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The second most important trophy of Swedish club football started being played in 1941. The first winner was Helsinborgs IF who beat IK Sleipner 3-1 in the final in Solna.

The current Cup holders are Kalmar FF who beat last year's Allsvenskan winners IFK Göteborg by a clear 3-0 in Kalmar.

Here's the list of 16 clubs that won the trophy so far:

1 Malmö FF .................14
2 AIK .........................7
3 IFK Norrköping ..........6
4 IFK Göteborg ...........4
4 Djurgårdens IF .........4
6 Helsingborgs IF .........3
6 Kalmar FF .................3
8 Åtvidabergs FF ...........2
8 IF Elfsborg .................2
10 GAIS .......................1
10 Råå IF .....................1
10 Landskrona BoIS .......1
10 Östers IF ................1
10 Degerfors IF ...........1
10 Halmstads BK .........1
10 Örgryte IS ............1
 

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And here are the results of this year's Cup so far...

Round 1

20.03.2008
IK Frej 0-2 Syrianska Botkyrka IF

29.03.2008
IFK Luleå 1-0 Skellefteå FF
Enskede IK 0-2 Valsta Syrianska IK

02.04.2008
Svedala IF 0-1 IFK Malmö FK

04.04.2008
Gamla Upsala SK 0-1 Gröndals IK

05.04.2008
IK Kongahälla 2-3 Norrby IF
IFK Karlshamn 1-5 Kirseberg IF
Slottsskogen/Godhem IF 2-3 Råslätts SK

06.04.2008
Akropolis IF 0-3 Väsby United
Mariedals IK 2-3 Fässbergs IF
Täby IS 1-2 Vasalunds IF
Västerås SK FK 5-0 Heby AIF
IFK Fjärås 0-5 Torslanda IK
Rynninge IK 1-2 Carlstad United BK
IFK Våmhus A 0-3 Sandvikens IF
Lindö FF 0-4 Syrianska FC
Yxnerums IF 0-5 Myresjö IF
Klippans Förenade FF 1-1 IFK Klagshamn (AET 5-4 after pen.)
Bäckhammars SK 0-18 Karlslunds IF HFK
Delsbo IF 4-2 Sollefteå GIF FF (AET)
Tölö IF 0-4 IFK Värnamo
FK Älmeboda/Linneryd 1-3 IFK Hässleholm
Stafsinge IF 1-4 Ramlösa Södra FF
IFK Berga 0-4 Kristianstads FF
Gerdskens BK 0-1 Skärhamns IK
Sollentuna Fotboll IF 0-1 FC Gute
Skultorps IF 0-6 Skövde AIK
Växjö Norra IF 0-6 Ängelholms FF
IK Östria Lambohov 1-2 Nyköpings BIS
Östansbo IS 0-3 KB Karlskoga
IFK Östersund 2-0 IFK Timrå
Tibro AIK FK 3-1 IF Hagapojkarna
IFK Holmsund 1-2 Bodens BK FF

