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How are you guys doing?

I beat the only team that was still having a chance to catch up one me (1 point difference) with an impressive 0-6 today. I'm not sure if he played with his best team, for some strange reason he seems to have played a lot of reserves :undecide: I just need 3 points now to reach promotion. It will take a miracle for me to lose points in the next two games, let alone avoid promotion.

1. FK Bo$na 12 11 1 0 73 13 60 34
2. buffalo forever 12 10 0 2 62 23 39 30
3. elguyba 12 7 1 4 42 36 6 22
4. rsc MC 12 5 1 6 34 39 -5 16
5. fc rood en wit 12 4 1 7 21 37 -16 13
6. Surfiesta 2005 12 4 1 7 40 59 -19 13
7. bbc juniors 12 2 1 9 11 33 -22 7
8. Barlexus 12 2 0 10 8 51 -43 6
 

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season over ... lost 3 games with a min score to top 2 teams. probably in 2 they MOTSed but who cares. Now I am selling all the dead wood, lets see how much i can ged rid of. I really hope the N1 team finally gets out of the group as top 3 are really way to strng for bottom Vi division:

1. Monster Stars 12 11 0 1 62 9 53 33
2. FC Kaspichan 12 10 0 2 55 10 45 30
3. Puldin Plovdiv 12 9 0 3 62 10 52 27
4. No change Chippo 12 7 0 5 37 25 12 21
5. MARS UNITED FC 12 6 0 6 34 29 5 18
6. FC B.Munchen Invite 12 1 3 8 8 53 -45 6
7. F.C.BogKa CnuPT Invite 12 1 2 9 11 68 -57 5
8. Septemvri 1996 Invite 12 0 1 11 1 66 -65 1
 

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Have you read this bono:

The HFA (Hattrick Football Association) has decided to demote bot teams to the lowest possible division at this season’s end, and also to stop bot teams from promoting. Instead, some of you will promote "for free" and take their place higher up in the league pyramid.

The purpose with this change is to move bots to the bottom of the series system, and let all of you play higher up against each other. With this change most of you will play against more teams managed by real people instead of boring bots, which will spice up the competition as well as your manager life.

This new (and permanent) system will be in effect from this season's end, and be valid from division VI and down (bots in div V and up will continue using today's rules). Read on for all the details of this change.

Let's face it, it's much more fun to play against real people instead of robot teams. Bot teams fill an important role in the game world as transit teams, or to fill out leagues and series where there aren’t enough real teams. But they will never be able to replace the challenge from another person’s mind.

So at this season's end we will introduce new permanent rules for how bot teams promote and demote, which also will affect promotion for real teams at the same time. As much as possible we want real teams to be among other real teams (and bots among other bots). This is how the new system is going to work:

Promotion and demotion for bots:
All bot teams in div 6 and lower will demote to the lowest possible division. This regardless if they finish in 1st, 3rd or 5th place, they will always demote to the bottom. There is one exception though: in div VI, bots finishing 1st will promote or play a qualifier. So a bot team finishing 2nd in division VII, for example, can therefore be demoted all the way down to division X (if that division isn’t full of bots already).

This naturally also means that bot teams will not promote either (apart from promotion from div VI to V as mentioned above). The lovely result of all of this is that bots will quite quickly end up in the bottom - and stay there.

Real teams take bot teams' positions
When bot teams demote, real teams will take their positions instead. So, even if you don't finish on a promotion place there is still a chance that you will promote. Promote "for free", so to say. You can however only be promoted one division at a time.

These extra promotions will be based on league ranking, just like normal promotions. The highest ranked team in division 7 (that hasn't already qualified for promotion) will be the first to take a demoting bot team's place in div 6, and so on. For the cup, teams getting an extra promotion will also take the bot team’s position in the cup (if the bot was qualified for the cup).

No promotion money
If you promote “for free” you will not get any promotion money from the HFA. Your fans will however celebrate it as a normal promotion, and your fan club will get 10% more members. Your fans will also give you a soft start and won’t expect too much of you in the higher division.

Demoting teams will always demote
Please note that demoting real teams will always demote. If you finish last you will demote even if there are bots to be demoted from your division (or even your own series). It’s the teams from the division below that will promote and take the demoted bots' places. The only exception is if there is no real team to promote from the division below, then you will stay in your series even if you finish last.

New rules are valid from div 6 and down
These new rules are valid from div VI and down, and so do not apply to the whole series system. Div V and up will still use today's promotion/demotion rules for bots (and as mentioned above, any bot on 1st or 2nd place in div VI (quite rare in most of the world) will also use the old rules). Still, there are not that many bots above div VI (more than 99% of the bots play in div VI or lower).

The reason for keeping things as they are in div V and up is because they have qualifiers, and it's a lot trickier to create a system covering that too (at least as a part in a first step).

Divisions full of bots will close
If the whole lowest division in a league contains only bots, HFA will close that division and remove it from the series system. This to stop new teams from entering a division full of bot teams. In case there later on is no place for new users to join (all teams are taken), the removed division can easily be attached to the series system again.

Example of the coming scenario
This first time a lot of teams will be promoted "for free", as a lot of bots will be demoted to the bottom. At the end of next season there will naturally be a lot less free promotions. But to give you a good view on which impact this will have on the gameplay:

In Spain there are 28157 bot teams. Today 6336 play in div XI, 11086 in X, 5521 in IX, 2942 in VIII, 1517 in VII and 651 in VI. Next season there will be 24 bots in div VI and 28029 in XI, and no bots at all in div VII, VIII, IX or X.

