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I think this guy is a bit of an inconsistent performer. Sorta like a male porn star who makes the girl cum sometimes but other time doesn't even make her notice that he's there. Well anyway, like I was saying I just don't think he's good enough for barca. He would be a good player for someone like Betis where he could improve and then maybe join barca in 3 or 4 years. By the way Saviola will not be as good as Zidane in three years and Madrid will always get the good players when Zidane goes because they will be seen as a successful club, all the same Van Gaal might do well again. Don't see why you guys have such a problem with him. I mean beggers can't be choosers, ye know like it's not like your winning much- no offense.

that's the opposite of barca - > they have no defence. Ah well it's pretty sh!t
 

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No Rocky might not have the tecnique of a Zidane,Kluivert or Rivaldo BUT this guy works and works and works...
He just runs all over the pitch and is pest to play against.
We would be VERY foolish to sell Rochemback. I think we a good playmaker behind Saviola and Kluivert but u still need the players like Rochemback....

Keep him!!!
 
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Wow, that was the biggest load of sh*t ive ever read posted in xtratime history...anyway...

After you got over the fact that your obsessed by male porn stars you made some kind of point about Saviola never being as good as Zidane, well I beleive he wont be as good as Zidane, either ...in fact he'll be better, but its hard to compare players who have such a different role...Zidane is a great playmaker, but unfortunanlty for Real he's on his way out, but like you implied Real Madrid are the kings of buying there teams (as upposed to raising young champions)..they have done this however on occasions.

Saviola has a bright future and no-one should take that away from him, he's skill is undeniable and he settled in so well this season. and about Van Gaal...you'd think we didnt have a choice by the coach we choosed, the sad thing is we did...
 

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Mulgo I like Saviola but he will never be better then Zidane never....
 

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I hope I´m wrong tough;)
 

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Mise_Me_Fein said:
I think this guy is a bit of an inconsistent performer. Sorta like a male porn star who makes the girl cum sometimes but other time doesn't even make her notice that he's there. that's the opposite of barca - > they have no defence. Ah well it's pretty sh!t
errr...why do i get the feeling that you were having a wank while typing this post? never mind...:yuck: :D

saviola cant be as good as zidane...impossible since he plays as a striker, not a midfielder. saviola will definately be the best striker in the world in a few years though...world class already at barca. his pace can take apart the best of defences...his finishing is amazing as well. all that done at such a young age.

can arsenal have him? we will give you jeffers, inamoto, wright, and stepanovs in return. we might even throw in gilles grimandi, but thats your choice! :D :D :D
 

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Re: Re: Rochemback ---> not good enuff for barca????

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can arsenal have him? we will give you jeffers, inamoto, wright, and stepanovs in return. we might even throw in gilles grimandi, but thats your choice! :D :D :D
lol

jeffers is worth 3 saviolas so that a bargain deal. last summer i thought we bought the best young talent but when i found out about the bargain jeffers signing i was so dissapointed barca didnt buy him :(

but really how can everton get away with such robbery?
 

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I think Rochembach, with time, can become a very good defensive midfielder. He can run, he loves to tackle, he wants to win and he can pass. Also, remember this guy is still young and living in a different country - so he needs time to play to his potential.

I like what Ive seen already of him this season and I hope he stays.
 

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he loves to tackle, he wants to win and he can pass.
he even loves to tackle co-players like Kluivert and getting them injured :eek:
I'm not to convinced by his passing-skills, of the full matches (CL-matches) I saw he seemed to lose one of the three balls he passed :eek:
 

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I dopn't think he is the player Barça needs. Nor as a defensive midfielder or as an attacking one. Yes, he gives always 100%, but he is also the midfielder that wastes more passes than any other,and he runs many times like a headless chicken. On the defensive end he is just good but not brilliant either. By the way, Inter representatives will try to sell Seedorf to Barça tomorrow and the player that it is being talked about for a possible swap is Rochemback. IMO, Seedorf, with the right frame of mind, could give to Barça much more than Fabio: a better passer of the ball, better dribler, better crosser, and better defender when he wants to. I would take the risk of getting Seedorf if it is a straight swap for Rochemback.
 

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for me rochemback is for the italian league. seedorf is the type of player that the fans will take to. if we free up another non eu place maybe we can purchase someone else aswell. geovanni should also be loaned and we could get lucio/juan and ronaldinho.
 