22.04.2008
Eds FF 2-1 IFK Trollhättan (AET)

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Round 2

23.04.2008
Norrby IF 2-1 Bodens BK FF

29.04.2008
Tibro AIK FK 1-0 IF Limhamn Bunkeflo
IFK Hässleholm 0-4 Degerfors IF

30.04.2008
FC Gute 3-4 Helsingborgs IF
Valsta Syrianska IK 1-0 BK Häcken
KB Karlskoga 0-4 GIF Sundsvall

01.05.2008
Kirseberg IF 1-4 Sirius
Syrianska Botkyrka IF 1-2 Jönköpings Södra IF
Ängelholms FF 1-2 IF Elfsborg
IFK Luleå 1-2 Halmstads BK
Karlslunds IF HFK 3-0 IF Sylvia
Klippans Förenade FF 0-5 Falkenbergs FF
Gröndals IK 2-1 Åtvidabergs FF
Västerås SK FK 2-0 Trelleborgs FF
Ramlösa Södra FF 2-4 IFK Norrköping FK
Eds FF 1-4 IF Brommapojkarna
IFK Värnamo 0-1 Enköpings SK FK
Carlstad United BK 3-2 Gefle IF
Torslanda IK 0-1 Mjällby AIF (AET)
Kristianstads FF 2-3 Malmö FF (AET)
Väsby United 2-1 Östers IF (AET)
Fässbergs IF 0-1 Vasalunds IF
Nyköpings BIS 1-0 GAIS
Sandvikens IF 0-3 Örgryte
IFK Malmö FK 0-2 AIK
Myresjö IF 0-1 Örebro
Syrianska FC 4-6 Hammarby (AET)
IFK Östersund 0-7 Kalmar FF
Råslätts SK 0-9 Djurgården
Skärhamns IK 1-1 Ljungskile SK (AET 6-7 after pen.)
Delsbo IF 0-2 Landskrona BoIS
Skövde AIK 1-2 IFK Göteborg

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Round 3

14.05.2008
Vasalunds IF 3-4 IFK Norrköping FK
Karlslunds IF HFK 1-0 Västerås SK FK

15.05.2008
Nyköpings BIS 0-9 Halmstads BK
Carlstad United BK 0-2 Malmö FF

16.05.2008
IF Elfsborg 3-1 Örebro

17.05.2008
Hammarby 5-1 Mjällby AIF
Sirius 4-2 Djurgården
Väsby United 0-3 Örgryte
Falkenbergs FF 0-3 IFK Göteborg
Norrby IF 0-6 Ljungskile SK
Valsta Syrianska IK 2-1 Helsingborgs IF

18.05.2008
Kalmar FF 2-0 IF Brommapojkarna
AIK 0-1 Landskrona BoIS
Degerfors IF 3-1 Jönköpings Södra IF
Tibro AIK FK 0-3 Enköpings SK FK
Gröndals IK 1-3 GIF Sundsvall

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Some big surprises already with the eliminations of
DIF :happy:, AIK :thumbsup: and...GAIS :doh:
 

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Sirius 4-2 Djurgården
Bloody brilliant :dielaugh: I hate DIF with all my heart, absolutely detest them. And to see them get knocked out by my hometown team :heart::howler::proud:

I watched the game on tv though, didn't care to go to Gävle and watch it
 

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Sirius :proud:
Landskrona :proud:
 

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1/8 Finals

25.06.2008
Halmstads BK 2-2 IF Elfsborg [AET, 2-4 after pen.]
Landskrona BoIS 0-1 GIF Sundsvall

26.06.2008
Valsta Syrianska IK 1-0 Örgryte

28.06.2008
Malmö FF 2-3 Hammarby
Enköping 4-1 Sirius
IFK Göteborg 1-0 Ljungskile SK
Kalmar FF 6-1 Degerfors IF
Karlslunds IF HFK 0-3 IFK Norrköping FK

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1/4 Finals

10.07.2008
IFK Norrköping FK 2-2 Enköping [AET, 4-5 after pen.]
GIF Sundsvall 2-3 IFK Göteborg

24.07.2008
Valsta Syrianska IK 0-4 Hammarby

07.08.2008
IF Elfsborg 2-4 Kalmar FF

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Semi Finals

21.08.2008
Hammarby 0-1 Kalmar FF [AET]

28.08.2008
Enköping 0-3 IFK Göteborg

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FINAL

21 September 2008
Fredriksskans, Kalmar (7.158 attending)
Referee: Peter Fröjdfeldt, Eskilstuna


Kalmar FF 0-0 IFK Göteborg
[AET, 4-5 after pen.]

Penalty takers:
1-0 Henrik Rydström, 1-1 Niclas Alexandersson, 2-1 Lasse Johansson, 2-2 Kim Christensen, 3-2 Viktor Elm, 3-3 Ragnar Sigurdsson, 4-3 Daniel Sobralense, 4-4 Hjalmar Jonsson, Marcus Lindberg (missed),
4-5 Pontus Wernbloom.

