Revivo name calling at the weekend game?

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Kappa18

Discussion Starter · Apr 16, 2002

I heard from the Israeli Newspapers that Haim Revivo was cursed bad names on the feild in the 2-0 win over Bestikas, in the weekend.

Some fans were screaming about him and made some remarks about Israel, to Revivo!

Can anyone confirm this with me? I just heard of it today.
And i also heard that there was an Anti-Israel demonstration and people used Haim Revivo's Jersey to make there point

you know.....this kinda makes Revivo a little itchy of going to the feild with all this hatred and pogroms being afflicted to him

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Aragon

· #2 · Apr 16, 2002

Some fans were screaming about him and made some remarks about Israel, to Revivo!

Yeah, I heard similar things. I don't think it had anything to do with politics though. They just tried to demoralize him. Besiktas fans did the same thing to former Besiktas player Alpay when he transfered to Fenerbahce

On the other hand, all Fenerbahce fans supported him. 1500 Fenerbahce fans versus 25000 Besiktas fans, of course it didn't work

As long as we play in Kadikoy he won't get any mistreatment from the fans

But when we play away games, unfortunately the same thing will happen.

Kappa18

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 16, 2002

Its not the game. it was also on the streets.

As far as i read correctly, there was a demonstation for palestinians and people used REVIVO as a way of means. Im not sure what happened, and im not getting the picture across, but i seem to get it the the non-fenerbahce/football fans have been a little more dissele for revivo playing in Turkey as turkey is prodomantly Muslims, with maybe less than 250,000 in another relgion (including 24,000 JEWISH PEOPLE!! YAAAAAAY!)

But overall, i hope it won't deteriorate! Turkey is a peaceful country!

i've been there, so i don't tell it as a hoax! I just hope that the fans would be a little more mature (the Bestikas)

Deniz

· #4 · Apr 16, 2002

Well the rallies have been nothing like those in other countries, they are not even as big as the ones in several European countries, but I read about it too.

I don't think that Revivo will be in any danger. THe fans of opposing teams will use it to get in his head. But I think that if Haim ignores these idiots, then he has nothing to worry about.

Esperar

· #5 · Apr 16, 2002

Kappa18 said:
Its not the game. it was also on the streets.

As far as i read correctly, there was a demonstation for palestinians and people used REVIVO as a way of means. Im not sure what happened, and im not getting the picture across, but i seem to get it the the non-fenerbahce/football fans have been a little more dissele for revivo playing in Turkey as turkey is prodomantly Muslims, with maybe less than 250,000 in another relgion (including 24,000 JEWISH PEOPLE!! YAAAAAAY!)

But overall, i hope it won't deteriorate! Turkey is a peaceful country! i've been there, so i don't tell it as a hoax! I just hope that the fans would be a little more mature (the Bestikas)

on one hand I dont find that it`s wrong to make a protest against something you don?t agree with... Turkey wants to be a democratic country, where everyone can say his opinion. So I think there is no problem with the protests, as long as they are not racist, violent, unfair, seperatist...

I hate the prejudices spread by uneducated, provocating people on some of these protests!!! But I have nothing against protests in general...

Gilli

· #6 · Apr 16, 2002

They also burnt a Revivo shirt and told him he should get away from Turkey. I don't care if someone demonstrates but it is idiotic to think Revivo has anything to do with the political ongoings somewhere on this planet and that a protest against him would change anything.

Also let's not get into politics as this site has a hars restriction against it. Thanks.

Esperar

· #7 · Apr 16, 2002

Raanan said:
They also burnt a Revivo shirt and told him he should get away from Turkey. I don't care if someone demonstrates but it is idiotic to think Revivo has anything to do with the political ongoings somewhere on this planet and that a protest against him would change anything.

Also let's not get into politics as this site has a hars restriction against it. Thanks. [/QUOTE

yes, I also don`t want to comment the details, but like I`ve metioned before: THERE ARE UNEDUCATED, PROVOCATING people spreading precudices on some protests. In every country there are people like this... You cannot imagine what kind of protests and what kind of opinions in German are! Anyways, it is becoming too long and too detailed.. Who cares....

Let`s live in harmony here at least !

Kappa18

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 16, 2002

Its not a matter of prank or real protest!

