 1942 and we had to play a promotion match that year. In 1943, it's known for the robbery in Chamartin (Real Madrid's stadium) where the players received death threats by the police, doing the refs their job... Piñeiro was forced to resign.

Later Barça achieved the glory again, winning the Ligas in 1945, 1948 and 1949. Also the team won the Copa Latina (considered the precedent of the European Cup) in 1949. This is the 2nd big era of the club with players like Cesar, Basora, Ramallets, Suguer, Biosca, the Gonzalvo brothers, etc. In 1949, the club cellebrated the 50th anniversary. We had won 4 Ligas, 9 Copas and 21 Campeonatos de Catalunya and we were 24,893 socios at that time.

Kubala

The 50s started with the signing of Ladislao Kubala and Barça became an unstoppable team. Between 1951 and 1953, Barça won all the titles that played: Liga 1952 and 1953; Copa in 1951, 1952 and 1953. Also the Copa Latina in 1952. There's a popular song of Joan Manuel Serrat about the magical foward line at that time: Basora, Cesar, Kubala, Moreno and Manchón.

The fascists attack again and the Camp Nou

The regime decided to attack Barça again. FC Barcelona signed a young Argentinian, called Alfredo Di Stefano, who was presented in Les Corts with the team with the blaugrana shirt. The government of Franco, personal friend of Real Madrid's president, Santiago Bernabeu, invented a story and they said that they had documents that said that Di Stefano was signed for Real Madrid first. The solution of the GOVERNMENT OF SPAIN was that Di Stefano had to play one year in Barcelona and one year in Madrid, consecutively!! Barça renounced to the player as a protest for the continuous attacks of the Spanish fascist regime. Enric Marti, our president, resigned.

The new president Miró-Sans impulsed the building-work of a new stadium: the Camp Nou that was founded in 1957. Initially, the stadium had a capacity for 90,000 people. The club won the Copa that year and had 49,000 socios. Barça also won the Liga in 1959 and 1960 and the Copa de Ferias (currently UEFA Cup) in 1958 and 1960. Barça had a great squad that years: Kocsis, Czibor, Evaristo, Kubala, Eulogio Martínez, Suárez, Villaverde, Olivella, Gensana, Segarra, Gràcia, Vergés and Tejada, with Helenio Herrera as coach.



The crisis of the 60s and national identity: Barça és més que un club (Barça is more than just a club)

The 60s were a dark era. We began losing the European Cup final in 1961 (Benfica 3-2 Barcelona) after being the first team that had won Di Stéfano's Real Madrid in that tournament in semifinals. We only won 2 Copas (1963 and 1968) and another Copa de Ferias (1966). But at the same time, the Catalan society linked the club with the fight against fascism and oppression and the Camp Nou was one of the few spaces of freedom. For the "socios" the club was over the sport situation, Barça was the symbol to defend the national identity when any other way of expression was closed. At that moment appeared the famous sentence: "Som més que un club".

70s and Johan Cruyff

In 1971, we won the Copa del Rey. Also that year the club builded the Palau Blaugrana for the different sport sections of the club (basketball, handball, roller hockey,...) and the Pista de Gel (Ice court). In 1973, the club signed Cruyff, who could not play until several weeks after the begining, due to problems with the passport (the fascist regime again?). When Cruyff appeared, we won La Liga without losing a match. 14 years later, we had won La Liga. That Barça was trained by Rinus Michels and we had also players like Rexach, Asensi, Cholo Sotil, De la Cruz and Marcial.

Josep Lluis Núñez

In 1978, Nuñez won the elections for the presidency with a message of modernity. He built the Mini Estadi (a stadium for the B team with a capacity for 20000 people). We won our first Cup Winners Cup in 1979 in Basel against Fortuna Dusseldorf (4-3). The Camp Nou raised its capacity to 120,000 seats for the World Cup 1982.



We won the 2nd Cup Winners Cup in the Camp Nou against Standard in 1982. That year, Barça signed Diego Maradona, although his era wasn't very successful, due to his injuries.