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GJ> Please, Seedorf? The only teams that Seedorf can peform well against are really useless one. He has proved it when he played for both Real and now Inter. At least Rochemback´s match against Galatasray helped us through in the Champions League. Or just like Cruyff said about Seedorf; "I´ve never seen a player wanting the ball as much as Seedorf without any idea wathsoever what to do with it once he gets it". I think that´s the perfect description of this overrated loser who always runs in no-mans land and wouldn´t provide our team with anything. Seedorf? No thanks! I´d rather throw the money away.
 

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Robban, have you seen Juventus - Inter where Seedorf scored two worldclass goals? And you might say Juventus - Inter isn't a useless match...

But I wouldn't like to see Seedorf in Barcelona either, he can't perform in the Dutch NT so how could he perform in Barcelona? :rollani:
 

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If Seedorf doesn't know what to do with the ball I just wonder what the opinion of Cruyff on Rochemback would be. I know that Seedorf has had many lows in his career, but I prefer to look at the highs. At the age of 18 he won the Champions League with Ajax, and he was an instrumental part of it. That's why he got this contract with Sampdoria, being so young when the Italian league was the best in the world. Then he moved to Real Madrid bought by Capello and his first year was excellent, much better than Rochemback ever will be (just ask veteran Real Madrid supporters, or even cules). After that he started to act like a prima donna, and his career went down. I know it is a risk getting Seedorf, but at least it is a risk of getting a potentially very good player, and with Rochemback my feeling is that he will never be that, just an average midfielder. By the way, this move is not the one I am putting all my hopes on, if you know what I mean.
 

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the thing with rochemback is that, he takes up a non-eu slot. I think he has alot of potential.... you have to remember he is pretty young.. and midfielders generaly take the longest to develop..

But the problem is he is taking a precious non-EU slot... which we could be using for a already developed south american, like say.... SALAS or CRESPO...

given the general feeling of this thread..

Giovanni+rochemback were both busts... hmm... we could have bought RVN or Veron with that money.. no?

I hope we don't become like italian teams changing our entire squad every year... lets just add 1 or 2 players.
 

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Guys, let`s be real. Yes, Seedorf had a lot of successes. In the past. For now the guy sucks. Juve - Inter match? Even a stick can shoot once a year! Seedorf isn`t a world class player anymore. He is useless: he isn`t a great dribler, passer or playmaker and he isn`t a fighter and defender too. Yes, Rocky wasn`t a big man too. But if we will change Rocky, I pray it won`t be Seedorf who will come here instead. Bring Di Biaggio or Gattuso - I will understand the move. Clarens? Once a white puta - always a puta. ;)

LE21 - you are the exception!
 

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I agree completly with Laska. The goals he scored against Inter were very nice. He also scored a couple of nice goals for Real. But thats it. He never takes comand over a midfield against better teams. He was the weakest link in Real´s midfield. He and Redondo didn´t do much well during their seasons together. He has a good shot, but that´s about it. He´s a very avarge player. I´m suprised that you defend him "GJ", you usually know alot about the players?;) I can also add that I also usually score once or twice on a longshot when I play summer football in divison 6, but that doesn´t make me an intersting player for Barça...
 

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but the question is overmars or seedorf?

rather none but seedorf id choose
 

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Robban said:
I agree completly with Laska. The goals he scored against Inter were very nice. He also scored a couple of nice goals for Real. But thats it. He never takes comand over a midfield against better teams. He was the weakest link in Real´s midfield. He and Redondo didn´t do much well during their seasons together. He has a good shot, but that´s about it. He´s a very avarge player. I´m suprised that you defend him "GJ", you usually know alot about the players?;) I can also add that I also usually score once or twice on a longshot when I play summer football in divison 6, but that doesn´t make me an intersting player for Barça...

Robban, how many games in thew season 96-97 did you watch Seedorf play? I was living in Madrid at the time and I can tell you that the majority of Real supporters were very happy with the perfomance of Seedorf, a tremendous ball winner who could also play. Michel, the former Real madrid star said that Sedorf has all the techical skills to succeded, and only his temperament lets him down. Anyway, apparently, now Van Gaal doesn't want reinforcements for the midfield.
 
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