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As all of you know very well, Brazil is the country that exports more football players in the world. Besides that, their players often are the best. In this summer we will have a busy transfer market, and we have been rumoured with some Brazilians.

In this thread I want to have a serious debate that could even help us Inter fans learn more about the game, I have invited 2 very knowledgable guys on the brazilian league to be our Brazilians ambassadors to the Inter forum. Our special Guest are Roberto Gallo and Patrick.

We have many threads were everything is fun and games, but in this one I dont want to see any bashing, or shallow observations about the topic being discussed. Please present your arguments in a respectful manner, based on well thought logical reasoning(state the reasons behind your opinion).

Everyone knows how Inter lacks a true 10, and Diego keeps been linked to us, now It makes us wonder, is Diego the best playmaker Inter could get out of brazil? Are there other options? Can we get a better player in another position?
 

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Diego? :eek:

Very interesting player. He's had one amazing season in his life and people still think he's going to be the next big thing. Sure, he's got potential and he's a good playmaker but he won't have half the impact that Kaka has had in the Serie A. Why you ask? He's too slow and cocky. He's a poor man's Riquelme. Ofcourse, he's a great player but you could get much better.

Understand that I'm being very critical of Diego, though. I'd take Robinho over him if I was Inter because Robinho has body problems, but Diego's speed is a huge liability. I dislike his attitude too, he thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread.

He lost alot of respect from Brazilians during the Olympics, he was utter crap. Kaka once again showed why he is the best Brasilian youngster is a class above Diego.

If you take Diego, don't take him this summer. He's got some stuff to learn.
 

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diego is way too young...i don't know if he's ready for serie A or not...but i wouldn't mind if spurs got him.. :D if we have $$$, i'd take aimar/vdv/rosicky...not sure about deco...
 

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Yes. There are better options. Or at least, there is a better option.

Alex is a genious. He's a player who reached maturity, one who knows how to wait the moment to shine in a game and always search for the most simple thing. The extraordinary player is the one who can make the most complicated thing easy. Totti is one example and Alex is another. Both also have similar styles, they don't come near the DMs and carry the ball, like Rui Costa, but even then they are capable of dictate the rythim of a game with few touches on the ball. They know exactly what to do in the field.

Diego didn't reach this level yet, and maybe will never be a player like that because he is a different kind. But styles apart, Diego has some weaknesses which will certainly be ironed out with time. He still carries the ball too much and his physical structure isn't exactly perfect suited for the Italian game. He also lacks the extra quality of taking free-kicks like Alex does, or shot like Kaká. But this is just a detail if we consider that incredible players like Zidane and Rui Costa aren't especialists in these areas as well.

What Diego doesn't lack is talent. The kid isn't rated as highly as he is for nothing. He shows an incredible reading of the game and ability to make a game flow that no one in his age in the world does. His touch is just different, and any football fan can tell this watching him play for five minutes.

Anyway, the Santos wonderkid still needs some time and peace, which he will certainly not find in Inter when he arrives. A lot of people mention Kaká as an example of how a young brazilian can come to Serie A and have an imediate impact. But is important to mention that Kaká is two years older (a difference which counts a lot in this age) and always had a different behaviour. Kaká has an impressive maturity not even in the football world, but also in society. He is already a man who can be a leader even in a team full of starts. I have never seen the former São Paulo player going to a TV football show and cry after his failures. Kaká always was very skilled and intelligent do deal with pressure and media.

It's also worth saying that Inter and Milan are two clubs which pass for very different situations, and this certainly reflect in the players, especially the younger ones. Kaká went to Milan as a player for the future, and had immediate impact, but Diego would probably arrive in Inter to solve the problem and would end up being nothing more than a promise.

That's why I say: the man for Inter is Alex.
 

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Kaká went to Milan as a player for the future, and had immediate impact, but Diego would probably arrive in Inter to solve the problem and would end up being nothing more than a promise.

