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As the disk I had saved all my CM games on crashed, I had to start a new game. I first thought of managing Real Betis in Spain, but after only being the Betis manager for a couple of days I got bored.

After this I tried to take over Cremonese in Italian Serie C2, but after three friendlies I got bored once again. I was about to give CM a rest for a while, but then remembered that I had some unfinished business to take care of in Holland.

As in CM4 I was the manager of Helmond for some seasons, and even though I did bring success to the club, I left. Because the board refused to expand the stadium. This is before I realised that I could use the "ultimatum" option to get through an expansion, if the supporters were on my side. And I could also have used a save game editor for this purpose, but I didn't think of that at that exact time.

But anyway, now I'm back at Helmond, and my ambitions are to win a European Cup with the club.
 

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Helmond starts in the Dutch first division, and both the board and the supporters expects me to achieve a safe mid table position. The dutch 1st division consists of 19 teams (I'm sure it was 20 in CM4, is this a bug? :confused: ), and the top team is the only one that achieves direct promotion. The 6 teams that ends on 2nd-7th place and the teams that ends on 16th and 17th in the Dutch Premier Division, plays a play off to decide who earns the right to play in the Premier Division next season.

To make things more challenging I've decided to do certain things in a different way. Without getting into what the nature of these things will be (as that would probably just bore you guys), I can say that it should make the game more challenging for me. :cool:
 

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An overview of the club:

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<TD>Nation</TD>
<TD>Holland</TD>
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<TD>Status</TD>
<TD>Professional</TD>
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<TD>Reputation</TD>
<TD>National</TD>
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<TD>Finances</TD>
<TD>Okay</TD>
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<TD>Stadium</TD>
<TD>De Braak, Helmond</TD>
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<TD>Stadium capacity</TD>
<TD>4000</TD>
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<TD>Training Ground</TD>
<TD>Adequate facilities</TD>
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<TD>Continental Competition</TD>
<TD>None</TD>
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The financial situation:

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<TD>Transfer Budget (Season)</TD>
<TD>£43,004</TD>
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<TD>Transfer Budget (Remaining)</TD>
<TD>£43,004</TD>
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<TD>% of transfer revenue made available</TD>
<TD>75%</TD>
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<TD>Sponsors</TD>
<TD>5 year deal at £31.25K per season. Ends 2008</TD>
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<TD>£430,043</TD>
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<TD>Total Wage Budget</TD>
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<TD>Current Wage Total</TD>
<TD>£35,382 p/w</TD>
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JawZ2002 said:
i thought the 1st div was split up into quarters
like the belgium lower divisions...
Its one big division, where everything is straightforward, like the English Division 1 or Italian Serie B. But there are only 19 teams, while there were 20 last season.
 

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The squad:

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<TD>SB1</TD>
<TD>Lmp</TD>
<TD>Strijbosch, R</TD>
<TD>GK</TD>
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<TD>Lmp</TD>
<TD>Cortenbach, D</TD>
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<TD>DR</TD>
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<TD>Dassen, R*</TD>
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<TD>Lmp</TD>
<TD>Ferrier, M</TD>
<TD>D/DM RC</TD>
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<TD>Lmp</TD>
<TD>Hadouche, I</TD>
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<TD>Nijssen, H</TD>
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<TD>van Dijk, S</TD>
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Maybe the expanded Div 1 to 20 teams in 02/03, but I still don't get why there are only 19 teams in the division this year.
 

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I think I can help. :)

There were never 20 teams in the Dutch first division Drac. This is in fact the first year that there are 19 teams. The reason being that former amateur club AGOVV got a pro-license this season and if everything goes according to plan, FC Omniworld will be joining them in only a matter of time.

Also Jawz is right about the season being split up into 4 quarters where the winners of each quarter assure themselves of a playoff spot at the end of the season.

Anyway good luck with Helmond!
 

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Drulo, thanks for the explanation. :) I was almost sure that it was 20 teams in this division last season, but I must have mixed it up with the French lower divisions. Its strange that they are going to expand from 19 to 20 teams during the season.

And although the season seems to be split up in 4 quarters, (2 teams have secured a play off spot after 18 matches), but it doesn't show that in the game. Like it does with the Argentinian league (there are "open" and "close" fixtures).

Anyway, getting back to the game. I had a bad start as we lost the first two matches, but then I managed to bring in Leonardo Pischulichi for £150K. And with him on the team we grabbed 14 points in the next 6 matches. This saw us get as high up to the 4th spot. But Pisculichi got injured, and the other players proved that 85% of them aren't anything special.

After several losses and a couple of draws, I finally managed to beat Excelsior and MVV at home. But I lost the next match 3-4 away against FC Dordrecht.

