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Over the last couple of weeks I've noticed there has been quite alot of conjecture and debate in the various newspapers over the war between the rival football codes for Australia's voluminous number of fine young athletes.

In the Brisbane courier-mail one or two of the various coaches of Brisbane's major sporting teams(AFL & Rugby League) have said that thier own particular codes has been gaining huge growth at junior level in the SE Qld area??

In one or two of the Sid-er-nee papers the dabate has concentrated on the new ozkick program that will be relaunched with a lot of financial backing in the western suburbs once a strong RL developement ground when the AFL gets it's squillions from Ch7/10/fox footy.

There has also been a lot of talk about Rugby League players decamping to Union.

In all of the column inches that were wrote by the different journalists not once did they mention football or 'soccer' as they like it too be called and it's huge junior participation!

Not once did they talk about game that has more juniors throughout Australia than all the bother codes put together!!

Why is is this?

Why does football always get forgotten about by the mainstream sporting media when talking about junior developement?

How can football retain it's juniors against massive competiton from the other 'footy' codes??

Is 'soccer' still seen as a game for 'girls' by the young men of today in the same way as their fathers did a generation ago???

And what about the sons of Australia's vast migrant population,do they still feel they have to play the traditional Aussie football codes aswell as 'sockah' in order to assimilate to Australia's prevailing culture of 'real men play footy'!!!

Hopefully you guys can answer these questions in an intelligent and attentive manner unlike some of the half-wits on TWG would do!!!! :jester:
 

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boroboro said:
In all of the column inches that were wrote by the different journalists not once did they mention football or 'soccer' as they like it too be called and it's huge junior participation!

Not once did they talk about game that has more juniors throughout Australia than all the bother codes put together!!

Is 'soccer' still seen as a game for 'girls' by the young men of today in the same way as their fathers did a generation ago???
im sick of people expecting the media and the general public to stop calling it soccer. You have to remember that our national footy league is well over 100 years old, the Melbourne Football Club is quite possibly the oldest football club in the world, you can't just ignore that. Yes football has the highest amount of youngsters playing, but lets be realistic, not many of them are the natural born athletes that the afl and athletics develops. The "girls" argument is still very legit, because many parents see football as a game that their kids wont be injured playing, at my school it was a real life nerds fc, we had about 7 teams, and were struggling for numbers in afl, but our teams still sucked arse...
 

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"football codes"

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hey nice pick up on that Sir Leo, the aussie rules league was a melbourne only affair for ages..
 

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Ero said:
hey nice pick up on that Sir Leo, the aussie rules league was a melbourne only affair for ages..
Thats irrelevant, my point is that aussie rules has a very long history in this country, and people have been calling it football for over a century
 

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Billybob, well it's relavent insofar as your claim that the national league is over 100 years old. U made a mistake, big deal.

Darragh,

that's true, so the Australian FA has finally done away with the term "soccer" and hats off to them. I don't mind if the other codes use football's name to describe their handball sports, as long as football is reffered to as football in ALL media and press where standardisation is of importnce. The first, the original and the only one whose name describes how it's played.
 

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That is why this loooong post season in the A-League is just so crucial. The players should remain in the public eye and be remunerated for promoting the game in schools during this period. They should be visiting as many of them as possible, to sway the kids from the thinkng that "I love playing football on the weekend", but "I love going to watch the AFL and NRL" instead.

Kids need to start thinking that it is equally as good a day out watching your favourite A-League team - they need to get to know the players and the players need to leave a bigger impression on them to ensure they start watching the A-League in bigger numbers. This is why I think a commercial TV deal may become pretty important, so that at least a match of the round is shown free to air.
 

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true, and more public appearences, more heroes to look up to at home etc. maybe a "House of Football" tv show.

They that in NZ, it was da bomb! A pisstake, the lighter sode of football, crazy tackles, good goals, outtakes, making fun of Beckham etc. The football world is so much bigger than all the sports combined, a comedy show with highlights would do wonders for kids. Have presenters who love the game, have a sense of humour and aren't afraid to poke some fun at AFL and NRL..they used to absolutely take the mickey out of Rugby in NZ.

That would make for good viewing, and would find an audience for sure!
 

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Yep all this stuff is good.

The commercial TV deal would also need to be with one of the big three. Preferably not nine as football would need to compete with their cricket coverage space - the game does not need to be live, just shown perhaps on a Sunday morning (Sat game) or Saturday/Sunday night. ABC and SBS just won't cut it, although I know they would do a good job.
 

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Darragh1987 said:
these are some good ideas guys..but as discussed in pervious threads,comercial stations do shit jobs with games!

a comedy like show involving football would be cool tho..
Yeah they do a crap job, but at least they would only fu<k up one game per round! :tongue:
 

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Darragh1987 said:
a comedy like show involving football would be cool tho..
They had little reccuring scetches, Miles Davis was the host and the show was amongst the funniest on television.

They went on a 4 man vacation to Euro 2000, and had a 7-8 min segment from their handycam on every week. Checking out hot chics asses and saying "Look at that totti", "there's a fine totti right there" etc.

They had small highlights, gave away prizes like original adidas Tottenham tops, "because the Jewish Spurs fans all buy fakes anyway"..

Made fun of pansy Italian divers, had the top 5 worst tackles, top 5 passes, top 5 goals, top 5 misses and just poked fun at people from the crowds doing voiceovers etc.

Made of fun of Erricson's accent as he's trying to tell Heskey to "use less negative energy" but keeps repeating "useless ni.gger, useless ni.gger-tive energy Emile!"

The English league was covered, but the ladder always said "The Arse" instead of Arsenal etc.

It was the type of show kids would love, and we could have a cold one and a chuckle...because, hey, fotball is cool after all :)
 

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Ero said:
Billybob, well it's relavent insofar as your claim that the national league is over 100 years old. U made a mistake, big deal.
True, just annoying how one little mistake was picked out from a valid point

Ero said:
that's true, so the Australian FA has finally done away with the term "soccer" and hats off to them.
But isnt the national team still known as "The Socceroos"? :undecide:
 
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