In 1984, the team won La Liga with Terry Venables as coach, who had replaced Cesar Menotti. That team had players like Alexanko, Migueli, Urruti, Schuster, Julio Alberto, Archibald, Carrasco or Victor. This team played the 2nd European Cup final of our history in 1985 in Sevilla... in a stadium full of barcelonistas, we lost in the penalty series, after a 0-0 draw. Horrible.

In 1988, Johan Cruyff replaced Luis Aragones (who had won the Copa that year) and he started a revolution, sacking most of the old "sacred cows" and signing new promising players: Bakero, Begiristain, Lopez Rekarte, Soler, Roberto, etc. In 1989, Cruyff saved his head winning Cup Winners Cup 2-0 against Sampdoria in Basel. That day we played with Zubizarreta, Lopez Rekarte, Soler, Milla, Serna, Amor, Lineker, Eusebio, Julio Salinas, Roberto, Begiristain, Aloisio. Our rivals had players like Cerezo, Vialli, Mancini, Victor or Lanna in their team.

In 1990, Koeman and Laudrup signed for Barça. The year finished with the 2nd failure of Cruyff in La Liga, but winning a Copa del Rey in Valencia against Real Madrid (2-0).

From 1991 to 1994, Barcelona achieved 4 consecutive Liga titles, playing a nice football. We lost a Cup Winners Cup against Manchester United. We won the Champions League title in 1992, again against Sampdoria. We lost the CL in 1994 against Milan. Without a doubt the 1992 CL title is our biggest achievement. We played with Zubizarreta, Ferrer, Koeman, Nadal, Eusebio, Bakero, Goikoetxea, Amor, Laudrup, Stotichkov, Begiristain, Witschge and Alexanko. The Dream Team.




Once Cruyff and his Dream Team were gone, Bobby Robson signed for us. We won the Cup Winners Cup and the Copa del Rey in 1997, it was the Barça of Luis Enrique, Ronaldo, Figo, Popescu, Giovanni, Guardiola, etc. Van Gaal signed one year later achieving 2 consecutive Ligas (1998, 1999) and Rivaldo was the symbol of that team that ruled Spain, but failed in Europe.

Biggest crisis: Joan Gaspart

After a bad year in 2000, Nuñez and Van Gaal resigned. Joan Gaspart won the elections and we began the longest era without titles. Many coaches, many unuseful players, many failures and economical crisis.

Present: Laporta, Rijkaard and Ronaldinho

Gaspart resigned in 2004 and Laporta won the elections for the presidency. His first big signing was Ronaldinho. Laporta had the task of re-building a destroyed club. He found a solution for the crisis, he made a similar revolution to the one made in 1988. The results began at the end of the last season. 6 years later, Barça is again an alternative in Spain and Europe.


Nice thread, King_Henrik :thmbup:

:proud: :proud: :proud: I love you, man.

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Once upon a time in Testaccio, some guys had had enough of the northern dominance of Italian football. They formed AS Roma. Lazie was asked to take part in this project but refused, thus forever becoming a puppet on a string for Juve and Inter. We showed them big time. The end.

Da "Il Littoriale" del 9 dicembre 1929
(il giorno dopo il primo derby)
"Sapevamo che a Roma la maggioranza del pubblico volge le sue simpatie ai giallorossi; credevamo tuttavia che anche gli azzurri avessero larga messe di simpatie. Ci siamo dovuti ricredere: i nove-decimi dell'immenso pubblico che ha gremito lo stadio della Rondinella (quello della Lazio, n.d.r.) agitavano bandierine giallorosse, rincuorando i beniamini! Si può dire obiettivamente che la Lazio ha giocato... in campo avversario".


From "Il Littoriale", december 9th 1929
(the day after the first derby)
"We knew that in Rome most of the people support the yellowreds; but we believed also the light-blue had a lot of sympathy. We have to admit we were wrong: nine of ten of the immense audience that was in the Rondinella Stadium (the SS Lazio one, n.d.a.) waved yellowred flags, supporting their idols! We can rightly say that Lazio played... in an away game".
 