When you protests against anything, and you show revivo as a sign or amabassador to Israel, it will make some news, but think of the emotion revivo's going threw! Many would dare say what he said in the Israeli newspapers back in last year that he encouraged fans to come, after many were scared to travel to Turkey, citing fears of being attacked by Islamic Extremists. None the less, some did make it to Turkey and it was something worth seeing, but then it all ended when i belive a rich jewish business man in istanbul was gunned down!

Fans stop coming!

And if revivo is scared, why bother to make an extra extended contracts

Im pretty sure, most of the most notable fans and even other fans of other clubs are against hatred on a player! :9

fenerbahce_2000

· #9 · Apr 17, 2002

kappa i think ur talking about uzeyir garih, alarko's ceo.

he was jewish, but i don't believe his death had anything to do with religion, as he was as turkish as anyone else in turkey.

i don't think that revivo will be scared of some iditots saying stupidities. he knows that they're doing it to intimidate him, and he is a professional after all!

Kappa18

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 17, 2002

I hope so

I trust the turkish authority!

I been there, so i would know!

theres nice people on the streets and not much crime! Probably impossible to get raped there too! I assume!

but on any note...

it is a safe city without crime and hatred!

Revivo actually invites Israeli fans to come and enjoy a Fener game, eventhough much are afraid some are willing to go, only to the Home games

i heard from many that if your israeli and go to see Fener, than you would be lynched with hand shakes and hellos

This is the kinda thing that i like!

fenerbahce_2000

· #11 · Apr 19, 2002

eventhough much are afraid

kappa, but this is a laughable concept, speaking about those that are afraid of course, i think you know us a bit better.

the only thing foreigners have to worry about in turkey is being overcharged a bit for the occasional cab ride and such.

Deniz

· #12 · Apr 19, 2002

fenerbahce_2000 said:
the only thing foreigners have to worry about in turkey is being overcharged a bit for the occasional cab ride and such.

that part is certainly true

We look like tourists since we wear shorts in the summer when we are there, so it is a common occurence for a cab driver to start speaking slowly in broken English, while trying to rip us off on the ride.

then my dad answers in Turkish:devil:

Esperar

· #13 · Apr 19, 2002

Deniz said:
that part is certainly true

We look like tourists since we wear shorts in the summer when we are there, so it is a common occurence for a cab driver to start speaking slowly in broken English, while trying to rip us off on the ride.

then my dad answers in Turkish:devil:

:dielaugh:

that sounds familiar to me!

Also I hate when they ask the tourists: "Merhabe, how can I help to spend (=waste) your money?" And the tourist laugh like it was funny

Kappa18

Discussion Starter · #14 · Apr 19, 2002

I know you guys good

I never knew about the cab thing though. In Israel our Cabs are pretty nice!

we have state of the art cab systems! I sometimes thought cabbing is a horrible job, but in Israel you have a Union and you drive BMW, Mercedes, Penugeont, FIAT and SKODA which i find pretty cool

and they give you the coolest things ever like those mini-palm pilots and a nice phone! Plus some weapons here and there!

but there are people who rip you off, but than again, they want to make a business so you might eventually rip them off

I got a ride from tel aviv back to the place, which is about 30 minutes for 30 shekels (like 12 US).....and he wanted around 70 shekels!

looks like i made a profit!

Hakan

· #15 · Apr 21, 2002

No matter what your political beliefs are in any situation, slating or placing the blame on any person not involved is wrong. It's the same I guess as the common racism you get on the street. Muzzy Izzet received and still does, abuse from Leeds fans after the Gala incident. And apart from make a mockery of your everyday footie fan, is illogical and cheap.

And as for the cab drivers

One word of advice to those going to Turkey (particularly in the market place) is, hold a Turkish newpaper in your hand (make sure it's visible). When I went, I had every hello from Italian, Danish, English to French (I imagine 'cos I don't look like the stereotypical Turk

). On the second day however, I brought the paper, and hey presto! an enjoyable stroll.

It may help to know a few words in Turkish though...

Kappa18

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 21, 2002

So the Turkish Cabbies are bad

Are they atleast nice and clean and new???

I would like to drive in one of them SKODA'S....

How cold is it in Istanbul around March/April?

Deniz

· #17 · Apr 22, 2002

The weather is usually pretty nice at that time. When we go in the summer, it is too hot even though we are in the Deep South.

The taxi cabs are somewhat new, but a lot of them have liquid propane gas, so make sure that your driver does not get in a car wreck

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