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Here it is. Seems like every thread turns into a discussion about Kranjcar. So lets just make a topic and keep it from going in every topic.

I expect Orkan to have the most posts and I will also contribute with a few.:D



Cico, vadi ga!

KLJUČNA riječ je pretplata. Neki luzeri u Hrvatskoj plaćaju tv pretplatu, drugi pretplatu na ložu "Maksimir", pa imaju privilegiju gledati utakmice u društvu gospođe Božice Barišić. Pretplata se daje i rozom "Comu", a zauzvrat se dobije razglednica sa Djevičanskih otoka i dialeri pride.

Rodite li se pak u obitelji Kranjčar, a otac vam staž tuče na trenerskoj klupi, a mirovinsko i socijalno krvavo zarađuje gubeći živce pokraj aut linije, sto posto ste pretplaćeni na mjesto polušpice u ofenzivnoj i nadmetanja željnoj formaciji 3-4-1-2 nacionalne nogometne vrste.

Nepotrebno je ponavljati da je Niko Kranjčar prenapuhana i medijski stvorena zvijezda, jer je to valjda jasno i najvećim intimusima tate Zlatka. Također, nije namjera na ovom mjestu opanjkavati Niku zato što je to najednom postalo moderno, nego zato što je stvarno krajnje vrijeme da se tog igrača makne iz reprezentacije, iz jednostavnog razloga što je momčad za koju on igra u startu hendikepirana igračem manje.

Hongkonšku reprezentativnu avanturu, kao i njegovi suigrači odradio je katastrofalno, protiv Dinama se istakao pucanjem slobodnjaka u živi zid, dok je na Kantridi bio vidljiv jedino u jalovim pokušajima iznuđivanja prekršaja. Opet, kao da postoji zavjet u sportskom tisku po kojem Kranjčar Jr. ne smije dobiti manje od 6.5.

Sportski novinari su isključivi krivci za predimenzioniranje Kranjčarevih vještina, još od njegovih dana u "pijetlićima". Kad se prije četiri godine, zaslugom Tomislava Židaka, uskovitlala prašina oko tada 17-godišnjeg Nike, koji nije odigrao nijednu ozbiljniju utakmicu, svi su se rukama i nogama gurali upasti u vlak koji je na olovni pogon dječaraca vozio u nogometni Panteon.

Bilo je pomalo jadno čitati kako čak i lirski nogometni djedica Zvonimir Magdić želi dokazati da je upravo on prvi primjetio fantastične potencijale malog dječaka. "Amigo" se prisjećao kako njegovom iskusnom oku nije promaklo da je Niko kao trogodišnjak, dok je lupajući loptom po zidu sobe mamu Elviru dovodio do ludila, pokazao da ima "strašan šus".

Zvonimir Boban je jedini nogometaš kojeg se do te mjere forsiralo, djelomice nezasluženo, kada je kao odbačeni Hajdukov junior došao u Dinamo i pod Ćirom postao kapetan. Ali nije "nogometni ban" Boban samo odbacivanjem imotskog naglaska i preuzimanjem purgerskih manira postao veliki nogometaš.

Tadašnji Dinamo je vapio za zvijezdom, nakon pustih promašenih bosanskih i srbijanskih investicija, pa se ljepuškasti dečko, koji k tome zna napraviti "deset na nozi", a usput dolazi iz hrvatskog kraja, doimao savršenim izborom za mit u nastajanju, puno prije nego što je maznuo milicionera mae-gerijem.

Upravo mi je napuhivanje Kranjčara, onako kako se dotad kadilo i sladilo jedino o Bobanu, kada je o mlađim igračima riječ, bilo doista smiješno, jer je do 22. godine Boban zabio par desetaka golova u krvavoj Jugo ligi, bio proglašen najboljim igračem na Svjetskom prvenstvu mladih, kojeg je i osvojio, a na stolu je doista imao milijunske ponude europskih nogometnih velikana, dok je zasad za Niku jedinu službenu ponudu prošle zime poslao moskovski CSKA.

Boban se kalio na "vrućim terenima" u Mostaru, na Grbavici, Nišu i Marakani, dok se Niku u momčad kola postavlja kad zabije iz penala Interu.