(Please note that these are preliminary figures, there may be some small differences in the final scenario – but it still gives you a good picture of this change)

I don't want to promote "for free"
If you for some reason don't want to promote "for free" and meet new challenges; HFA offers you the possibility to refuse on your preferences page. On Wednesday, such a setting will be found on your preference page. The default will be accepting promotion. This setting naturally only applies for “extra promotion”, not ordinary promotion.

But remember, the HFA will not accept no as answer if you’re playing in the lowest division. If extra slots are available in the division above, you will promote anyway as any other choice will mean new users would be given a very boring start of their Hattrick career playing mostly bots. otherwise.
You might still clinch promotion.
 

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I am in VI. To clinch from 2nd or 3 spot, they have to do this for bots in V. If I read that well, they will not do that. Happy to correct me if I am wrong.
This new (and permanent) system will be in effect from this season's end, and be valid from division VI and down (bots in div V and up will continue using today's rules).
 

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Code:
1. L.T. Gingelom       12   9   1   2   42   12   30   28
2. FC.Stealen Ants     12   8   2   2   43   12   31   26
3. appelterre90        12   6   3   3   24   18   6    21
4. I Pirati Viola      12   7   0   5   29   28   1    21
5. FC Duveltjes        12   4   4   4   33   36   -3   16
6. REAL Verhamme       12   5   0   7   30   38   -8   15
7. depenisvanjezus     12   2   1   9   12   41   -29   7
8. malinwaa            12   1   1   10   8   36   -28   4

Next year in VIII due to the BOT removals. Pity IX will disappear, as I hoped on an extra season in IX. Would have ben beneficial for my financial balance, such an extra year of 100% skilltrading :proud:
 

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It wont be easy in VIII for you if you only finished 4th in IX but on the other hand there will be a lot of teams who gained promotion the way you did. So with a bit of luck you can avoid being a relegation candidate.

How many fans do u guys have and how many do you gain? I only get 6 these days (12 a week in total) because I seem to have reached the limit for my division (1 248 at the moment).
 

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It wont be easy in VIII for you if you only finished 4th in IX but on the other hand there will be a lot of teams who gained promotion the way you did. So with a bit of luck you can avoid being a relegation candidate.
I've only played 5 games since getting this team. Would have been in the top 2 if I didn't suffer a huge random in the top game against the #1 [game id: (246845645)]

I don't care to be a possible relegation candidate to be honest. It will be a season of 50% training (just 3 trainees instead of 6). With the other 5 vacant spots I'll skilltrade. And if that goes as good as this season, I'll be soon enough in V :pp It's just about the money in the first 3 full seasons I'm going to play :D
 

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i am missing sth here? why would do a 3 and not all 6 trainees next season? What are the reasons for such decision?
It will be a season of 50% training (just 3 trainees instead of 6). With the other 5 vacant spots I'll skilltrade.
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Skilltrading is just a fast way up towards the higher leages. And as I know perfectly which players are close to a skill pop, it's pretty easy money :proud: I'm convinced I'll make more money by skilltrading with 5 (3 inner midfield + 2 wing) spots than by regular training :)
 

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tell me more, give me examples of one and the other?
Next season, when I have my start budget I'll be able to make €300.000 a week by trading players. So I buy a player who is close to a skill raise, let him train for a week at my club, to sell him immediately after he raised.

€300.000 a week means about €4.5 million a year. There simply is no training where a small club like mine can earn that amount of money in one season.

So next season I'll only train 3 players for a whole season, the next season I'll train for, the next one 5 and the next one 6. By that time I will have collected a nice amount of money which should help me to make some steps up quite easely.
 

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bono, before you start shooting, i remember talking about this skill-trading business but i did not recommend it and still dont. the cons imho is that you turn into some sort of revolving door team; demoting and promoting in no time. reason is that you would either waste your dough on upgrading your team and stay uncompetitive or you do not spend a dime, tough choices imho!
 

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Yeah very unlucky to lose that one bono.

I myself am first in my new league, I expected to fight against relegation but I guess even a title isn't out of question with some luck. I don't have the best team in the league but it's all close. I'll also have around 3.5 million in a few days to buy new trainees and strenghten my team.
 

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My new player:




Renzo Ceroni (162661404)
25 years and 94 days, Next birthday: 11-02-2010
In inadequate form, excellent stamina.
A popular guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has weak experience and weak leadership abilities.


Owner: FK Bo$na (since 24-01-2010)
Total Skill Index (TSI): 101 950
Wage: 70 140 €/week including 20% bonus
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy
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Current skills
Keeper: disastrous
Defending: wretched
Playmaking: extra-terrestrial
Winger: inadequate
Passing: poor
Scoring: poor
Set pieces: inadequate



:proud:
 

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My new player:




Renzo Ceroni (162661404)
25 years and 94 days, Next birthday: 11-02-2010
In inadequate form, excellent stamina.
A popular guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has weak experience and weak leadership abilities.


Owner: FK Bo$na (since 24-01-2010)
Total Skill Index (TSI): 101 950
Wage: 70 140 €/week including 20% bonus
Warnings: 0
Injuries: Healthy
Loading...
Current skills
Keeper: disastrous
Defending: wretched
Playmaking: extra-terrestrial
Winger: inadequate
Passing: poor
Scoring: poor
Set pieces: inadequate



:proud:
To be trained on passing I assume ? Would be a weird move otherwise. Surely you don't need ET players in VII :)
 
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