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A very underrated fact for last 4 games, is that we havent conceaded a goal in that time. Havent looked close to conceading (sadly also havent looked to close to scoring, with pk or a dybala wonder goal opening up matches). But whatever Sarri is doing defensively post epidemic closure is working, hope we continue down this path.
I think it has alot to do with De Ligt's form, he looks like to have finally settled in and is continuing his sparkling form since just before the lockdown. His signing could really be the best in Serie A (along with Lukaku) for this season, specially in light of Chiellini and Demiral's long term injuries and potential for more improvement in the coming years.
 

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The Arthur-Pjanic swap seems like it is almost done.

I don't know what to make of this, as I've read conflicting articles with regards to Arthur. Some praise him as the midfield general next-Xavi while at the same time Barca seem desperate to get rid of him, first to Inter in the Lautaro deal and now an exchange with the slower, 7 years older Pjanic.I just hope it is not an attitude problem, or a fitness problem as some claim physically he cannot complete 90 minutes. Another angle to look at this potential swap is the financial incentives in capital gain which will massively help both clubs.
 

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As Juventus prepare to swap Miralem Pjanic for Barcelona’s Arthur Melo, Livio Caferoglu explains why the Bianconeri are getting by far the better end of the deal...





“I didn’t know much about Arthur before [he joined], but he’s really similar to Xavi,” Lionel Messi raved about Arthur Melo in September 2018, just two months after the midfielder left Gremio to join Barcelona. “He’s really safe and reliable [on the ball]. He has the style of a player that’s come through La Masia. He plays well over short distances, he doesn’t lose the ball… He’s got to grips really quickly with the team’s dynamic.”
Praise doesn’t come much higher than that. Not only did it come from arguably the greatest player in history, but Leo was comparing the Brazilian to arguably the game’s greatest metronome. Luis Enrique’s Barca, while hugely successful, were accused of betraying the club’s DNA after the departure of Xavi in 2015. His departure coincided with the last time the Blaugrana won the Champions League and, with no like-for-like replacement, their play under the former Roma boss increasingly bypassed the middle of the park.
Even with a front three of Messi, Neymar and Luis Suarez, that was considered sacrilege. That all changed during the 2017-18 campaign, when Neymar moved to Paris Saint-Germain and Ousmane Dembele flattered to deceive in his place. Barca were markedly average for much of the season, their 3-0 defeat to Roma an unfortunate highlight, and they stepped up their search for a Xavi heir, tying up a €39m deal for Arthur, who had just won the Copa Libertadores with Gremio and was also wanted by PSG and Chelsea.
Ernesto Valverde had envisaged lining Arthur up in a midfield three with Sergio Busquets and Philippe Coutinho, who at the time had been backed to take over from Andres Iniesta. Although things didn’t quite pan out that way, the 23-year-old didn’t take long to make an impact. Not at least on his teammates, who quickly began queuing up with praise, from Rafinha saying he had ‘a touch of Xavi about him’ to Thomas Vermaelen stating he ‘has all the battling skills and technical ability to go right to the top’.
In two particular matches during his debut season at Camp Nou, he confirmed his credentials as the heir to Xavi. First, he completed 135 of his 142 passes in 1-1 draw at Valencia to play the most successful balls in a Spanish league game away from home since his predecessor back in November 2012. He then followed that up in the Champions League, achieving a 98.6 percent pass completion rate with 71 successful passes out of 72 during a 5-1 rout of Olympique Lyonnais.
This term, however, he has been unfairly made a scapegoat by his club and new boss Quique Setien, who ludicrously suggested Arthur had failed to live up to expectations. While it’s fair to say Barca have endured a turbulent campaign by their lofty standards, levelling any sort of blame at the playmaker is absurd when you consider he has missed part of the season with injury and has always been a quiet cog. The problem lies with how the Catalans’ poor performances have forced him out of his comfort zone, hanging out to dry.
“Since Arthur has been with me, he has tried very hard to take on the things we’ve asked [of] him,” the coach argued. “Sometimes he has been lacking some consistency, but it is not easy to change things in a player which other coaches have said are very good. Arthur has been used to being told to make sure of holding the ball. Now we come in and say you should play one or two touches. He has found it a challenge, but he is on a good path. It will make him a better player.”
That may well be one area where Arthur needs to improve, but Setien’s credibility is quickly shot down when the player replacing him at Camp Nou is Miralem Pjanic, who needs even more time on the ball and - at 30, seven years older than the Brazilian - has been showing signs of slowing down for some time. It may be that he enjoys a new lease of life as one of the outside central midfielders in the Blaugrana’s 4-3-3, but that seems unlikely. As the old saying goes, you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
So what are Juve getting? They’re not signing Jorginho, but rather the next best thing. Arthur will slot snuggly into Pjanic’s No 5 shirt, protected by two ‘mezz’ale’ beside him. He has the quality to dictate games with his precise passing and brilliant footballing brain for the next decade. Defensively, the ball sticks to him like a magnet and his signature move, whereby he pirouettes his way out of trouble with poise, will be a weekly sight to behold for Juve fans, relieved their club has finally brought in a competent ‘regista’.
Arthur made no secret of his desire to stay at Barca and the deal may be primarily motivated by financial incentives, amidst speculation that Juve are standing to pocket a ‘plusvalenza’ - or capital gain - of €47m, with Barca’s balance sheet set to benefit from a much-needed €49m, but one thing can’t be disputed: the Old Lady are not only significantly weakening a direct rival. They’re also significantly strengthening themselves.
 