"Što, kažete da Ivić tvrdi da su moje mane proizvod nerada!? Odnosi li se to na mene ili na trenere koji me nisu tjerali da radim ili su sa mnom pogrešno radili?" - bezobrazno će Kranjčar, na primjedbe najvećeg nogometnog stručnjaka u zemlji o njegovom nedostatnom trčanju i lošoj fizičkoj spremi.

Luka Bonačić mu poručuje kako nije zadovoljan njegovim radom, ali uz kočnicu, "kako je neupitna njegova želja i angažman", čime je doista razočarao.

Njegova želja i angažman bi se najbolje dale testirati da ga je teleportirati 20 godina u prošlost da ga po Tušnju lovi Jusuf Hatunić, ili da mu na Bilinom Polju flastera igra Jerko Tipurić.

Možda čak to ne bi bilo potrebno, jer i ovako slabašnoj ligi Kranjčar pokazuje koliko je ustvari beskrvan, a igrače koji uprkos škembi imaju "dobar pregled igre i završni pas", možete naći na svakom terminu malog nogometa.

Zvonko Alač
 

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That article is unfortunately spot on. Kranjcar has done nothing especially in the last few games, and people comparing him to Boban whether in the past or now is simply absurd. What's scary is the fact that he's still one of Hajduk's best players!!! :dazed:
 

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Zvonko ne laze...na zalost.
 

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or baric, who made sure he never got near the field.

if niko krajcar doesn't have it, so what, it's not fair for everyone to have expected him to all of a sudden come in and be the entire '98 midfield all on his own.

i think the bigger problem is with his father, who is not allowing healthy competition for his place on the field by including more players fit for his position into the squad regularly.
 

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trla baba lan

niko will play for NT in 1st 11 as long as his dad is the coach.
I don't have anything against Cico, he's the best that came to lead NT in last 5-6 years but his "nepotizam" is so obvious..

Even the likes of Modric and Vugrinec who can play his position, showed 2x more then Niko in HNL but still didn't get real chance to play for NT

what I fear the most is that now, Cico will give chance to Modric vs Argentina and if he fails to provide what is necessary (despite that might be better then his son shows at the moment), Cico will tell - here you go, liches, I gave the chance to Luka and he didn't convince me he's capable of replacing my son 'cause my son is genius with ball.. niko is the only man for that position, we don't have anyone else (of course we don't, they all play in lower leagues, setaju se terenom i naprave 2-3 driblinga na tekmi i Bogovi su sa skembicama)
 

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what I fear the most is that now, Cico will give chance to Modric vs Argentina and if he fails to provide what is necessary (despite that might be better then his son shows at the moment), Cico will tell - here you go, liches, I gave the chance to Luka and he didn't convince me he's capable of replacing my son 'cause my son is genius with ball.. niko is the only man for that position, we don't have anyone else (of course we don't, they all play in lower leagues, setaju se terenom i naprave 2-3 driblinga na tekmi i Bogovi su sa skembicama)
I think Luka knows this as well as any of us and he will perform if played in his natural position of course.
 

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The biggest mistake with Niko was not putting him on the NT when he was younger.

We waited too bloody long and look at the result.

I still think he's a good player-from what I've seen, loads of skill and a deft touch. But I can't watch his Hajduk form, so I'll go by what the likes of D11, and Orkan and Grba say..he's not developed like he should, and he doesn't have the work rate of Modric, not even close. I saw him in Toronto and was amazed at his pace.

I strongly felt, and feel at the time had Niko been introduced earlier, when Baric was still coaching things would be different.

If it weren't for that criminal, who knows how strong Niko would be.

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ljubuski, i really think you're jumping to comclusions there. it's not like he wasn't playing all those years. he was a regular for the u-21's and a member of a dinamo team that game him champions league experience as well.
 

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I dont think that has anything to do with his work ethic. He just does not have the desire to become a great player. He has gotten continually bigger, slower, and less productive as he gotten older.

