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Alrighty then,since I´m an hockey fan under the blanket,I will make my own official topic about this hockey team of mine.Tommi,if you have any news or something like that about Florida,I would be delighted,if you could post them at this topic. :flirt::)

So who are Florida Panthers then? Well,they are a team that consists of many foreigners.They have for a couple of years now tried to build a team of young players and some experienced players.The problem is that the Murray brothers that was managing them before wasted the team and made several dumbass transfers and wrecked the team. :mad:
Now Florida has a new general manager,which seems to be willing to make a play off team in the future.He seemed very enthusiastic when he bought Florida to me,so that´s great! :)

Florida´s biggest star is Pavel Bure.The bad thing about him is that he is injured a lot.

So anyone that has any questions or something you would like to discuss with me about this team? :hopefull::)
 

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Is Pavel's brother (I think his name is Valeri) still playing with Florida?
 

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Yep,but he as well has been injured for almost the whole season so he has just played like 7 matches or so and when being played has failed to impress.I saw the match against Chicago the other day,where he was pretty much the best player along with Luongo and got a lot of playing time,but he failed to score. :(

I do hope he will regain his form,because the Panthers´ offensive skills is very low and we need all the goal scorers that we can find.
 

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Dallas Stars - FLORIDA PANTHERS 2-3

Match report

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The Florida Panthers erased the memory of a four-game home losing streak by winning their second consecutive road game, beating the Dallas Stars 3-2 at American Airlines Center Friday night. Viktor Kozlov, Marcus Nilson and Niklas Hagman produced the Florida offense, while Trevor Kidd played a strong game in goal, stopping 35 of 37 shots.

Kozlov got the Panthers off to a quick start, scoring on the team’s first shot during a Florida power play. With John Erskine in the Dallas penalty box for tripping Peter Worrell, Kozlov - stationed above the left face-off circle - waited for Pierre Dagenais to screen Stars goalie Ed Belfour, then ripped a shot into the upper right corner. Nilson and Valeri Bure assisted on the play. Kidd held the lead through the first 20 minutes, stopping all 15 Dallas shots in a spirited period in which three fights occurred.

Dallas responded to tie the game very early in the second period. With Kozlov in the penalty box for holding Joe Nieuwendyk just 23 seconds into the period, the Stars went on the power play and converted at the one-minute mark. Kirk Muller shook free from the Panthers defense and stuffed in the rebound of a Sergei Zubov shot to knot the game at 1-1.

Florida regained the advantage just 34 seconds after a holding penalty on Brad Ference expired. Lance Ward sent a nifty pass that sprung Nilson on a one-on-one against Dallas defenseman Darryl Sydor. Nilson couldn’t race by Sydor, but he chipped the puck over the Stars defender’s stick, passing to himself. The pass brought Belfour out to try to poke check Nilson, but the puck bounced high in the air. Nilson waited for the puck to drop, then swatted a backhand past Belfour for the go-ahead goal at the 11:57 mark.

Hagman added insurance at 17:33 of the middle session when he made a nice move to shake Sydor, then beat Belfour from the slot area. The Panthers took a 3-1 lead into the dressing room after two periods, despite being out-shot 25-13. Olli Jokinen and Ference assisted.

Dallas tried to make it interesting by pulling Belfour for an extra attacker early, then scored during a six-on-four power play as Zubov’s point shot trickled through Kidd at the 18:39 mark of the third. Kidd kept the equalizer off the board however, earning “first star” honors for the contest. His best stops of the night came from close in, as he robbed Pierre Turgeon, Nieuwendyk (twice) and Richard Matvichuk.

Bill Lindsay was a force for Florida on the checking line. Pressed into service as a centerman, Lindsay won eight of 11 faceoffs (72%) and notched a game high five hits in 12:06 of ice time.

The Panthers don’t have long to enjoy the victory over Dallas, as the team will be back in action Saturday night at National Car Rental Center to face the Atlanta Thrashers at 7:30 p.m.


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Wohoo!!!!! :star:

This was really surprising and the most surprising thing was that Keenan plated Trevor Kidd in this match. :eek:
Especially since Luongo was quite impressing the last match against Chicago.But who cares as long as we won?! :happy:

Beating Dallas shows that this team is able to be very good when they are having their days.They just need to be consistent and shoot more on the goals to be able to score once in a while.
 

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right wing Pavel Bure will play Monday against Montreal after missing five games with a fractured left hand.

Bure will wear a protective molding over his left hand, team spokesman Randy Sieminski said Sunday.

Bure has not yet decided whether he will play for the Russian Olympic team in Salt Lake City next month.
 

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BURE what a player

He could be a legend if not for his stuck up attitude !!!

He doesn't play defence and it suck !! This is coming from a Canucks fans :rolleyes: Unbelievable HUH:eek: :eek:
 

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Im a sports nut....but baseball and ice hockey dont do a thing for me.........