Nice post Roberto! :cool:

I've quoted some part of it. This applies to every Inter player from what we have seen in the past decade. ;)

Inter should stop investing in potential talents and good players for once and gamble with a superstar crack for once. Not good players but the best available Real Madrid style!

They don't have a leader in midfield. A Diego or Alex won't solve that IMO due to the extreme pressure of deliverance heaped upon them!! They need a crack. Any other move would backfire in their face just like it has happened for the past decade!

They need a leader in midfield who controls the game rather than a potential world class talent or good player who won't solve it for them. A bomb transfer is needed. Nothing else can possibly solve it. Last time they won the Scudetto they had bombs in their team. Matthaus, Brehme and Klinsmann. Now it is Emre, Recoba and a washed up Vieri and they expect results! :D

Player to Buy: Totti or Aimar

Anything below is a waste of money considering Inter's situation. Inter didn't need Stankovic. I said this even before they would get him that it would be a bad move as he is not good enough. One good season with Lazio and they chase him.

One more thing. I've noticed that Inter fans overrate their players. Even their site does it. Listen to the player comments pre-game and post-game. It is not the attitude of winners.

A player's real worth is how much he is respected by the opponents. Some Interisti overrate their players when the opponents count them as liabilities! Ask anybody around on the forums that if they were given a choice of players then who would they pick from the Inter squad?? Golden question! That is the real worth of Inter's players in people's minds when most probably everybody will say Adriano and maybe some will say Stankovic. Other than that nothing. Compare the same with other squads around the world and ask the same question.

Dare I say anything against Vieri, Recoba, C. Zanetti? :tongue:

There is a huge amount of liabilities in Inter earning good money but not even repaying even 1/3rd of it! :eek:

Throwing them out should be the move not praising them. The standard has to be raised. It is not on par with other big sides in world football.
 

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The problem with Signing alex is that he already went t o europe and for whatever reasons (fair or unfair) he did not cause impact and had to pack his bags and return to brazil. He is sort of an ex convict and as a talented as he is teams will have a prejuiced against him doesnt matter if its fair or unfair.

Suppose Inter choose Alex of Aimar, but Alex gets Injured or fails again, the public embaressment will be even greater than it has been, the first one to make fun of Inter will be brazilian fans claiming we ruin good players.

Media will eat Moratti alive for trusting a rejected player, sure if he rules like Kaka will be an awsome move, however that wont garantee a title, so the risk with Alex from a public relation stand point its greater, than if we buy a Totti, aimar kind.

Diego at least doesnt have that background and he could just not develop further, at least he had the hype, but if we sign Alex and he fails we are putting our a bigger target on our back.
 

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nice one SAC, this is a good thread. Finally, we can talk football without other unpleasant elements.

We have to let the players to mature. Inter cannot afford space and time. That's why i dont know if nuturing a young player and offload him would be a good idea, ie, pirlo, ferrari, mutu, adriano
 

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nice one SAC, this is a good thread. Finally, we can talk football without other unpleasant elements.

We have to let the players to mature. Inter cannot afford space and time. That's why i dont know if nuturing a young player and offload him would be a good idea, ie, pirlo, ferrari, mutu, adriano
We simply dont have the time or money to fool around with imports. We need proven European coomodities from eng spain or italy only
 

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I have moved all the unpleasent posts to the nonsense thread. Please just give us this thread to talk without bashing
 

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inter does have time, why wouldnt they? i dont know how to solve inters problems, but doing what youve been doing years isnt the solution. youve had a high turnover for a long time now and it isnt working.

obviously theres issues in defence. noone really knows what happened to cannavaro, he just hasnt been the player he once was.

stankovic is a good building block for midfield. hes at a relatively young age and theres a lot to expect of him. karagounis is a good player and you should use him while on his good form. hes also at a good age and he needs to be incorporated into the team.

adriano is a good building block for the offence. hes sputtering a bit but everybody goes through that.

recoba should be sold. its been long enough and things just arent working out. he does well in spurts but he doesnt deliver what his talent promises. you dont need to be hoping that he delivers as every match comes along.

a few new players might be good but that shouldnt be the focus. you should focus first on strengthening what you already have and then add to it.
 

