So, according to your twisted logic, points only matter for teams involved in championshipsFor a club in your situation, it doesn't matter as much as it would for Valencia or Real Madrid.. You're not playing for the championship,
Not that anyone will take your word for itand won't be for a while..
ReputationAnd again, if those points mean so much to you, why do you think someone will splash out €8m for him?
so in the top 3 leagues all teams apart from juventus,milan,roma,man utd,chelsea,arsenal,real madrid,valencia,depor have no player valued at 8 million eurosFor big clubs, anything less than a championship is not enough..
If you're ambitions are simply European qualification, none of your players would be worth €8m, let alone a 3rd choice keeper..
yep, compating some one from the portuguese league to a proven international player, how clever of youDidn't Enke come to your club with a good reputation? He was very good at Benfica, came to Barça and failed miserably..
How much did you get for him? Nothing, we took him on loan for 2 weeks!
would the champion goalkeeper from turkey cost 8 million euros if he was 6 months in to a new contract, even in the current climate ?And yes, reputation... what reputation?
The reputation he's got now that he's played and failed at Barça?
The quote "you're only as good as your last game" sticks with the transfer market.. Teams aren't buying the champion goalkeeper that was at Fenerbahçe, their buying Barcelona's shattered keeper!
Why is it stupid? How about if I blame him for the goals he gave up in the losses thenBAFLI said:Blaming Rustu for six points is stupid
Rustu got his chance and didnt take it, while Valdes and Jorquera did.barça said:Why is it stupid? How about if I blame him for the goals he gave up in the losses then
I think even Turkish fans must admit that Rustu has played terrible, that is, imo, easy to see and admit.
And don't say he hasn't had the chances, becuase if he had not, then we would not be saying he has played terrible.
It's true what you say about the GKs and their self-confidence. But you expect much more of a supposed great GK, even if he doesn't have the confidence since the begining.Barça_Fan said:To be honest, I don't think Rüstü has had a fair shot here. To be relegated to the bench can severely damage a goalkeeper's confidence, which is so important for someone of his reputation and position.
For example, take Javier Saviola. This guy was ripping apart defences for fun. And when he came to Barcelona, what did Charly Rexach say, " I didn't want him." What kind of bollocks is that? And what did he do? Relegate a confident, huge prospect to the bench. The next season, he was playing on the wing by Van Gaal, then he was played in his natural position under Antic and under Rijkaard, he's gone straight back to the bench. What kind of player can progress under this mess? Realistically, I don't think Saviola will be nothing out of the ordinary now. We've basically destroyed his career. And he's not the only one. I can name a whole list of players.
By the way, congratulations to Koeman4 and Maz on their new jobs :thumbsup:
I would also add that GK's are different, they need to stay sharp even if they are not playing. Its the nature of their position as there is virtually no subbing in that position. Look at Palop, Cesar and even Valdes.Koeman4 said:It's true what you say about the GKs and their self-confidence. But you expect much more of a supposed great GK, even if he doesn't have the confidence since the begining.
I think Rüstü reached his peak form during the World Cup in 2002. During his last season with Fenerbahçe, he wasn't at his best at all (I heard he had problems with the board?). And during the Confederations Cup, he wasn't brilliant either. I think we got Rüstü at a bad time and relegating him to the bench has severely damaged his already low morale.Koeman4 said:It's true what you say about the GKs and their self-confidence. But you expect much more of a supposed great GK, even if he doesn't have the confidence since the begining.
Saviola seems not to grow more. I think we have seen who is him. Definitely I expected much more from him, but he has never had the confidence of any coach, but Antic. I don't know if he would have been a top striker, but he has arrived to the club in the worst time in years.
Palop is a very rare kind of player, but I don't know about Cesar Wasn't he supposed to go on loan somewhere?barça said:I would also add that GK's are different, they need to stay sharp even if they are not playing. Its the nature of their position as there is virtually no subbing in that position. Look at Palop, Cesar and even Valdes.
And Barça_Fan, I didn't really follow the EPL last year, but didn't Sir Alex change GK's like underwear last year too? Ricardo, Carroll and Barthez, but I am not sure.