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Well, here goes: (I suppose after this I will deserve the Real Madrid forum medal :) )
That is, if Jan doesn’t ban me after such a long post... ;)

From Marca Digital ( http://www.marca.es )

I have spent all my life with interviewing magical giants. From Mick Jagger to Paul McCartney, Bono, Bob Dylan, Madonna… And I only know one thing: Camacho is a star. As big as they are, as important as the biggest one. We won’t lose him.
The idea of making a long interview with Jose Antonio Camacho left me a bit surprised but I didn’t elude the challenge. Since I knew his personality, I knew that he wasn’t in for lots of talk. And I confess that I was wrong. Camacho showed me that being a friend for a long time serves for something.
I called him on Monday.

"Jose, I want to talk to you for Marca but I need time for a calm talk."
The answer surprised me: "Whenever you want and however you want it. Should we do it tomorrow in your place? Well, I think it’s marvelous. Come on, tell me where you live."
The next morning we were in my house, I put on a Minidisc and started the conversation. And I’m saying conversation because I didn’t have any questions prepared. It looked more like a talk between friends and he also took it like that wholeheartedly.

-Tell me the truth, how do you feel, a bit depressed, frustrated?
-Oh no, no. I am very well. We played all four games to win, we dominated them. We lost two of them unfairly. Now we’re at home. I have done everything I could. The opponent plays as well.

-I called doctor Gonzalez Ruano yesterday and he told me that you moved him. He told me that after the defeat from France you thanked one by one all the players, the whole selection. And that there was emotion, sparks of feelings.
-This is true. I am grateful to all of them, they did the most they could. And I know how they had arriver at the gathering. I know how a Spanish player is like in the month of June. And very well.

-You don’t have complaints for anyone, for sure. But some of them must have surprised you in a bad way and others in a good way.
-I’m not going to speak badly of anybody. And it’s the truth. If you had seen the atmosphere we had… This is a war. The media want something to happen. We don’t want anything to happen. We were like that. And it was delightful in there.

-And the pressure? I know that you were nervous, doubtful…
-Oh no, no. The only pressure was losing the game against Norway because of a mistake. And it costs to play the whole tournament up front. But nothing else.

-You are not going to confess that you were wrong, at least one or two times?
-No, no, I was not wrong. If we hadn’t dominated the games, if we had looked like "martians" or asleep, I would tell you that I was wrong. But it wasn’t like that.

-Not even with Valeron and Aranzabal...?
-We already knew that in such a Tournament there were bound to be changes. Look at Aranzabal. The other day they were telling me that nobody understood the reason why I didn’t start Sergi. And the explanation is very easy. Sergi goes up to the front a lot and it this game I didn’t want the wingers to go up front attacking because with a pass from Zidane to Henry they would have killed me. Moreover, with such "beasts" like Thuram, Blanc and Desailly I needed tall players for the high balls. Aranzabal looks taller than Sergi to me, doesn’t he?

-You didn’t give a single order when you saw Raul taking the ball to hit the penalty.
-No, nothing. I noticed that Alfonsito also wanted to take it. And maybe Guardiola. But Raul dared to do it. He was decided and I let him. Something else would have happened if Mendieta was still on the field. He have established that penalties are for a specialist. If in that case I had seen Raul wanting to take it, I would have stopped him and would have ordered for Mendieta to take it.

-Excuse me Jose, but why did you take Mendieta out?
-He was very tired. Had played already three games in an incredible rhythm. I saw him a bit hurt. In these moments, as you can understand, I wasn’t thinking of penalties or golden goal. The only thing I knew was that we could beat the French.

-I think that you were certain of winning the French
-Well yes, I confess. But as you can see I was wrong.

-If you had won, what team would you have started against Portugal? Would Molina play?
-Well probably yes. Look, I don’t know. The fact is that it’s all over.

-The national team you like the most is France, isn’t it ?
-Yes because it’s a team with great tactics. And in the end the future of football is tactics. You know what player I like most? Emerson, the Brazilian. He always knows where to place the ball, when to commit a foul, to evaluate the positional situations of the teams. He is phenomenal. Di Stefano was always saying: when you miss an opportunity, commit a foul immediately after because they can surprise us… When we hit a corner I’m always concerned of the defense because if we score a goal, then we have to celebrate. And what if they score immediately in a counter-attack? France is very good at this.

-Let me at least tell you that you were mistaken in not taking a forward like Morientes...
-Well, OK. I was wrong. I accept it. But we have scored seven goals. Seven. It wasn’t bad at all. And before, Urzaiz always played that role successfully.

-Maybe you were afraid of the insecurity, the depression that hits Morientes when he doesn’t score.
-I don’t know… I don’t know him that well. But he has always been a good guy for the National. For sure I couldn’t take eighty players and you can also count Guerrero in the mistakes but I couldn’t fit in all of them.

-For sure, you were pretty cruel towards Molina...
-And I wasn’t cruel to Canizares, not starting him in the first game?

-Well, you have always liked Canizares better.
-But I also like Molina. And Casillas.

-You didn’t want to put pressure on the youngster?
-No, I only thought that Canizares and Molina were better options for the team.

