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Türkiye-Kupasi-finali: Trabzonspor vs. Gençlerbirligi

the 2 finalists are 2 great and exciting playing teams... both teams played last years Türkiye-Kupasi-final, too... Trabzonspor won last year...lets see if Gençler can win it this time...

Trabzonspor 2 : 0 Istanbulspor (16.03.2004)
Fenerbahçe 2 : 4 Gençlerbirligi (17.03.2004)
 

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I hope the team that has played it fairer throughout the competition ends up winning it... Make of that what you will...
 

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Cem, what did Genclerbirligi do that was so bad? Genclerbirligi didn't postpone the game the TFF did.
 

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Manny said:
Cem, what did Genclerbirligi do that was so bad? Genclerbirligi didn't postpone the game the TFF did.
The TFF doesn't decide to postpone games out of good will..
They postpone games if a team can go to them and present a case as to why they think their fixture should be postponed...

Their behaviour was unethical, and besides, Trabzon deserves a trophy 10x more than Gençler..
Trabzon has been incredibly consistant, even with a change of president and 3 different managers...

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I think Boliç's disallowed goal for Istanbulspor was a goal.. It looked well past the line..
I'd have liked for the goal to be given to him, even if it wouldn't change the outcome.. He's a legend :proud:
 

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Tolga said:
The TFF doesn't decide to postpone games out of good will..
They postpone games if a team can go to them and present a case as to why they think their fixture should be postponed...

Their behaviour was unethical, and besides, Trabzon deserves a trophy 10x more than Gençler..
Trabzon has been incredibly consistant, even with a change of president and 3 different managers...
The TFF could have said no because it would be unfair to Fenerbahce, Denizlispor, Gaziantepspor and Galatasaray to postpone the game.

Btw I thought you Fener fans disliked Trabzonspor.
 

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Manny said:
Cem, what did Genclerbirligi do that was so bad? Genclerbirligi didn't postpone the game the TFF did.
Dennis, do you know the whole story bro? ;) If so, you would know that what GB did was not only an injustice to Fener, but also Denizli, Antep, GS and possibly even Samsun & Diyarbakir.

They basically used their efforts in the UEFA this season as a front to ensure they get there next season too. This success has as much to do with GB throwing in the towel early in the league ;) With the current league position they got themselves in, all their European hopes for next season were pinned on the Turkish Cup.

That was their decision so fair play to them.... But what about the other clubs mentioned above? They have been playing over 25 matches trying to keep pace with a European spot, but almighty Gencler thought it was their right to ensure going to Europe again next season. Why? because they done well this year... Well, didn't Denizli do well last year? Aren't GS the UEFA winners of 2000. What about Antep, their efforts were equally commended to Genclers....

Their appeal to postpone the Adana game was to have a rested side for the domestic semi-final and ensure they are 100% ready for the last European hope. Never before has a game been postponed for another match inside the same country. This is called unfair competition...

Fenerbahce now have an injured Mehmet Yozgatli, Kemal and Volkan. What if we appeal to have our Bursa game postponed due to these injuries and the fatigue caused by the current match traffic so we can win the league and go to the CL? Sounds ridiculous doesn't it...... ;)

Make no mistake, Gencler wanted the Adana game postponed. The TFF turned it down, but they appealed and got the backing of the clubs union to get their own way. If you don't believe me, just check out their chairman Ilhan Cavcav's comments which went on record...
 

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Manny said:
Cem, what did Genclerbirligi do that was so bad? Genclerbirligi didn't postpone the game the TFF did.
Yes, it is mainly TFF's fault but you should also know that Gencler President Ilhan Cavcav is also the president of the Kulüpler Birligi (the clubs own "union"). And with the new TFF president election coming it was very convenient to give Gencler a "little" unfair competition....;)
 
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I'd rather have Trabzon win the cup then try a vain, arduous effort to go for the league.
 
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Here's some statistiscs for the cup. Seems Trabzon's second only to Gala in this competition.


Cup Winners

13 Galatasaray SK Ýstanbul
6 Trabzonspor K
5 Beþiktaþ JK Ýstanbul
4 Fenerbahçe SK Ýstanbul
2 Göztepe SK Ýzmir
2 Altay GK Ýzmir
2 MKE Ankaragücü SK
2 Gençlerbirliði SK Ankara
2 Kocaelispor K Ýzmit
1 Eskiþehirspor K
1 Bursaspor K
1 Sakaryaspor K Adapazarý

Cup Finalists

18 Galatasaray SK Ýstanbul
11 Beþiktaþ JK Ýstanbul
10 Trabzonspor K
9 Fenerbahçe SK Ýstanbul
7 Altay GK Ýzmir
5 MKE Ankaragücü SK
4 Bursaspor K
3 Göztepe SK Ýzmir
3 Eskiþehirspor K
3 Gençlerbirliði SK Ankara
2 Kocaelispor K Ýzmit
1 Demirspor K Adana
1 Boluspor K
1 Mersin Ýdmanyurdu SK
1 Sakaryaspor K Adapazarý
1 Samsunspor K
1 Antalyaspor AÞ
 
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