At any rate...I was a Season Ticket holder with the Miami Fusion...and The Panthers sent all of us a letter and two free tickets for an up coming home game in Sunrise...(very nice gesture on their part).

Since its free Im going to use it and give Ice Hockey another change...I saw the Panthers 3 or 4 times B4 they moved from Miami to Broward and I wasnt impressed at all..

Maybe this time it will work !! I'll let you know guys which game and when this will take place.

Saludos !!!!!!! :cap:
 

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Trading pricey Bure is a good move for him and for the Panthers

DAN LE BATARD / COMMENTARY/Miami Herald

So now the last good reason to go to a Panthers game leaves South Florida, a bolt of lightning headed to New York. Pavel Bure, an artist and a star, packs up his gifts and takes them a little closer to the playoffs. Analysis can complicate trades like this, making them about heavy subjects like economics and chemistry, but Panthers interim GM Chuck Fletcher articulated why this trade was made with five simple syllables Monday night.

''We have been awful,'' he said, accurately enough.

Bure was a diamond in a dumpster here, a Picasso hanging in a trailer home. Keeping him made as much sense as driving a Ferrari over to the welfare office. It is good that he is going, for him and for this franchise, although the Panthers ought to just forfeit the rest of this season. Fans don't want to hear about the future. When team executives start talking too much about the future, it is always because they don't want you looking too closely at their present.

The Panthers wasted Bure's three years here, completely. They won exactly as many playoff games with him as they would have won if their right wing had been Oprah Winfrey. This tells you how flawed this team is, and how much in need of an overhaul: Even with Bure making that red light go off better than anyone in hockey, the Panthers have won zero playoff games with him -- in a sport, no less, in which everybody makes the playoffs, including franchises that no longer exist and some soccer teams.

Why do you trade Bure? Well, because the Panthers are only better than Atlanta and Columbus, which have had franchises for about seven minutes. You can do that poorly without Bure and his $10-million-a-year contract. The Panthers have won 19 games. They'd have to win 19 straight games just to get over .500. You need not be very smart, or even have a functioning brain, to see that all of Bure's scoring doesn't appear to be helping them very much.

''Team game,'' coach Mike Keenan said. ``You need the right ingredients in the right roles.''

One man doesn't carry a team in hockey, not unless he happens to be protecting the goal in the playoffs. Washington traded for Jaromir Jagr and is under .500. Calgary has the league's leading scorer and isn't over .500, either. Phoenix lost all its stars in the offseason and is now a better team, and with half the payroll. The Panthers of Brian Skrudland, a faceless team without star power, taught us while knocking Jagr and Mario Lemieux out of the playoffs that chemistry is more important in this sport than any of the others.

That said, you wish the Panthers could have gotten a little more for a superstar of Bure's caliber. All they received was a young minor-leaguer (Filip Novak) and an older player (Igor Ulanov), the latter of whom can't be very good if he's as an 11-year veteran who had spent time in the Rangers' minor-league system. The first-round pick the Panthers got from New York? The better Bure plays for the Rangers, the lower it will drop for the Panthers.

The key to this deal was not Novak, no matter how good an offensive defenseman he promises to be, and no matter how rare offensive defensemen are. The key was freeing up Bure's salary to spend elsewhere, and in more than one place. This team hasn't won any more with Keenan than it did without him. Kennan hasn't lost like this since his first year as a coach. He needs more pieces, a lot more.

Fletcher probably should have waited right up until today's 3 p.m. trading deadline, hoping a desperate team would push more to the center of the table, but here's why he didn't: He didn't want to get stuck with Bure, as odd as that sounds. The Panthers are, in their own way, just as desperate as the Rangers, who are fighting for a playoff spot and are pretty much in a perpetual state of desperation.

The Panthers need help all over the ice except in goal, and teams might not be as eager to trade for him in the offseason, when they could get a top free agent by simply writing a check without having to trade anyone. They were going to be trading Bure, period. If the Rangers pull out -- and there weren't that many teams bidding for Bure -- then you still have a 19-win team and probably don't get a better offer in the offseason.

''We have multiple needs,'' Fletcher said, which is not unlike Enron saying it has multiple concerns.

Better to let Detroit and its 57 Hall of Famers win the championship this year and regroup for future fights, building around goalie Roberto Luongo.

We never really got to know Bure, polite and accessible as he was. He wouldn't let us. He was the most private athlete in South Florida sports, even as he dated Anna Kournikova. He revealed very little, dancing around even the most benign questions. He made the red light go off. That's all he cared for you to see.

Keenan and Fletcher kept talking about the ''electricity'' Bure brought to the ice, using that word over and over, and now that he leaves they might as well turn off the power at their new arena for the rest of this season. But this trade promises to bring more winning later, at least partially because, mathematically at least, it is very hard to win less.

Lost electricity?

Winning, all by itself, is electricity enough.

Bure, all by himself, was not.

