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LOL, I think I just found the reason why so few cases of Corona have been confirmed in Sweden so far.

They're refusing to test people who haven't been in contact with a confirmed case.

I can sort of buy the reasoning if they have limited resources to test people. But at least take the appropriate precautions when dealing with suspected cases.

On Monday, the health care finally decided that it might be Corona that Maria was affected by and sent an ambulance with staff in protective clothing. But while they are at her home, a new decision comes from a doctor. Since she has not been to Italy, she should not be regarded as suspected of being infected by the corona virus and therefore not do a corona test. However, she should go to the hospital to check her lungs. The staff then takes off the protective clothing and she is sent to a regular emergency room where she waited during the Monday afternoon.
 

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LOL is that a serious article? (its similar how to the guy who came from Italy, rode on a train from stockholm to Göteborg, and they were doing this contagion investigation that read like a parody, couldnt believe it). Tho I'm not suprised, I can praise plenty of things that are highly functional in Swedens society, but the immediate and active public health care would be DEAD LAST on any list. Allways been a joke throughout my childhood to adulthood (can only think favourably of the specialists, not the ATs&Vård central services), I personally know of 3 cases (as in friends relatives, collegues etc) in past few years alone, where nurses/doctors sent home people without proper treatment, who later just dropped dead at home. They dont take shit seriously.


Its extra scary factor that this highly unprepared health care protocols would be in charge of something like Corona epidemic.


Media is telling me there's only 15 corona cases in Sweden, there is no way I believe that lol.
 

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LOL.

So Juventus refusing to play on Sunday for the sake of 5 million euros amid a national health crisis is not petty?

Sorry, but that is bollox.
 

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Inter objecting for sporting reasons, meaning they want the advantage of playing away game with no home support for your opponents, while Juve didnt to lose revenue and Lega not lose face and prestige (biggiest match of the season with empty stands). Not a SINGLE home team in the league is willing to accept closed empty game so far, so the issue is this farce started by a suggestion of having no fans by one of the Serie A leading officials, he didnt meet with any of his peers or clubs higher ups, just came with the idea after the goverment decreed no public venues for these dates.


But 2 days later the League says in confirmed official capacity that we dont want closed doors games but will postpone. Which will be tricky, but it has to be May, since thats when this heavily congested fixture list has an opening.


The idiocy and selfishness of refusing to play today Monday by Inter, is because Juve as Piedmont team, wether its technicality or bureacracy, are deemed safe to have public events this week, this might be one of the few away games Inter will have coming month thats actually able to be played by, Piedmont by goverment decree is not considered a health risk with 11 cases and no furher spread. And yeah that would mean fans from regions where the virus is spreading in epidemic level would not be allowed in. That logically makes sense due to health reasons, wether its effective measure when these regions are neighbours are another magter.

IIt could saved the insanely congested list to play today, so yeah the League officials and the sporting goverment officials are rightfully pissed at Inter management for crying about the congested May fixture delayed games, when they refused the practical and immediate solution of playing today.



This problem will get worse before it gets better, so all need to be on the same page to face the organisational mess week by week. Its hard to imagine how this season will be finished. Not every game can be delayed to 13th May (I wonder if 5th may is available). Theres many Serie A teams in the worst hit regions, for example our game vs Milan in coppa in 2 days will be delayed, Bologna game next weekend also delayed, so yeah shit is about to get worse.
So basically juve (and Lega) are entitled to be selfish and look after their own interests but Inter no? That is effectively what you are saying.

Inter had no problem refunding 30,000 people, losing money in the process, while your scum club didn't want to refund their fans, that is the difference. A club that signed 1 player for 100 million didn't want to refund a measly 5mill to THEIR OWN FANS, what a silly joke. A bad one.

Clearly in this case the priority of Juventus was not public health but their own financial health, and having their fans present against Inter. So don't come here and give us shit about the severity of the situation bla bla and pretend that is why the match should have been Monday not Sunday.

Why should we accept playing without travelling fans? why should we feck up our preparation for a difficult Coppa match in Southern Italy?

The lega originally decided to play behind closed doors, then Agnelli pressured them and they changed their decision, to protect the interests of juve and they obliged. Hence the complaints of Inter, changing a decision that was already made beforehand.

Hopefully the whole league season gets cancelled, it was already farcical in terms of refereeing anyhow. I am actually rather annoyed that our Ultras and management only started complaining after this scheduling issue, and not when we were blatantly robbed points in league matches.

Nice little dig there about 5th of May, but in case you are not aware Inter actually WON a Scudetto on that date and our Treble started with a Coppa win on 5th of May.

You know, the Treble your club is spending unprecedented shitloads of money to repeat what we already achieved?
 