After 18 matches, we are currently placed 15th in the league with 22 points, so the situation is really bad. But both the supporters and the board are still satisified, and I have now evalued most of the players that are at the club, and can therefore bring in reinforcements, without worrying about not giving the original players a chance.
 

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Add another loss, and we went to the winter break, with this table:

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<TD>1st</TD>
<TD>Pl</TD>
<TD>De Graafschap</TD>
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<TD>18</TD>
<TD>11</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>29</TD>
<TD>11</TD>
<TD>+18</TD>
<TD>38</TD>
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<TD>2nd</TD>
<TD>Pl</TD>
<TD>TOP</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>37</TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>+19</TD>
<TD>34</TD>
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<TD>3rd</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Heracles</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>49</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>+23</TD>
<TD>32</TD>
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<TD>4th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Cambuur</TD>
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<TD>18</TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>8</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>33</TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>+15</TD>
<TD>32</TD>
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<TD>5th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Emmen</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>30</TD>
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<TD>6th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Go Ahead</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>0</TD>
<TD>27</TD>
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<TD>7th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Excelsior</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>30</TD>
<TD>24</TD>
<TD>+6</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
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<TD>8th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>VVV-Venlo</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>42</TD>
<TD>37</TD>
<TD>+5</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
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<TD>9th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Eindhoven</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>32</TD>
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>+5</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
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<TD>10th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Sparta</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>30</TD>
<TD>28</TD>
<TD>+2</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
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<TR bgcolor="#EEEEEE"> 
<TD>11th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Telstar</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>25</TD>
<TD>26</TD>
<TD>-1</TD>
<TD>25</TD>
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<TR bgcolor="#EEEEEE"> 
<TD>12th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>AGOVV</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>29</TD>
<TD>31</TD>
<TD>-2</TD>
<TD>25</TD>
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<TD>13th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Veendam</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>6</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>27</TD>
<TD>33</TD>
<TD>-6</TD>
<TD>24</TD>
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<TR bgcolor="#EEEEEE"> 
<TD>14th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>FC Dordrecht</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>7</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>28</TD>
<TD>32</TD>
<TD>-4</TD>
<TD>23</TD>
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<TD><b>15th</b></TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD><b>Helmond</b></TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD><b>19</b></TD>
<TD><b>6</b></TD>
<TD><b>4</b></TD>
<TD><b>9</b></TD>
<TD><b>45</b></TD>
<TD><b>50</b></TD>
<TD><b>-5</b></TD>
<TD><b>22</b></TD>
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<TD>16th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>FC Den Bosch</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>4</TD>
<TD>9</TD>
<TD>15</TD>
<TD>29</TD>
<TD>-14</TD>
<TD>19</TD>
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<TD>17th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Haarlem</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>11</TD>
<TD>29</TD>
<TD>54</TD>
<TD>-25</TD>
<TD>18</TD>
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<TD>18th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>MVV</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>18</TD>
<TD>3</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>10</TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>35</TD>
<TD>-16</TD>
<TD>14</TD>
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<TD>19th</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>Fortuna Sittard</TD>
<TD></TD>
<TD>19</TD>
<TD>2</TD>
<TD>5</TD>
<TD>12</TD>
<TD>15</TD>
<TD>35</TD>
<TD>-20</TD>
<TD>11</TD>
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dont give up on the season yet....

all you gotta do is put back some back to back wins and finish top of one of the quarters, which is approx 8 games per quarter

8 teams go into playoff i think
2 from the top flight
6 from division

4 are decided by quarters
and then the two highest place teams not already qualified
 

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Well things did get somewhat better for us, but because I had alot to do at work, and have started preparing for some Microsoft exams, I didn't get to play this game for a long time. Therefore when I got back to the game, I just didn't have the same motivation.

I'm currently playing as Barcelona, but I don't have the time to write stories at the moment, so I'll just have to read stories for a while instead.
 

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Yes I'm still somewhat busy with the studies, and with almost everyone else running away on vacations at work, I have to put on extra hours almost everday. This doesn't give me much spare time, which is pretty frustrating. Because of my studies, I even dropped the football practice, and was therefore dropped from the team (which is understandable).

I also don't like the assignments at my job at the moment. But since they pay so well, I just have to stick around until I've got more certifications, so I can get an as well paid (but with more interesting assignments) job somewhere else.

But in the next week I have some free time, as I'm taking the week off, and since I can't travel anywhere, because of my studies (I can not take time off from that, as I really just want to move on from my current job, I feel that I've stagnated at my current job), I'm staying at home. Which means that I can play some more games to. I haven't had much chance to play CM lately, so this should be fun. :happy:

Inspired by you guys, I'm thinking of starting a story thread to.
 
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