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This is becoming a worrying habit. Soon every European NT will have their Brazilian. I can understand when Croatia took Eduardo, he had lived there since he was a kid and became a pro footballer there. But Guerreiro's case is truly pathetic. Came to Poland 2 years ago when he was 23 and now got granted a special citizenshiop from the president so he could be used at EURO2008. :yuck: he doesn't even seem to be anything special considering he's still playing for Legia Warsaw.

And to think that Poland, a football country with long traditions who has been doing well lately, is commiting such an act of travesty . :thmbdwn:
 

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This is complete bullshit. Olisadebe's case was sketchy, but at least he had a hand to play. He'd lived in Poland for a number of years, married a Polish woman, on paper he had a case. But this is blatant recruitment.

End this crap now.
 

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/football...of-petrodollars/2008/02/04/1202090322853.html

To create a competitive national team out of such a limited talent pool was clearly a pipedream. So Qatar began "buying" players from Africa, South America and other parts of Asia who hadn't yet played for their own national teams. By accepting the lure of tax-free petro-dollars in the Q-League, they had to also declare their allegiance to the Qatar national team. For most, it was a no-brainer.

There are now about 19 "naturalised" players playing in the Q-League. New national coach Jorge Fossati has picked nine of them in his extended World Cup squad. About half a dozen could take the field against the Socceroos at the Telstra Dome tomorrow night.

The most famous, Sebastian Quintana, will be absent through suspension. The Uruguay-born forward famously admitted he had to look up the Gulf state on a map before throwing in his lot with Qatar. There's a Senegalese keeper (Mohamed Saqr) and central defender (Abdullah Kone), a Palestinian holding midfielder (Wesam Rizik), a Kuwaiti midfielder (Talal Al-Bloushi) and a giant Mauritanian striker (Sayed Ali Bechir). Just before Christmas, Brazilians Marconi Amaral and Fabio Cesar joined the gold rush.

But it's also true Qatar's pursuit of foreign-born talent doesn't sit too well at FIFA headquarters, where president Sepp Blatter has often remarked it goes against the spirit of the game. Whether Blatter will ever do anything about it, however, is another matter. Mohammed Bin Hammam is the powerful president of the Asian Football Confederation, and a Qatari. He's also getting traction as the man most likely to replace Blatter at the apex of the world game.

Four years ago, the Qatari government opened a $US2 billion sports complex outside Doha. The centrepiece is the ASPIRE football academy. Over the past two years, ASPIRE has screened an estimated 400,000 children in seven different African countries, all aged between 12 and 14. The pick of the crop are invited to the academy to start out on the road to a professional career. They leave behind their parents, but they also leave behind poverty and malnutrition. Qatari officials insist it's not a prerequisite that they eventually declare it their adopted country. But that, most likely, is the reality.


Meh :groan:
 

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I can understand when Croatia took Eduardo, he had lived there since he was a kid and became a pro footballer there.
he left Brasil at 15 scouted by dinamo, how its any different? Imagine Milan going around and picking Pato at 15 and then later Italy calling him up.
 

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POland doesn't produce good players, Boniek's the only one I could think of. They also have eyr limited technical skill so of course they'll go for the Nigerians and Brazilians.

This is a very disturbing trend.
 

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POland doesn't produce good players, Boniek's the only one I could think of. They also have eyr limited technical skill so of course they'll go for the Nigerians and Brazilians.

This is a very disturbing trend.
they won their qualifying group ahead of Portugal

they shouldn't really go for these foreigners, they can do successfully without them
 

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yep Qatar is the worst at this. they actually havent got a single Qatari player in the starting lineup or the bench. maybe the reserve goalie is actually born and bred, but i think it ends there.

when they played iraq recently their strikeforce was a uruguayan and 2 brazilians on either side. and any 'arab' sounding names are not qatari just for those unfamiliar with this team.
 

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POland doesn't produce good players, Boniek's the only one I could think of. They also have eyr limited technical skill so of course they'll go for the Nigerians and Brazilians.

This is a very disturbing trend.
Kazimierz Deyna and Grzegorz Lato were world class, just like Boniek. And don't say they have limited technique when Deyna was one of the classiest players ever to grace the English game.
 

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Kazimierz Deyna and Grzegorz Lato were world class, just like Boniek. And don't say they have limited technique when Deyna was one of the classiest players ever to grace the English game.
Even the technically poor nations produce skillful players once in a while. As of right now Poland's a physical and organized team with poor technical skills.
 

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Who still has qualified to tourno's and betters top teams like Portugal in their group, they shouldnt need to do this disgraceful crap. Even if Qatar is the worst by far, they have zero football tradition, and is a tiny and spoilt little country who affords taking the easy way out. But Poland is one of the bigger countries in Europe, and has a decent enough history in football.

This makes me as a Brazilian proud.... yet sad.
If this guy ever plays against us and scores it would be a freakin disgrace!
How did you feel when Deco came in when it was 8mins left, and Scored the winning goal (great freekick) in his debute game against you? He was just neautralized (created a big fuss in Portugal), and scored the winner against his Brazil. Pretty frigging bizzare.
 

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Poland's qualified for one European Championship, they're minnows historically. Most of their players play at small clubs, it's just that they're extremely organized which helps them.
 

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Dmitriy is a troll, annoying at times, but he's right on this one. We've done almost nothing in the grand scheme of things. And the name dropping happening here refers to the 70s and 80s. Currently we have a modest team, but the results under Beenhakker have been truly impressive. And we don't need this guy.
 

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Who still has qualified to tourno's and betters top teams like Portugal in their group, they shouldnt need to do this disgraceful crap. Even if Qatar is the worst by far, they have zero football tradition, and is a tiny and spoilt little country who affords taking the easy way out. But Poland is one of the bigger countries in Europe, and has a decent enough history in football.



How did you feel when Deco came in when it was 8mins left, and Scored the winning goal (great freekick) in his debute game against you? He was just neautralized (created a big fuss in Portugal), and scored the winner against his Brazil. Pretty frigging bizzare.

Its like Nuri Sahin scoring on his debut for Turkey against Germany, when he could have played for Germany instead.
 

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You think his case is identical to Deco's?
 

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No, I'm saying its similar, how a player scores on his debut in a game between two countries he could play for, although he had a real reason to play for both rather than naturalisation.
 

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I am not sure people actually understand this, but here goes:

The whole point of Interntional football is that one country with 11 (or more including subs) best players play against another team with 11 (plus more) players.

The two teams, with players of their own nationality are to compete to eventually see which team is the best either in their continent or the world.

SO why is it that national teams seem to think its ok to 'hire' players from other countries? As would e the case with Amauri, this with Poland and also as mentioned above with Qatar, I could even say Deco of Portugal, but I am also unsure of his allegance and background.

The simple point is that if your countries best 11 players are not good enough to win or go as far as you would like, then so be it, but is there really a point of 'naturalized' players playing on the NT when they have no background to the country they would play for. He is not Italian, Polish, Qatarian, Portuguese, so why do the countries need him? Its unfair if he is to play on that team and just downright stupid because he is not one of your own.

I understand a player playng if he has a background of that country, or if he moved to the country when he was young, but the cases that some players gain citizenship after being in a country for a few years is just silly. There needs to be a regulation on this from FIFA.
 
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