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On 16th December 1899 a group of fans, gathered in a room of the Hotel du Nord, and thus formally established the sports club which had actually long been active: the Milan Football & Cricket Club.

The first Club’s headquarters were established in 1899 in the Wineshop at Via Berchet in Milan. That was the start of the glorious history of AC Milan, which has written memorable pages of football history thus becoming - especially over the last fifteen years - one of the strongest and most popular clubs in the world. The rossoneri’s past has become a legend, as well as the men who contributed to make it: Presidents, Coaches and Players.

The names of authoritative people have marked the course of Milan club’s history: from Alfred Edwards, the English founder who, two years after, succeeded in winning the first Italian Champion title, up to Silvio Berlusconi, the president who has won more than anyone else. Highly prestigious victories attained everywhere in the world proving the power and the organisation of a unique group. A top club is also recognisable by its strategies and choices of its leaders, especially coaches. Milan’s successful history is indeed also linked to its benches, hosting the greatest Italian football coaches, such as Gipo Viani, Nereo Rocco and Nils Liedholm, the masters of the Sixties; Arrigo Sacchi and Fabio Capello, as their heirs, based their tactics and strategy on a modern, brilliant and spectacular football.

Sacchi and Capello, in Berlusconi’s management era, won and triumphed providing marvellous emotions. With Sacchi, Milan won, in four seasons, a league championship title, the European Champion’s Clubs’ Cup twice, the European Supercup twice and the Intercontinental Cup twice consecutively; with Capello four league championship titles, a European Supercup and a European Champion Clubs’ Cup in five years. Most recently, besides the current coach Carlo Ancelotti, symbolising the continuity with the most successful seasons of Berlusconi’s era, Alberto Zaccheroni in his two-year period led Milan to win its latest, exciting league championship title.

Milan has become a winning team in Italy and worldwide also thanks to its champions, players envied by all teams in the world: Gunnar Gren, Gunnar Nordhal, Nils Liedholm (the mythical Swedish "Gre-No-Li" trio), the Uruguayan Juan Alberto Schiaffino, the Brazilian José Altafini. Then Gianni Rivera, still considered one of the best Italian football players ever, accompanied in his extraordinary play actions by Anquiletti, Trapattoni, Lodetti, Sormani and Prati. But Rivera’s name is also linked to the name of another great player. When Rivera won the star’s league championship title, there was a young talented man playing in defence, Franco Baresi, who taking over the baton from him, would later become the symbol and flag of the record-holder Milan for twenty years, fully deserving the title of "Milan’s Player of the Century" in a public survey.

That Milan will be remembered as the "unbeatable" team. In the Captain Baresi’s Milan, extraordinary players, such as the unequalled Dutch trio of Marco Van Basten, Ruud Gullit and Frank Rijkaard played and alternated. Over time, further top players obtained great success, such as the genius from Montenegro, Dejan Savicevic, the Liberian George Weah, the Croatian Zvonimir Boban, the French Marcel Desailly, just to name a few of them.

Those teams could also rely on the most effective, essential contribution of Italian champions, such as: Carlo Ancelotti, Paolo Maldini, Mauro Tassotti, Daniele Massaro, Alessandro Costacurta, Alberigo Evani, Roberto Donadoni, Filippo Galli, Demetrio Albertini, Roberto Baggio, Sebastiano Rossi. Next to some of them, still playing at top levels, there are now the new stars: Massimo Ambrosini, Christian Abbiati, Serginho, Gennaro Ivan Gattuso and Andriy Shevchenko, Manuel Rui Costa and Filippo Inzaghi and among the newest entries, the outstanding champions Alessandro Nesta and Rivaldo.

The performances of these players endowed with a strong personality enhance the style and character of the Club. Technical staff and players with a winning mentality represent a true example for the youth approaching football. Milan is living the present rich of inherited values and is about to face the future with ambitious goals. The team presents itself to its fans with a hundred years football tradition spent with constant commitment and high professional skills on the pitch and off it, ready to start a new season and face new, exciting challenges.

Cheers.;)
 
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