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Firstly its all handled really poorly. But you have to know this is goverment issued quarantines and guidelines, and they are very different for each region based on the spread. There are only 11 cases in Piedmont region where Juve is, and no increase in cases, so for this week they opened up the public venues of the region as bussines as usual (hence why they suggested Monday, with fans). While Lombardy has 800 cases and spreading rapidly, and similar spreading in Emilio Regiana and other close by provinces.
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There are as of today 2,036 positive cases of Coronavirus in Italy, with 52 deaths.
The vast majority – 1,254 – are in the Lombardy region, with 335 in Emilia-Romagna, 273 in Veneto and 51 in Piedmont.


 

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Number of cases in Piedmont has gone up 5x in a matter of days and Juve under 23s played against a Corona-11 from Tuscany but Juventus say it's perfectly fine to host Inter as long as it's home fans only.

Retarded.
 

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a quick recap of events:

Sunday March 1 2020

Serie A: 'Inter refused to play on Monday'

By Football Italia staff

Lega Serie A chief Paolo Dal Pino insists Inter “categorically refused” to play Juventus with open doors on Monday. “They should take responsibility and not talk of a distorted league.”
The row over the decision to postpone five Serie A games – including Juventus-Inter – to May 13 has caused huge controversy, as on Thursday it had been announced they would be played behind closed doors due to the Coronavirus outbreak.
Inter director Beppe Marotta claimed the Lega Serie A moved to simply reschedule them without informing the clubs, creating a “distorted” fixture list and therefore changing the entire season.

Now Dal Pino has given his version of events to La Gazzetta dello Sport and it is very different to Marotta’s.
“On Friday, the general manager De Siervo and I proposed to Inter the idea of moving the game with Juventus to Monday evening so that it could be played with a crowd present.

“Inter categorically refused to take the field
. So they should take responsibility for their decisions and not talk of unsporting situations or a distorted league.

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Lega wanted us to play on 2 March with fans instead of 1 March behind closed doors

To which Marotta responded:



Sunday March 1 2020


Marotta: 'Juve-Inter on Monday unacceptable'


By Football Italia staff

Inter chief Beppe Marotta has hit back at Lega Serie A President Paolo Dal Pino over allegations that the Nerazzurri didn’t want to play Juventus on Monday evening. “It was an unacceptable proposal for three reasons.”

In an interview with La Gazzetta dello Sport, Dal Pino relayed his version of events, in which he stated that it was Inter who shot down the idea of moving the Derby d’Italia from Sunday to Monday evening, when the government-imposed quarantine would’ve been lifted.


Marotta spoke to Italian news agency ANSA about Dal Pino’s comments.

“We received an informal and random proposal from the CEO of the league Luigi De Siervo to play on Monday evening that we didn’t even want to consider because we consider it impractical and almost provocative,” said Marotta.

“In respect to Inter and the millions of Nerazzurri fans as well as millions of football fans in general, we considered this proposal unacceptable for three reasons.

“Firstly, it would have gone against the logic of protecting public health, in fact assuming the disappearance of the Coronavirus within 48 hours.



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Tuesday March 3 2020


Official: Juventus-Milan postponed


By Football Italia staff


In yet another change of plan, tomorrow’s Juventus-Milan Coppa Italia semi-final has been called off due to the Coronavirus outbreak.

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A match originally scheduled for 4 March in Turin (juve-Milan in Coppa) has been cancelled due to corona and yet Lega wanted Inter to play juve in Turin with crowds on 2 March?! So there's no corona on 2 March but there's corona on 4 March? Illogical.

So, it's clear here that Marotta/Inter were right in the end. Time and ensuing decisions made confirm it.
 

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Spadafora: 'Serie A to continue behind closed doors'
By Football Italia staff


Italy’s Minister of Sport Vincenzo Spadafora says Serie A will “go ahead” with games played behind closed doors following a meeting held in Rome.
Serie A has been thrown into chaos following a string of postponements due to the ever-growing spread of the Coronavirus in the country.
However only games in certain regions have been cancelled.
This has led to in fighting between many of the clubs, with some stating that either all games go ahead, behind closed doors, or they should all be postponed.
Today a meeting was held between the clubs and Italy’s Minister of Sport, Vincenzo Spadafora, in order to resolve the ever-growing crisis.
Upon the conclusion of the meeting, held at the CONI headquarters in Rome, Spadafora stated that the league will forge ahead with playing games behind closed doors.
“The championship goes ahead, but we are moving towards the idea of playing games behind closed doors,” Spadafora told reporters.
“We will try to continue holding sporting activities whilst protecting the health of the public.”
Spadafora’s comments come on the heels of Napoli and Inter’s Coppa Italia semi final second leg being postponed this morning.


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Best solution. No crowds so no threat of virus spread, and in the meantime league doesn't lose millions in TV money. Clubs will lose out on gate receipts but some sacrifices need to be made in a time of crisis.

Fagnelli, will you refund the 5mill to your fans now ? lolf.
 