Kalmar FF
Petter Wastå
Arthur Sorin - Marcus Lindberg - Joachim Lantz - Emin Nouri
Rasmus Elm (David Elm 79') - Henrik Rydström
Lasse Johansson - Viktor Elm - Jimmie Augustsson (Daniel Sobralense 58')
Patrik Ingelsten (Stefan Larsson 101')

Booked: Emin Nouri (61')


IFK Göteborg
Kim Christensen
Erik Lund - Mattias Bjärsmyr - Ragnar Sigurdsson - Niclas Alexandersson
Hjalmar Jonsson - Pontus Wernbloom
Thomas Olsson (Gustav Svensson 62') - Adam Johansson (Jonas Wallerstedt 99') - Tobias Hysén
Robin Söder (Stefan Selakovic 107')

Booked: Adam Johansson (97')


IFK GÖTEBORG is the 2008 SWEDISH CUP WINNER
 

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Råsunda wouldn't get 5000 when it's with Kalmar and Göteborg, believe me on that...

The main why Allsvenskan is going down is that Malmö are shit, Göteborg only decent and all the Stockholm teams are doing "meh" now and even though people like to say that it's better to have more from the "country" to come in and win, in the end, they won't attract as much as the big cities does.

Why does Kalmar have worse attendence than last year?
I think the AIK and Hammarby fans that does the boycott of all away games is a big reason + some other things.

Just look at the derby latest 22.000, it's rather shit and it's going to be worse between Hammarby - DIF where I fear the "death" of the fan-culture in Sweden if the penalty isn't withdrawn, if its staying then I expect some of the worst fights going down...
 

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I think the AIK and Hammarby fans that does the boycott of all away games is a big reason + some other things.
They visit the derby 'away' games though :pp

Just look at the derby latest 22.000, it's rather shit and it's going to be worse between Hammarby - DIF where I fear the "death" of the fan-culture in Sweden if the penalty isn't withdrawn, if its staying then I expect some of the worst fights going down...
Which penalty are you talking about? :)
 

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They visit the derby 'away' games though :pp
It's because the clubs have agreed to share the costs of the games etc. While other teams won't share any costs and still will take all the money, even the away teams tickets...

Which penalty are you talking about? :)
Well, it was erased today but the main penalty was that Hammarby fans was supposed to be thrown out the main stands but the big problem was that many then started to consider to go the away stand and that would have caused a major uproar, especially when Hammarby Security have got praise for fulfilling all the stuff you should have for security...

Råsunda is a shithole of a stadium...
 

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The real reasons for the low quality of the Swedish league are much more linked with stuff like having its good players being stolen to play abroad in the middle of it than with any low numbers in the stands.

I don't give a rat's ass to the so called "fan culture" and it is actually because of those morons that so many people stay away from the stadia in this country.
 

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The real reasons for the low quality of the Swedish league are much more linked with stuff like having its good players being stolen to play abroad in the middle of it than with any low numbers in the stands.

I don't give a rat's ass to the so called "fan culture" and it is actually because of those morons that so many people stay away from the stadia in this country.
Nope, it's not at all like that.
When IFK Göteborg was at their best, the attendances was not as close as this high. A regular derby would be a success if it was like 10.000 to it. And we should not even forget what Black Army was for kind of organization then. Read "En Av Grabbarna" if you want, they were loads of more brutality when the league had great players in it, loads more...

The "Fan Culture" bought LOADS of enthusiasm to people, alot of people went to the derbies because it was a party for the regular people, and we all know that masses attracts idiots...

But what does these clubs get to fight these idiots?
NOTHING!
Hammarby and AIK have wanted for a time now to identify the guys that make problems but can't because it's the police duty and the police aren't allowed to take people like that. So how the hell are you gonna get away these kind of idiots when you're constantly getting resistance from the joke of Lagrell and the police department?
It doesn't even help when Aftonbladet and Expressen tend to ALWAYS make the worse of something that isn't that bad from the beginning.

Like Norling said:
"I would read your paper if you came up with something that could help stopping this and not only to focus on the problem"

We focus damn much on the problem but nothing on the solution.
Just one big thing is that the idiot of gameholder are releasing the fans at the exact same time with the overaggressive police on their horses, how the hell are you going to attract crowd when you make everything a chaos, even the guys that are supposed to protect does it.

The Fans was the stuff that brought in the popularity and the morons that have watched Football Factory or Green Street Hooligans are making them disappear but if you're also getting shit from SVFF no matter what then...
 
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