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Romario is almost a Flamengo player.

Vasco does not have money to pay his slaary, and a big pol of companies will pay his salaries in Flamengo. He's rejected a move to Italy were he would play in Brescia with Baggio, and wants to stay in Rio!.



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"Quero voltar ao Fla"


Baixinho não quer renovar contrato com o Vasco e diz que faltam alguns
detalhes para acertar a volta à Gávea

Lancepress!

Nada como uma boa viagem para a Europa em família para decidir o futuro
profissional. Neste domingo, Romário voltou de Madri com a cabeça voltada
para a definição do seu novo clube, até porque ele deixou bem claro:
continuar no Vasco é praticamente impossível. Não pelo clube, mas pelo
fato de a diretoria não ter como pagar o salário.

Tudo encaminha para uma volta triunfal ao Flamengo, de onde foi banido
em novembro de 1999. Jogar novamente no Rubro-*****, aliás, é um
desejo do baixinho, conforme revelou neste domingo, no desembarque no
Aeroporto Tom Jobim. Aos 36 anos, ele garante que ainda tem muito
futebol a mostrar aos torcedores.

Vasco

"Eurico Miranda e Luizinho (Moraes, seu procurador) se encontraram. Mas
não falaram de um novo contrato. Eurico queria conversar mais sobre a
dívida que o clube tem comigo. Eurico mesmo não me falou nada sobre
ficar no Vasco. Até já li declarações dele nos jornais dizendo que o clube
não tem condições de pagar o meu salário. Ele tem que entender que
preciso seguir a minha vida. Mas, independente disso, somos amigos".

Camisa imortalizada

"Não resta dúvida de que é uma honra. No Brasil, é a primeira vez que isso
acontece. Até já tomei conhecimento de que a camisa 11 não está sendo
usada pelo Vasco na Copa dos Campeões. Por outro lado, o clube pode
ficar à vontade em voltar a usá-la, porque posso jogar em outro rival".

Flamengo

"Realmente, o clube me faz uma proposta. Da minha parte, existe um
interesse grande em voltar a jogar na Gávea. Faltam apenas alguns
pequenos detalhes. Não tem nada a ver com dinheiro. Se o Flamengo
mantiver o interesse, acredito que vai ter acordo".

Festa da uva

"É um episódio superado. Eles viram que, em relação a grana, perderam
por todos os lados. A história que contaram para o presidente Edmundo dos
Santos Silva não é verídica. Mas ele teve que acreditar".

Futebol paulista

"Existem três clubes de São Paulo interessados na minha contratação.
Quem não gostaria de jogar em clubes de ponta como Corinthians, Santos,
Palmeiras e São Paulo? Mas o problema todo é que não me vejo jogando
fora do Rio".

Europa

"Também recebi propostas de clubes da Europa. O Brescia, da Itália, por
exemplo, queria que eu formasse dupla com Roberto Baggio. Em termos
financeiros é até viável. Mas não me interessei".
 

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Edmundo Santos Silva's Impeachment

Well, it was expected, nobody in Rio is really surprised - Romario at heart is a Flamengo fan, and it's not relly surprising that he wants to end his career over there. I just hope he's as successful this time as he was the last time he played for Flamengo... a complete flop.

About Flamengo, did ya hear about the big event today? Their president, Edmundo Santos Silva, is being right now subjected to an impeachment vote by the club's associates, due to Silva's dishonesty. The Flamengo president pocketed the club's money, paid himself - and his friends - generous percentages of player transfers, and generally skrewed Flamengo big time.

Well, the necessary quorum for voting the impeachment would be 30% of all associates, right? Well, the club's security guards stood by the club's entrance to bar the entrance of the associates, so the quorum wouldn't be reached!!!!!!! :dazed: :eekani: The opposition had to fight physically this foul play,:boxing: and the vote eventually took place - not without a great amount of tension and Edmundo looking really appalled to the TV cameras. :rollani:

The associates' votes are being counted right now. :undecide: Let's hope for the best.
 

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The Impeachment

And it's official: Edmundo Santos Silva was impeached and is no more Flamengo's prez.