I really dont think its a coincidence as to why Dinamo and Hajduk played into regulation when he was considered their "best player". I mean I really dont see how in over 14 NT games, he did anything to cement a position on the team. In Hong Kong, he was are only "A" starter and was not even close to being our best player there. I really could go on and on :).

Our team really needs pace, its something we desperately lack in attack. That is why both Prso and especially Klasnic need fast, involved players like Modric and Pranjic. Just think how much more dangerous Srna would be playing alongside these guys!!!!!!

I just hope Im not using your theory about Kranjcar ruining guys like Modric, Petric, Pranjic etc.....about not giving them the proper chance when they deserved it :) . But I agree he should have been in Portugal, I just dont think it has anything to do with his lack of natural pace, work ethic, and heart.
 

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Orkan_Dugi Rat said:
Ljbuski



Our team really needs pace, its something we desperately lack in attack. That is why both Prso and especially Klasnic need fast, involved players like Modric and Pranjic. Just think how much more dangerous Srna would be playing alongside these guys!!!!!!

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The smartest thing that has ever came from you in all you anti-Niko posts good job :thumbsup:
 

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I dont get it why Niko isnt in better form. Why does Hajduk not assign him a trainer and get him in form. THis whole Niko not being able to run is absurd, he is a paid athlete and should be fit no matter who his daddy is.

Cico has been a great coach so far, but his biggest mistake that is going to haunt him for years is his loyalty to his son. This experiment has gone far too long. If he put as much effort in developing guys like Modric and others who knows how good our NT would be right now.

There is still time to use Modric and others in the few games we have before the WC, no need to use Niko. We all know what he can and cant do in the 15 min he plays.

Cico give others a chance.
 

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ljubuski, i really think you're jumping to comclusions there. it's not like he wasn't playing all those years. he was a regular for the u-21's and a member of a dinamo team that game him champions league experience as well.
And that form is what earned him such praise.

He was playing incredibly well back then, I'm just saying he should have been on the NT because of merit, before his old man took over.

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Heres a prediction, I would like all to remember..........

Niko Kranjcar will struggle to find a home after the WC. Hajduk will desperately try to get rid of him for some profit, but to no avail. The situation will get very messy. He will wind up staying in Croatia, or moving to a second tier Euro league(Austria, Belgium, Swiss). He will fail miserably by being an average player in these leagues, and return back to Croatia before the age of 27 or retire..............

If this occurs, what happens to Niko Kranjcar super prospect???????

Does he still get a guaranteed spot on our NT????????
 

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he should have been on the nt way before his old man took over..every newspaper and forumer here was calling for his inclusion.
 

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he should have been on the nt way before his old man took over..every newspaper and forumer here was calling for his inclusion.
Thanks Ero.

Remember the excuses some people were saying about not putting him in? Even D11, was calling for his inclusion and singing his praises. I honestly think that ex-'coach' of ours is a traitor-by-incompetence. Just look at his wide-eyed comments and statements, he has no education and no sense. It's like having our team lead by Haig*.

I mean if Pleti is suc.king somebody to stay on the NT, I don't even want to imagine what Baric was doing that whole time.

It's ridiculous what we did to Niko back then. Such a rush to throw Da Silva out there, but when it came to one of our own, in good Croatian fashion, he 'wasn't good enough'. Disgrace.

Cheersch

*For the Yanks-He was an Imperial WWI General who gave good excuse to Canucks and Aussies that the global imperial system wasn't totally in our best interest.
 

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he should have been on the nt way before his old man took over..every newspaper and forumer here was calling for his inclusion.

Ok, whats the point in that now??? The only thing I agree with Otto on though, is Kranjcar and Rapajic could not have been out there together. Our mids would have been killed. At the time, I agree he should have been called up though. The relevance that has now Im not sure???? I happen to think Modric should have been giving a chance a long time ago. I think Pranjic deserves a starting spot for us, but he doesnt even get a mention!!! Where does that leave us????

I think Modric will be watching the game wednesday from the stands actually. If he plays, I dought he will play meaningful minutes and I hope its in his natural postion(inplace of Kranjcar). If this happens why did we even call him up????? That is just as criminal anything Baric has done.
 
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