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Man City v Man Utd

City of Manchester Stadium
Sunday, 13 February
Kick-off: 1300 GMT


Steve McManaman is set to make a rare start for Manchester City in place of the suspended Paul Bosvelt.

Manager Kevin Keegan's other option for the Manchester derby is to play Antoine Sibierski alongside Joey Barton and recall striker Jon Macken.

Cristiano Ronaldo is a major doubt for United after picking up a calf injury on international duty with Portugal.

Mikael Silvestre is suspended but Rio Ferdinand and Ryan Giggs have proved their fitness after hamstring injuries.

Man City (from): James, Weaver, Mills, Onouha, Dunne, Distin, Sommeil, Thatcher, Jordan, S Wright-Phillips, Flood, Barton, McManaman, Sibierski, Musampa, Fowler, Macken, B Wright-Phillips.

Man United (from): Carroll, Howard, G Neville, P Neville, Ferdinand, Brown, O'Shea, Heinze, Fortune, Ronaldo, Scholes, Keane, Giggs, Rooney, Saha, Bellion, Fletcher.


Manchester City manager Kevin Keegan (on Joey Barton, likely to play in midfield as Paul Bosvelt is suspended):
"Paul is a good influence on Joey.
"Instead of looking as if they were going to be fighting for the same place in the starting line-up, in the main they have been in the same team.

"Paul's experience is invaluable for a young player."

Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand (on the title race):
"There is still a chance. That never-say-die spirit is ingrained into everybody at this club.
"When you look around the dressing room, you see players who have won a lot of trophies, and you don't get that without working hard or by giving in.

"We just have to win our games. We will be there to pounce if Chelsea slip up."



MANCHESTER CITY take on Manchester United in the 132nd League derby looking to record three successive home victories over their deadly rivals for the first time in half a century. That would provide manager Kevin Keegan with an early celebration on the eve of his 54th birthday.

City find themselves in mid table, on a run of two draws. But the most recent was last Sunday's goalless affair at Stamford Bridge against high flying Chelsea, who they've taken four points off this season - more than any other club.

City, who need to score twice to bring their total of home League goals against United to 100, recorded back-to-back home victories over their local rivals for the first time in 23 years when they won last season's corresponding fixture 4-1. United had dominated the first half, even though Robbie Fowler and Jon Macken gave City a 2-1 advantage at the break. Second half goals from Trevor Sinclair and Shaun Wright-Phillips secured the points.

MANCHESTER UNITED go into the weekend nine points behind Chelsea at the top of the table, and two points ahead of Arsenal. They're handily placed for automatic entry to the group stages of next season's Champions League, if they don't lift the trophy this year. They must win all 12 remaining games to collect 92 points - more than ever achieved before in a 20-club Premiership, and also hope that Jose Mourinho's side drop 10 points from their last dozen outings, if they're to pip Chelsea to the title. It's a tall order indeed, especially when the Londoners have dropped a mere 13 points all season from their 26 outings.

The Red Devils go into the Manchester derby bidding for a fifth successive Premiership since 15 January, and a fifth on the spin away from home. They've gone 15 League games without defeat, claiming 39 points from a possible 45, picking up 12 wins and three draws since the 2-0 loss, away to Portsmouth on 30 October.

Alan Smith was sent off two minutes from time as United's Premiership title hopes suffered another shattering blow by being held to a goalless draw by City in November's reverse fixture. The Red Devils losses at Maine Road and the City of Manchester stadium in the last two seasons, are their only defeats in 20 League encounters with their local rivals.



Steve Bennett (Orpington)




Club stats
Going into the weekend: 10th 33 points
(all statistics are ahead of this weekend's round of Premiership fixtures)

Scored first in 14 Premiership matches, and lost only one of those 14 (v. Liverpool a).
Conceded first in nine top flight games, and lost eight of the nine - the only point coming from a 1-1 draw, home to Newcastle.
The draw against the Magpies was City's first point this season from a Premiership match in which they were behind.
Of 31 Premiership goals scored this season, 18 have come in the first half.
Conceded only eight of 27 goals in the first period of top League encounters.
Turned round at half time in arrears in only four of their 26 League games, and in front in 11.