:mute: $$$$$ :mute:
 

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and Florida´s situaton only get worst...The Florida Panthers recalled goalie Wade Flaherty from Utah of the AHL Thursday after learning starting goalie Roberto Luongo will be out for the season while rehabbing a torn ligament in his ankle.

Right wing Valeri Bure will also be out for the season after deciding to have surgery to repair cartilage damage in his right knee. Bure was injured in a game March 17 at Ottawa.


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Well,the season is over for Florida anyway and it seems as they are trying to start from scratch when the next season starts. The trades they have made before this transfer deadline has been beyond pathetic and I really can´t believe what we have done. I think I was wrong about this general manager after all. :depress:

Out

Pavel Bure - RW
Jeff Norton - D
Darren Van Impe - D
Bill Lindsay - LW

In

Igor Ulanov - D
Filip Novak - D


Very very pathetic from Chuck Fletcher. :sigh:

We can barely get any lineups as it is right now. :eek:

I think we should play kind like this now (from left to right) :

First line

Huselius - Jokinen - Hagman

Ozolinsh - Svehla


Second line

Nilson - Wiemer - Novoseltsev

Pitlick - Ference


Third line

Beaudoin - Ritchie - Dagenais

Ulanov - Tetarenko


Checking line

Worrell - Smith - Norton

Keeper

Trevor Kidd


Oh wow! It´s almost like Detroit. :rolleyes: This is kinda the team that we are forced to play with for the rest of this season. With the two best players injured (Kozlov and Bure) and one of the NHL´s best keeper injured (Luongo) this IS the players we have left. :eek:
Not even I know a couple of these names. :embarass:

I seriously hope that we will this summer start making some smart trades. :rolleyes:
 

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Only Florida´s first line looks pretty good..others suck...right?
I think Keenan will buy some good players for next season if he is still then Florida´s head coach.
 

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Well,actually none of the lineups are that impressing. Huselius and Hagman are both rookies and inconsistent and Jokinen was that supertalent that never become that great.

Right now it´s Wiemer and Ritchie that impresses the most for us. Huselius and Nilson occasionally bring some outstanding performances as well.

Defensively we are covered,but it´s offensively that we really suck and why I can´t understand why we traded away Bure for two defenders.

Florida Panthers just needs a future plan. Their plan seems to be trade all the good players away for future draft. What they don´t understand is that very small number of players that have been involved with the future draft has eventually not even made it to the real team. So we are practically giving away good players for nothing,one example of that is Ray Whitney who we traded away last season for a future draft. But that was the Murray brothers who did that. :rolleyes:
First of all we need some goalscorers. I figured we could trade some goalscorers with Lindsay,but I was wrong. :rolleyes:

Atleast it sounds refreshing that Fletcher has said that they will build their future around Roberto Luongo. I´m gonna piss all over them if they would trade him away. It just sucks he costed us Mark Parrish. :doh:
 

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That Whitney deal was just disaster..what were thay thinking...those loosers.;)
Hope you sell Ozolinsh back to Avs after this season.:hopefull:
 

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Screw you. :tongue:

And the Panthers aren´t thinking when it comes to trades. The last trades gotta tip you off. :rolleyes:
Here´s another typical transfer that we have made during the years:

Florida had a player named Ryan Johnson. Kinda decent and all. Last season Florida trades away him to the Tampa Bay in exchange for Mike Sillinger. Sillinger when he arrives to Florida are one of the better players. Before the transfer deadline we trade Sillinger away to Ottawa. We also had traded in Vaclav Prospal at the same time,who is quite a good player.

So now we have lost Danny Hay (who was involved with the Sillinger trade as well), Ryan Johnson, Mike Sillinger (the one we traded away Johnson for) and we had received Vaclav Prospal. That are 3 players that we lost and 1 player that we gained.
But that´s not it....

Before the start of this season we do something else. We trade back Ryan Johnson (!!!) in exchange for Vaclav Prospal and give away a future draft as well. So now we had lost players and gained none,because the player that we once traded away was brought back and we traded him back for a player that is even better than him.

So this became the outcome:

Florida Panthers:

Won: Ryan Johnson
Lost: Mike Sillinger, Vaclav Prospal, Danny Hay and two future drafts

The bug here is that Ryan Johnson used to be a Panther anyway

Ottawa Senators:

Won: Mike Sillinger and future draft
Lost: Vaclav Prospal

Tampa Bay Lightening:

Won: Vaclal Prospal, Danny Hay and a future draft
Lost: Ryan Johnson and Mike Sillinger


Conclution: Florida Panthers were the big losers in these trades that I have manually looked up and followed. They traded some players that were good but ends up with trading them away for a player they already owned a year earlier and isn´t even that good and have been injured this whole season.

Yet again another example of the stupidity the Panthers have when it comes to trades. :irritate:
 

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Man, I always disagree with Dan Le Batard:D :fero:

The Rangers are really stocked now, at least with some big names.
 
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