So, should Ranieri still be fired?

Glen said:

You must be looking for a new high score in making zero sense. I applaud the effort of course.



This is first of all almost completely absurd. Its two sentences with no logical connection between them at all. They actually cancel each other out.
And that is supposed to be a reply to an immortal Monty Python joke, where Osman supplied the picture from the movie?

Of course, I could help you out and say that I know what you actually meant - however helplessly communicated - but that would be really boring, and you would still be wrong.

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now a westerner is trying to tell an eastern boy who grown up in communism what he meant when referred to Prussia and china? BWAHAHA !!!! Classic neo-gloabalized approach, aint it. I grew up in Commiee Bulgaria, I work and visit Russia for years now, I have being to China and indeed have projects there. The "managed democracy" is a joke, as it doesnt exist, as such the common things between Putin's russia and nowadays china are more than the differences. Hence being in China can get to you in my example. The China Commie leader is also closer to a czar than even Putin is, albeit they all have differences, if you really want to focus on them.

And finally, but most importantly - so you actually claim to know what I mean, but choose to focus on what you think is lack of being clearly communicated. You like to dominate each and every discussion and dialogue so very much while showing no breaks or mercy, I cant think of anything else to compare you to but to a czar-like figure in a fake (claimed) democracy.

bono said:

ranieri? he will be judged on 2 things - results and performance of the team. If he wins the league or UCL OR fail to qualify for next UCL, its safe to say performance will matter less. If he only Q-fies for UCL, then performance probabbly will be key.

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I believe it's a combination of Ranieri and upper management.

The transfer policies + Ranieri's starting 11, preferred players, post match reactions etc.

Under Lippi, when Juventus would lose a match, he would admit defeat, analyze the weakness in his post match comments, and bounce right back gradually in the next games. Look at his results with Juve in Scudetto winning seasons: you'll always find like one month where results were poor, where a tough spell was experienced, but he maintained control afterwards.

Under Capello we were at an airtight midfield + defense...with the inability to create anything beautiful in terms of attacking play.

With Ranieri, the team has some weak links which need to be addressed. His team struggles to form a good attack and keep lot's of ball possession - and when the old brigade players such as Del Piero or Nedved show up that's proving to be the turning point in some of our games. Likewise Amauri has shown up as well, sometimes.

It's not like in August 2008, Juve fans were expecting to win Serie A with flying colors; but before the winning streak we noticed some loss of control over the team. There was an injury crisis, and on top of that the cards were played wrong during the games.

Agreed with earlier comments that he shouldn't be axed now - because we don't need imbalance in the team.

But in terms of Cobolli's long-term-we're-building-a-team-to-win-Serie-A-project...I don't see this vision being fulfilled at the current rate.