Won two and drawn two of the last four home Premiership matches.
Lost only one of the last nine top flight matches at the City of Manchester Stadium (0-1 against Tottenham on 11 December).
Conceded one goal in each of the last five at the City of Manchester Stadium.
Not conceded more than a single goal in any home League game this term.

Club stats
Going into the weekend: 2nd 56 points
(all statistics are ahead of this weekend's round of Premiership fixtures)

Won the last four Premier League games against Liverpool (a), Aston Villa (h), Arsenal (a) and Birmingham (h).
Won 16 Premiership matches. Only Chelsea (20) have won more.
Lost only twice in the top division (both away to Chelsea and Portsmouth). Only Chelsea, with one defeat, have lost less often.
Conceded 16 top flight goals. Only Chelsea have shipped fewer - half as many.
Kept 14 clean sheets at the top League level. Only Chelsea have managed more (20).
Top of the Premiership's "Last Six Current Form" table with 16 points, leading Chelsea and Bolton on goal difference.
Not lost a top flight game this season in which they've opened the scoring. Won 15 and drawn two of the 17.
Scored 12 goals in the last 15 minutes of Premiership games this term.
The current tally of 56 points after 26 games, is more than was accrued at this identical stage in four of the title winning seasons (2002/03, 1998/99, 1996/97 and 1995/96). Last season 57 points were pocketed by this stage, but only a third placed finish was achieved.

Won their last four League games on the road against Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, Liverpool and Arsenal.
Seeking an eighth consecutive away League game without defeat.
Won 25 away points. Only Chelsea (32) and Arsenal (28) have picked up more on their Premiership travels.
Lost only twice on the road in the uppermost League. Chelsea have lost once away from home.
Conceded 10 goals on their League travels. That's double as many as Chelsea, who are the only club to have shipped fewer away from home.




Squad profiles

Robbie FOWLER needs to score once to take his tally of Premiership goals to 150.
If he plays, Ben THATCHER will be making his 300th club career appearance.
Suspended: Paul BOSVELT

Squad profiles

If he plays, Ryan GIGGS will be making his 400th appearance in the Premier League. The Welsh International is the second most experienced player in the Premiership, trailing Gary Speed by 41 appearances.
If involved, Rio FERDINAND will be making his 250th appearance in top flight football.
Should he figure, John O'SHEA will be making his 100th career League appearance.
Should he participate, Liam MILLER will be playing on his 24th birthday.
Suspended: Mikael SILVESTRE


Manchester City 4-1 Manchester United
14 March 2004 - Ref: Steve Bennett
Man City scorers: Fowler 3, Macken 32, Sinclair 73, Wright-Phillips 90
Man United scorer: Scholes 35


Manchester United 0-0 Manchester City
7 November 2004 - Ref: Graham Poll
Sent Off: Smith (Man United) 89


League: Man City 34 wins, Man United 50, Draws 47
Prem: Man City 2 wins, Man United 9, Draws 4

HEAD TO HEAD at Man City
League: Man City 20 wins, Man United 22, Draws 23
Prem: Man City 2 wins, Man United 4, Draws 1

Another thrashing I reckon! 5-1 city!

seriously though, 2-0 city. Fowler and SWP netting for us.

~ The Green ;)ne

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i think dunne had a top game at united he was just unlucky we shud of at least got a piont outta the game dunne for most of the game marked out rooney in the last 20 mins tho we went backwards we let them press on us.i hate that gary nevile folwer shud of punched him the twat.i thought distan played well as well.

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Dunney had a good game, and in the first half Rooney didn't get a kick. He became so frustrated at Dunne that he couldn't resist a scything slide tackle on him in the first half. Unfortunately if Dunne scores an own goal he is hyper-criticised by the media-twats. He had to get something on the cross for the 2nd goal, and unfortunately it went in, but he still had a good game. We deserved something out of that, as we were the better team for most of the game. The pivotal moment was when we took off Barton :wallbang: When you're behind, you need to win the ball of your opponent, so he should have been left on no?

~ The Green :(ne
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