You didn't think England would actually be a force? Come on, they are rubbish. Macca is great because he plays abroad. But every other player plays in England and that is the problem. The premier league standards are patheic compared to Spain and Italy. That's why Italy, Spain, Holland and Germany are all through because most of their players play in the two leagues. The quality of players as well is very poor. Shearer is crap, Owen hyped up to much, Beckham does a cross and gets called a champion. Macca is the only one who really knows how to play. Your defence would have to be one of the worst. 6 goals in three games is shocking. Come on, get over your selves, England and it's football is overated and it has a bad standard of skill and professionalism. It's simple, this Euro has proved it.