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One disturbing thought is that I just read that Marco Branca became the transfer Market top official because he is friends with Moratti´s oldest son Angelo who suggested to his dad the hiring of Branca :( If these are the way things are done inside Inter there is no wonder why we suck so much, there is no sense of profesionality or business like atmosphere.
 

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Roberto one question. Who is it that great players like Mancini and Daniel Alves are able to move to europe cheaply, I mean everyone knew about Kaka, but who are those emergining not as famous but great Brazilian prospects?
 

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Luigi Vampa said:
inter does have time, why wouldnt they? i dont know how to solve inters problems, but doing what youve been doing years isnt the solution. youve had a high turnover for a long time now and it isnt working.

obviously theres issues in defence.

stankovic is a good building block for midfield.
adriano is a good building block for the offence.

recoba should be sold.

a few new players might be good but that shouldnt be the focus. you should focus first on strengthening what you already have and then add to it.
Time is not on our side as we see other italian clubs in finantial crisis. There should be no doubt in our minds that moratti has been looking at his expenses during the summer, where he had to hold out to sign players like Chivu. We are also waiting for the Real money and I don't even know if that income can be converted into transfer money, it might just cover some of our previous expenses.

The wage problem isn't working out either; we have the highest payed players without getting results. If money were to equal success, then the amount we've spend should have rewarded us with several trophies. We seriously need to get into the Champions League and start winning those matches, the sum can turn over a club dramatically.

The fans are also growing impatient. I don't know how long the inter faithfuls are willing to stick through the crisis and they can potentially boycott, killing the attendence. Poor performance also diminish TV broadcast rights and that could make a difference as well.

The problem, is not the players. We can get whoever we want and we will still result in failure. The club structure is ran but rich amatures and their lack of understand of professional football makes them incompetant to their duties. I dont know whether they treat inter the club as a business or as something more because obviously their people (player to staff) skills are limited. Players are complaining directly to the club's communication skills and their handling methods--something you won't see in a well constructed organization.

Clinging to the 4th spot can only bring us so far into generating money. If our club don't turn around within 5 years, we will have to expect the worst.
 

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Inter, a un passo c'¨¨ il giovane Ederson: sar¨¤ il Kak¨¤ nerazzurro

L¡¯Inter ¨¨ a un passo da Ederson Honorato Campos, brasiliano di 18 anni che in tanti paragonano a Kak¨¤. La societ¨¤ milanese ha gi¨¤ avanzato una sua offerta all¡¯Internacional di Porto Alegre (la squadra in cui milita il centrocampista): la trattativa dovrebbe andare in porto per una cifra vicina ai 5 milioni di euro. L¡¯operazione ¨¨ stata condotta dal direttore tecnico nerazzurro Marco Branca che ha anticipato il Chelsea di Roman Abramovich. I Blues vantavano un¡¯opzione su Ederson scaduta lo scorso gennaio. Fattisi nuovamente avanti hanno trovato la sorpresa Inter che ormai deve solo definire alcuni dettagli.

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who is ederson??? :confused:
 

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I asked Roberto About him, and he doesnt know so probably this is a fake rumour
 

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Excuse me but It was me who Invited Patrick here, and thanks to you and Handoyo a very promising thread was turned into a fight against Patrick.
 

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Don't ever step in this forum again Patrick. We don't want you.

Will you grow up? I don't give a flying shit if you don't want me to post. Don't speak for the others because it was your moderator that asked me if me and my friend Roberto would make a thread about the Brazilian youth but obviously that isn't possible with ignorant posters like yourself.
 
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