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Another poor refereeing decision taken against Parma in favor of inter (clear penalty not given), not much in the media

Atalanta scoring 80 goals in just 28 matches, that is 24 goals more than Juve!
 

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53 - Dejan Kulusevski has completed 53 dribbles in the current Serie A and is one of only 5 players born after 1/1/2000 of the top 5 European championships 2019/20 to boast at least 50 successful dribblings.

 

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He is also a nice diver like Caicedo.
 

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Another poor refereeing decision taken against Parma in favor of inter (clear penalty not given), not much in the media
What did 'the media' say about Inter being denied not 1 but 2 penalties against Parma in San Siro earlier this season? :)

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Or the unawarded penalty to Young against Cagliari? Another match we drew in.. while juve get an identical penalty against Fiorentina.. double standards


Or in Lecce-Inter when Donati escaped a clear red card (after 20 minutes in the first half) after a horror foul on Barella

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We have had our fair share of bad calls that have cost us points this season. That's without even going into juve playing a lot of volleyball this season (De Ligt and Cuadrado)
 

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Don't know how Paratici is doing it, but after Muratore there is a dash for more sales before the June 30 financial year deadline, Mavididi and Sene are expected to bag in another €10m combined...
 

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Wow, 3 beauties scored tonight to re-open the gap back to +4...

Can't make up my mind which one was the better... maybe Dybala's for the fancy footwork...

The team is slowly improving since the lockdown and the messy Coppa matches, hopefully the team peaks during the crucial run against Milan, Atalanta and Lazio...

Also good to see Cristiano finally getting some rest...
 

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Lol. You know nothing but I will give you an example which should make things clear even to you. My example will include Sampdoria so you can't moan.

Audero to Sampdoria for 20 million euros was obviously a huge amount of money for a goalie who was worth 3-5 million euros according to transfermarkt when he joined us.

Now consider these players who moved from Sampdoria to Juventus in the same and in the following transfer sessions:

Daouda Peeters (who?) from Sampdoria U19 to Juventus U23 for 4 million euros, plusvalenza 4 million euros
Erasmo Mulé (who??) from Sampdoria to Juventus U23 for 3.5 million euros, plusvalenza 3.1 million euros
 

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Lol. You know nothing but I will give you an example which should make things clear even to you. My example will include Sampdoria so you can't moan.

Audero to Sampdoria for 20 million euros was obviously a huge amount of money for a goalie who was worth 3-5 million euros according to transfermarkt when he joined us.

Now consider these players who moved from Sampdoria to Juventus in the same and in the following transfer sessions:

Daouda Peeters (who?) from Sampdoria U19 to Juventus U23 for 4 million euros, plusvalenza 4 million euros
Erasmo Mulé (who??) from Sampdoria to Juventus U23 for 3.5 million euros, plusvalenza 3.1 million euros
I know how plusvalenza works and that explains the whole Arthur-Pjanic and Moreno-Corriera swaps on inflated prices, but I was referring to the Mavididi sale which was after he was on loan with Dijon and Montpellier and Lille both showed an interest in buying him, and the amount isn't exorbitant for a young talented striker...
 
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