A fun fact about the process: When the election hall's doors were closed, only 560 associates were present and the minimum quorum was 568. Edmundo was about to break out the champagne when the opposition party discovered that, out of the official 1.704 voting associates (not all associates vote, only members of the counsel), 110 were actually dead - that information was outdated because there had never been the need to gather all voting associates. :rolleyes: So the minimum quorum had been reached after all. The vote proceeded and Edmundo got the boot. :D
 

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Romario's Failure At Flamengo

Romario was signed by Flamengo to be the star of their 'centenary' year. For the 1st semester - the State Championship - Flamengo hired Romario, Branco, Valber and many others, practically an entire team. And they lost the final to Fluminense, on a last-minute 'tummy-goal' by Renato 'Gaucho' Portaluppi.

Then Flamengo went for the all-or-nothing, to win the Brazilian Championship in the 2nd semester: They signed several more players and built what they announced would be the 'Best Attack in the World': Edmundo, Romario and Savio. :tongue: Ahh, it feels good to remember that year. :rollani: They were humiliated during the entire championship, almost were relegated and ended up watching Botafogo - who had previously thrashed them - raising the trophy. So in their 'Centenary', they paid millions in transfer fees to watch two of their biggest rivals winning all the trophies. :D It became known as the 'Worst Attack in the World'. :howler: The problem was, the egos clashed too hard for the team to get any results; plus they hired a coach who wasn't competent but who was Romario's and Edmundo's buddy. It had to go wrong...

Romario's last stay in Flamengo was filled with these priceless moments: they were eliminated before their own crowd in Maracana stadium many times, because the Flamengo president had the amusing habit of selling 90% of the team everytime they lost a title, then signing a brand new team that would get dismantled again as soon as they lost another title. :dielaugh: :howler:

So Romario won ONE title for Flamengo: a state championship that is to this day remembered as a 'fixed' tournament. Let's just say that the referees gave Flamengo penalties in ALL the matches against smaller teams, sometimes three penalties in one match. One game against Bangu never finished, because the Bangu team left the pitch after the referee announced the umpeteenth penalty... :doh: Flamengo had invested heavily in search of a title - any title - so it's understandable that they would eventually invest in referees as well. :devil:

But the highest point of Romario's career at Flamengo was when they lost to Botafogo's B team. You see, Botafogo had already qualified for the second stage of the State Championship - I think the year was 1997 - and had to play an important Brazilian Cup game three days later. Since we didn't need the result against Flamengo (and Flamengo needed the result to qualify), Botafogo decided to field the B-team, filled with second-stringers and youth players. During the whole week, Flamengo supporters boasted that Romario and Savio would humiliate Botafogo, kick arse, score 348 goals, and basically create a serious trauma for Botafogo supporters. The Flamengo team must've thought it would be really easy too - and they lost to Botafogo's reserves!!!!

Imagine Real Madrid losing to Barcelona's B team, and you'll get an idea of the humiliation.
:D :howler: :party: :dielaugh:

After Romario was kicked out of Flamengo - when he returned to Vasco - Flamengo played the SuperCopa semifinal and final without him, and were champions. That's not considered a trophy won by Romario. So the only thing he won was the 'penalty championship', a somewhat pathethic trophy for a player of his prestige. Romario was never a winner in Flamengo.

It must be said that, during this time, he was champion of the Copa America playing for Brazil's NT. He scored many, many goals. But he simply couldn't raise a decent trophy, because the team was changed every six months. Not his fault, maybe - but there it is. ;)
 

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Garrincha,
DOn';t mistake a bad team with Romario.
He scored 205 goals in 4 years, while all other center forwards in Brazil could not score half of that.

Even when you consider that in the Flamengo teams that he played he had to cope with teh likes Fabao, Luiz Alberto, Iranildo, Mazinho plus a insane president as Klber Leite.

Romario was brilliant at Flamengo, and Flamengo was crap when Romario was there.....well they still continue to be!:( :eek:
 

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Garrincha,

Botafogo salutes victories, :eek:

Flamengo salutes titles :cool: :tongue: :howler:

And Romario, as Savio, didnt their best to Flamengo just because they always were a island into the team, they didnt have good midfielders to feed him when they played for Flamengo.

It was the reason for not many titles.

And thank you GOd Edmundo went away. I hope it be a new start to carioca football.


Garrincha,

Are you missing your team? How many time you cant your team play? :confused:
 

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Ah, yes...