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Marotta: 'Behind closed doors only way to finish the season'
By Football Italia staff

Inter general manager Beppe Marotta says playing behind closed doors is “the only way to finish the league” in the aftermath of the postponed Serie A fixtures.
Italian football has been thrown into chaos due to the rapid spread of the Coronavirus over the last several weeks, with over 2,000 confirmed cases of the disease throughout Italy.
Matches have been postponed depending on the location of the home side, and this has led to in fighting amongst the teams in the league.
A meeting was held today in Rome in order to resolve the fixture crisis.
Inter’s general manager Marotta spoke after the conclusion of the meeting, and said balance needs to be restored.
“The right harmony was restored in a time of great difficulty for the country, we need to be aware of the very serious health problems in our sphere, within football,” Marotta told reporters outside the CONI headquarters.
“The attempt is to complete the championship with the utmost regularity, without creating a competitive imbalance, but as you can see the scenario changes constantly.
“We are waiting for a new government decree, so we can travel on sight. Behind closed doors is the only way to finish the league in light of the situation and the restrictions that the government are rightly adopting.
“The council ratified the proposal of the 20 clubs to resume suspended games, this is the solution of the Lega.
“There is one slot difference between the end of the week, with the suspended games, then the Lega will communicate the dates.
“Juve-Inter? It can be played on Sunday or Monday.”
 

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Official: Behind closed doors until April 3
By Football Italia staff

A new Government decree has ruled that all sporting events in Italy will only be played behind closed doors until April 3 due to the Coronavirus outbreak.
This covers all areas, including those that have not yet been hit by the spread of the highly-infectious respiratory disease.
It comes after the number of positive cases in Italy surged to over 3,000, including 107 deaths, although at this moment there are 2,706 currently suffering from the illness.

The decree also states that clubs are responsible for making regular checks to ensure none of their athletes or staff have the Coronavirus.
Schools and universities have been closed throughout the country until at least March 15, although that could be extended.
It’s almost certain now that Serie A will resume essentially where it left off, so with the six postponed games from Week 26 played instead of the Week 27 fixtures.

That means Juventus-Inter, Milan-Genoa and others will be this weekend, shifting the Week 27 fixtures to next week, and so on.
This is not official yet, because today's Lega Serie A meeting did not have enough participants to ensure a valid vote.
The Coppa Italia semi-finals Juventus-Milan and Napoli-Inter were already called off, set for this evening and tomorrow.
 

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So, it's clear here that Marotta/Inter were right in the end. Time and ensuing decisions made confirm it.
Zhang: 'Inter right on Coronavirus'
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Inter President Steven Zhang said “closing doors but continuing matches is the right thing to do. We made the right choice and now people realise it was correct.”
A decision was finally announced by the Government this evening that sporting events will be played behind closed doors until April 3, as the positive cases in Italy went above 3,000, including 107 deaths.

“Closing doors but continuing matches is the right thing to do,” Zhang told BBC Sport.
The original proposal last week had been to play Juventus-Inter without fans from the most-affected areas, specifically Lombardy (whose capital is Milan), Emilia-Romagna and Veneto, was rejected by Inter, then ruled out by the local authorities, who simply postponed the game.
“From a moral standpoint, as President of a football club and a manager in an organisation who are involved in these events, I just cannot accept this kind of proposal and I cannot let public health be put in this difficult condition,” added Zhang.
“It doesn't matter what kind of game it is, it doesn't matter if it was 24 hours or 48 hours, we knew the situation was not going to be gone.
“The right thing to do was to reject the proposal. I had to do what was morally correct, even though it was difficult to say no. But we made the right choice and now people realise it was correct.
“As a football club, we have a responsibility to deliver the right message. Safety is the highest priority. Closing the doors to a match is difficult for many reasons but in the end, in order to continue with the calendar and continue with normal activities, we have to take these decisions.
“I am not worried closing doors will affect the performance of the team. What I am worried about is putting public safety at risk by doing these kinds of events in front of spectators.”
Juventus-Inter is now likely to be played this Sunday behind closed doors, a week after it was originally meant to kick off.
 

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Parma - SPAL was almost cancelled but then went ahead.

I wonder will there be similar chaos this evening.

I personally think we are days or maybe a couple of weeks away from the complete cancellation of the season.

The big losers would, of course, be Lazio. Would be sort of tragic, actually. Which is not to say they couldn't challenge next season. I;m sure they still could, as long as Inzaghi, SMS and Luis Alberto stay (and I'm sure they would).
 

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We gonna bother with a Juve thread?

I know the game is pointless, but it's a Derby D'Italia
 

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It's going to be weird if this is how the rest of the season will be.
 

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1300 hundred cases in the last 24 hours? There is no way the season is going to be seen through to the end.
 

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Pretty weak opening from Inter so far.
 

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Looks like Juve will put in their 2nd best performance of the season
 

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Nax let's do a thread
 

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Young beasting Cuadrado at the moment
 
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