-It caught my attention that the day of the game against France Hierro asked you to play and you didn’t let him. We are always suspicious that he is only interested in playing…
-Attention. Hierro was not to play. And wouldn’t have played against Portugal if we had passed. Hierro would have been in my disposal only if we had reached the final. What happened? Hierro was something like the talisman of Madrid. He had to play a lot of games without having fully recovered. Only because it was necessary. And now he’s paying for it. But I think that he has a lot of football years ahead.

There’s one thing characteristic in Camacho. The deepness of the look. Sometimes with a smile, sometimes with a touch of passion, another of timidity, of enthusiasm.

-Why do you think Anelka didn’t play?
-Because they had respect for us, no more, no less and they know that Dugarry is more of a fighter and that with Spain they could have problems.

-As a madridista, you’d stick with Anelka?
-Me yes, for sure. He is a great player. You know what happens? In today’s football they want to have a quick return for the money invested in a big transfer. In the case of Anelka I think we should have waited for three seasons patiently for us to be able to get the return of our investment.

-And you would have waited?
-Yes, I think I would.

-It seems to me that you speak like a Real Madrid coach a lot of times, as if you knew that you’re going to be one. I am convinced that you want it and that you are going to accomplish it.
-Well, it’s possible, but the Real Madrid thing has already happened to me and I have already explained it many times.

-Has anybody asked you to become a Real Madrid coach?
-Yes, Lorenzo Sanz, when all that mess occured.

-About five months ago?
-Maybe more, I don’t remember, but I told the truth. I said I had given my word to the Federation and I was going to keep it. I am not thinking of Real Madrid at the time, it’s like a train that has passed me.

-Has Florentino asked you also these days?
-Well no, maybe because he already knows the answer. I am very happy being the coach of the National team. I like it and I’m tied to it.

-Who do you support, Lorenzo or Florentino?
-I am a madridista and that’s it. The election wars have nothing to do with me. They are not going to get a single word from me.

-You want to wait for Real Madrid?
-I know that my time will come, I’ll wait.

Who doubts that Camacho’s life is football?
-I can’t imagine myself doing something else, on top of that I think that you resist any profession or weird thing that happens in your life and leaves you the feeling of wasting your time.

-And the Internet?
-I like it, but I think it’s the quality of pages that exist on football is bad, they are telling so many lies. I know that there are some pages of myself and I have nothing to do with them.

-Your own page would mean a lot.
-It’s possible, but I didn’t have the time. On top of that, if I had a page of my own, I wouldn’t have given this big interview, it would have been in my page.

-Is it true that you had forbidden the press from the training sessions?
-I hadn’t forbidden them, I just recommended that they shouldn’t be there. It could affect them.

-It didn’t affect you ?
-I’m already cured from this fear. I’m not interested in criticism, I only care about the ones that present reasonable arguments on my being wrong and them right.

-The war from the media has an effect on how things are ?
-It affects them enough because it can destroy coaches, players and administratives. I am not interested in listeners that have this or that. What I want is not to be affected, neither myself, nor my environment. This is going to change soon. More that we think.

-Were you displeased with "enough of Guardiola"?
-I saw that it was unfair because Guardiola was guilty of nothing. But in the end they have to sell.

-You are not "untouchable" any more...
-This makes me laugh. Well, I can be touched. Let’s see what happens next.
 

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You are a God HALA! Thank you so much, I'll comment tonight after the game, right now I'm going to watch a movie! God bless you Hala! :D :cool: :cool: Hala for president!:D
 

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You'll watch a movie instead of the semi????? :confused:

You really have me puzzled...

ALLEZ LES BLEUS!
ALLEZ LES BLEUS!
ALLEZ LES BLEUS!


Could you drop in a prayer for my team's victory? PLEASE???


P.S. Whoooooops! I've got it now.

[Edited by hala on 28-06-2000 at 20:35]
 
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Thanks for the translation! It was spot-on!

That match tonight was just bullsh*t. That's two matches in a row that France should not have had. =(((((
 

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It was a short movie just before the game. Do you really think I was gonna resign from the semisfinal!:confused: Come on! Anyway now that the game is over I'm depressed, because the French once again won unfairly:mad: Henry's goal came after an offside from Anelka and the penalty, well you judge it yourself - if Xavier really wanted to stop a ball that was never gonna go in with his hand, I'm Santa Claus:D Too bad for justice and fuc*k UEFA - their referees are worth nothing. I'm so sad for Portugal, they have been IMO cheated today. But it will make a more entertaining final:)
 

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Thx Hala! :)...it is really cool to have a chance to read the whole interview.

As all other presses which are in English, they just focus on the Mori's part, and it made me think Camacho really realise his mistake......after I read this full version, I didn't see so much regret from Camacho about the wrong pick. :mad:

About the match today....ARGHHHHHHHHHH....Portugal lost at the last 5 minute, how unfortunately....though it actually was a tie-play, I hate France was damned lucky so far...
 