Voimer,
Yeah, I miss my team, and I'm sad that our football calendar and organization is so screwed-up. I mean, you're gloating because Flamengo is playing - you do realize that the in entire world is going through a pre-season, including Botafogo (though, due to circumstances, I wish we weren't), while Flamengo and the other 'lucky clubs' get to participate in a dime-chaser tournament the TV network arranged to have some post-Wc football.

I do wish Botafogo was participating in this State Champions' Cup, because financially the club needs the prizes for participating. The calendar is all wrong, because 95% of all Brazilian clubs aren't in this Cup, and all of them are screwed. Do you think that's good? I'm not asking if you like to see Flamengo among the 'survivors', I suppose you must be. I'm asking if you think it's a good thing for Brazilian football. I think it's a very bad sign, because we can't have a strong league without strong clubs, and vice-versa. Everybody ends up suffering.

So yes, I miss Botafogo and even though I'm full of football after the WC, and could do without it for a couple of weeks, I do wish Botafogo could be playing, and getting the money. :( But what can I do? Only hope for the best, man. :rollani:
 

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Well, in my opinion I think Flamengo defintly need Romário after last seasons failure. And I can´t think of a better end for the magnificent carrer of Romário than winning a big trophy for the club in his heart. Does anyone know if Flamengo are going to try and sign any other players, expecially a midfield playmaker to deliver the passes to Romário?

My portugues isn´t good enough to find out myself. How come spanish and english is just so much easier?:D ;)
 

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I Wouldn't Hold My Breath Waiting For Better Midfielders If I Supported Fla...

Robban,
well, Portuguese is a very difficult language to learn, it's not your fault. ;)

And no, Flamengo isn't hiring anyone else, because former prez Edmundo Santos Silva drained the club's bank accounts dry.

So Flamengo will go with a team formed basically of kids, guys like Andrezinho, Liedson and Andre Bahia. These may be future superstars, but currently there are few experienced players in Flamengo. They are Julio Cesar, Valdson and Athirson. And I guess Caio might be considered experienced, but of course Caio is worthless. :tongue:
 

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If Flamengo goes crazy (what everytime happens), we will sign with Petkovic, who accept reduce his pay.

But i think no this time, it will be like in the past, Romario lonely trying to score! :( :rolleyes:
 

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F.C. Barcelona I suppose!;) Actually I believe that he, just like Ronaldo, is a Flamengo supporter. "O mas quierido" or something like that in portuguese.
 

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the same as his dad ...the ld tradition America from Rio..... then VAsco.

But once he started playing for Flamengo his heart changed due to the fans!;)
 

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Ze da Fiel said:
the same as his dad ...the ld tradition America from Rio..... then VAsco.

But once he started playing for Flamengo his heart changed due to the fans!;)
Actually Ze, I believe Romario was always a Flamengo fan. His dad loves America, yes, and once made Romario promise to someday play at America. So one day Romario played for America during 45 minutes in a friendly (Luisinho Tombo's farewell game, if my damaged braincells don't fail me) and fulfilled his promise. :rolleyes:

I've seen Romario talking about Fla and it really looked like he was talking about his family. :D Returning to Vasco must have really hurt Romario, y'know? He never expeceted to get the boot from Flamengo like he did. Wonder where he'll end his career.
 

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Wonder where he'll end his career.
Not at Flamengo, I hope. :D

I mean, Romario is a great player, a fuoriclasse, a virtuose. But he is also too "special": (a) he cannot work out with the team as he is prone to injuries, (b) he is older and he cannot get the same workload as his teammates and (c) he demands special treatment because all he has achieved in football. Nothing against that in particular. I mean, he has earned whatever privileges and special treatment he demands.

But I believe that his priviledges are bad for the team. He therefore becomes a disruptive element in the group. Someone will eventually become jealous of his priviledges, of his money, of his talent.

Lula is trying to make do with a team of boys, everyone of whom need to prove themselves to be good players, as Juninho is leaving :depress: :frownani:. I believe some will prove themselves. Meanwhile, he's achieved a great victory: he united the group. :) And a united group can go a long way, as the Seleção has shown us. :D
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And everytime Romario has been at Flamengo, you hear about how there are two groups: Romario's friends and those who don't like him. That makes me wish he doesn't ever come back. A divided group cannot go very far.

And for the first time in years I am seriously hoping for a good Brasileirão. I think the manager is doing a good job. :hopefull: These last few years I didn't believe the team would amount to anything. And unfortunately, I was right.:cry:
 
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