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No kidding Labas... I spent the entire match howling at the television. Offsides, crap calls and that penalty. The papers here say that Xavier had stuck his hand out to get it. Please.... Xavier was totally motionless when the ball hit him. Bullsh*t call in golden goal football, especially when the prize is a berth in a major championship final. =(

I can't say that I would have done any different than Gomes after the match. =( Too bad that their coach already stepped down.

What got me is after the match, Desailly said "it had nothing to do with luck. we clearly demonstrated that we were the stronger team". prick.

Their arrogance amazes me.
 

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Since I'm the "God" just for one day, I'd like to kindly ask from you all to post your comments about last night's game in the Portugese forum. Just for this one day.

Consider it as a personal favor. Please.
 
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Allright God, where were you last night then ? Don't tell me that the French are your chosen people because everyone here is atheist =)=) =)

no problems, I'll manoeuvre my complaints about last night over there. especially out of respect for your translation =))
 

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Actually the French are indeed my chosen ones, considering the fact that I'm half French myself.

I was the first one last night to post that it was a sad way to do it (in the Euro2000 forum). And I had also forseen the fact that there would be people in denial, well, this wouldn't make a difference to me since I had no intention of visiting the Portugese forum anyway. I would never gloat on a Team that impressed me as much.


But I really don't want to have to argue over it in the Real Madrid forum and that's all really.
 
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Don't worry I'm not going to argue with you on the aesthetics of last night's match, mais appelons un chat un chat. Le resultat était bidon. =))

Back on to topic: What do you think the fate of Camacho will be? I don't think they'll can him but I think his day of reckoning will be the WC qualifiers....
 

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Nous ne serons JAMAIS d'accord sur la definition du "chat" mon ami. J'ai seulement dit triste, pas injuste.

I think most probably Camacho will be the Spanish National coach in the WC2002, unless something happens that has to do with his temper. Why? Well, I don't think he faces an enormously negative criticism back home, I have the idea that a considerable percentage of the Spanish crowd don't blame him really. It would have been a different story if Spain had been eliminated in the Group Stage...

So, the team goes with Camacho to the WC preliminaries and I expect them to qualify. When didn't they? If everything goes according to plan I guess they'll never change coach for the Tournament.
 
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I completely agree with you re: Camacho. He still seems to be the obvious choice. He made some questionable decisions but he is human, and he still seems the best choice for Spain.

We'll see if he can learn from his mistakes. I personally don't see the need to drop him. Besides, who would replace him and get a team ready for the qualifiers in so little time?
 

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I dunno about Camacho. He's OK< I guess, but I am a bit dissapointed with the interview. I think he made much more mistakes than he admits and the quate: "scoring 7 goals isn't that bad" is really laughable, especially considering how Alfonso played!:( ABout Portugal losing, well i can get over it, but now tha Italy has won, this final is the most boring game I'll ever watch. Poor Dutch, again the penalties and again God is not Dutch:mad:
 
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No kidding. This final is going to be l-a-m-e. In whole, what a disappointing championship. A questionable call in one semi-final and penalty kicks in the other. For me, this is not interesting football.

As for Camacho, let's hope someone knocks some more sense in to him.
 

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SI SI SI SI SIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!

Whooooops! Sorry guys, that one slipped out :D :D :D


On Camacho now, I second to that Pablo. On the other hand, I'd choose him any time over Clemente.
 
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Exactly hala.... No more Clemente! Even if I'm not always in agreement in Camacho's decisions and his tactics or seleccion choices, like him I like to see football played on the attack and not by the defense.
 

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Don't we all like Camacho more than Clemente!?:D

Oh and pablo, why do you think these have been boring European Championships? IMO they were the best I've ever seen, maybe France 98 was better, but only, because the whle tournament was longer and there was simply more games to watch:D I think the tournament has been awesome and the level of play absolutely superb. Too bad this is the third time, I watch a final, I don't give a hoot about:mad: (EURO 96 GER-CZE, who cares!?; France 98 - FRA-BRA, who cares?!, and now FRA - ITA, who cares!? :mad: - that sux big time:mad)!!!!
 
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To be honest with you Labas I think my attitude comes from some of the officiating and like you said a big who cares about the finalists.

I can deal with a valid 1-0 win. But, some of these calls and giving penalties in the 90th minute that would have decided games (granted I liked it when it went for my team twice :D )

There have been some quality matches but I'm a bitter dude! :)

For every great match there has been a royal stinker. I mean I though France-Portugal was sizing up nicely until the end. That totally killed it for me.
 

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I agree with you Pablo, especially on the POR -FRA game, I mean it was so, so cool! It was such a great game, with flowing football and you really were hoping for something spectacular, simply amazing to happen, either from Figo or Zidane. I just had the feeling one of them would single handedly win the game....and then game that moment. For all I care Xavier could've stopped the ball on his goal-lin with his hands(well maybe not exactly:), but the call was just such SH|T! :mad: the game was ruined and it was the most pathetic way to end such a match, a penalty three minutes from penalties themself. I know it's not fair to say the ref shouldn't have given the penalty, because it just wasn't right, but unlike the HOL-CZE this was not a clear penalty...how could the linesman have seen wether or not Abel did that intentionally...like you I think it all stinks:mad: and now the final is just such crap:mad:
 
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