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I wanna make a prediction here

Zidane takes France in the next 4 years
And returns to Madrid after that

Take my word to the bank

In the process he makes feiends with. Mbappe and convince him to move to Madrid while staying Sporting Director at Madrid or some other role

This is a perfectly invented scheme by with Floro and Zizou

I wont be surprised he wins Euro and WC with France

Also takes Benzy back to the NT
 

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Has Bale even posted anything yet on ZZ leaving?
 

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Just watched Zidanes press
And i am sure that he left cos of Some player

I assume its Ronaldo.i have no clue what but its Ronaldo and Bale for sure

Probably also some transfer decisions that Ronaldo or some other players were interfering into

He said few times that i think the players feel like they need a different more competent coach

He kept saying that i dot forget the bashing that happened during the year

And he kept saying most important that seems like i am not good enough anymore and they need better coach from what i have seen

Insulating that probably some players were dissatisfied with him and the fans of course at one point

What strikes me most is e repeats the fact that this is a great club and they constantly need perfection insinuating that he is not good enough or maybe appreciated

Also

Perez telling him "We understand if you need a rest but we will be waiting for your return"

No one mentioned this.This is Huge.this means that they really were not ready for this and that they do not wanna lose him long term

Also this signifies that he probably wont take any other job in the meantime
 

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As i am listening also

Zidane says "i am not coaching any other tram"

It seems to me that he might even be back after a year from this narrative

Maybe he wants to show the world that he did amazing job and wants to let anyone else see how hard it is to lead this team

And i can really understand this

Some people demand his sacking mid season
 

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Just watched Zidanes press
And i am sure that he left cos of Some player

I assume its Ronaldo.i have no clue what but its Ronaldo and Bale for sure

Probably also some transfer decisions that Ronaldo or some other players were interfering into

He said few times that i think the players feel like they need a different more competent coach

He kept saying that i dot forget the bashing that happened during the year

And he kept saying most important that seems like i am not good enough anymore and they need better coach from what i have seen

Insulating that probably some players were dissatisfied with him and the fans of course at one point

What strikes me most is e repeats the fact that this is a great club and they constantly need perfection insinuating that he is not good enough or maybe appreciated

Also

Perez telling him "We understand if you need a rest but we will be waiting for your return"

No one mentioned this.This is Huge.this means that they really were not ready for this and that they do not wanna lose him long term

Also this signifies that he probably wont take any other job in the meantime
dagoods fault :D
 

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Ok i watched it twice and first i must say
Many quotes on twitter are sooo wrongly translated

Like half of them are wrongly translated

Like the one when Zidane explained his best moment at Madrid was when Florentino signed him was actually translated as "when Florentino was praising me"

That is nowhere close translation

Second one he never says tired of coaching.He said i am kind of disgusted meaning kind of like bored or not motivated and most important

Most most most important of all

Is that twitter quoted him saying "i wont tell you where i am going next"

He never said that i watched and listened twice

He under contrary said i am not gonna search for a club i am resting.

Also i get the feeling that we will have some scapegoat coach for one of two seasons before Zidane is back

Ha also said "i am not going away from this club like the president this is not a good bye,but see you soon" which means he already promised the club to return also adding more fuel to this opinion of mine is the fact that Florentino said at start directly to Zidane "if you need rest we have no problem with that,but we will see you soon"

I think that maybe even the club thought lets not burn Zidane in this transition season and let someone other scapegoat take all the blame for it.it makes all sense now

And no Florentino was not looking at all stressed as the Twitter and other outlets say

As a matter of fact i feel like they are have planned this together

The only job i think Zizou is taking is French NT or maybe none.My guess is none.

Damn i think he is even gonna take the NT job to Lure Mbappe in Madrid.You never know :) damnnn that might be genius from both of them
 

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Been in shock most of the day about ZZ’s announcement. Never would you think he would resign just days after the triumph.

On Wednesday, Perez, ZZ and Jose Sanchez met to discuss the squad and plans etc. It’s not beyond the realms that Perez and Sanchez may have said we want Bale to stay and be more involved, plus maybe replacing Navas etc.
Zidane slept on it and today announced he was resigning. That would have played a part in that he trusts Navas, Lucas etc and didn’t want them to be phased out.

Moreover the stunt Bale pulled would have hurt him too, he had ample chances under ZZ in past seasons, yet Bale pulls that crap on the pitch just moments after the final whistle.

The liga campaign would be a 3rd factor, he trains day in, day out and that is implanted in the league. Yet the squad let him down big time, maybe they were not taking his instructions and training on board.
Bale as of yet has not posted anything about ZZ on Twitter or his Insta! He’s been active today and that’s pretty disgraceful. No excuse for that. That's a sellable point. Zidane stuck with him several times, yet not even a public thank you.


BTW, 6 of the 11 that started are 30 and over
 

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Some good points:
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Now is the time to bring in a coach who has either a particular style, or a trust in younger players. The current Real Madrid squad is great, but there are lots of fantastic young players on their books that need to gradually be given more responsibility

Real shame to see the likes of Theo, Marcos Llorente and Dani Ceballos go stagnant this season, but the trophy record under Zidane is obviously fantastic. Winning on more fronts with a deeper use of the squad is now the requirement.

Agree with Zidane that Real Madrid need to change to keep winning. Things got very predictable in LaLiga, the Champions League was just a different kettle of fish entirely.

Even when they won the title, they had a particular way of playing that was predictable but their mentality carried them through. These things get tired, for me it explains why in a shorter competition like the Champions League they found it easier to keep up their momentum.

It will be refreshing to see Real Madrid playing in a different style, what they’ve achieved has been brilliant in Europe, but domestically this season hasn’t been up to scratch. Someone who puts more stock in tactical thinking would add a different edge to a great squad.
 

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Almost every Madrid player who has social media has taken to it to pay tribute to Zizou. With one notable except11on
 

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Yup and it might be possible that Zidane did not even argue with anyone but just told them i leave

And Bales sad face every time he scored was also huge sign

We will probably never know
As he was repeating "some people think i was not good enough,the standards here are high,etc" in his press conference

I only wanna know one thing.did he made this decision without previously consulting Floro or he just made the decision

Obviously something happened cos recently he was talking about the next season and now this

Ronaldo also said that stupid thing that he will announce to fans after 10 days right at the celebration

Maybe Zizou will wait for the clean up of BBC before he returns
 

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Zidane won't come back for 3 seasons if he does.

In a way it serves Perez right, it’s Karma.
He panders to the ego of some players, and that’s why Bale did that on the same night as the win!
Perez will have learnt a lesson hopefully, keep your distance and learn to back your coach instead of the players. Too late though, its cost him the most successful manager.

If I was Perez, I would have slapped Bale down on Sunday, Get me £100m from a team and be gone, you don’t make threats to the manager or Real Madrid. No player is guaranteed starts, heck even CR was rotated, yet he felt he was not benchable. No point turning it when the league has gone.
 

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WHY ARE all the Madridistas upset? We didn't lose Rinus Michels. We are talking about that Zidane, an average tactician at best.
I can only think of one game and one game only when I was impressed by his tactical nous. Which game? His first clasico at the Camp Nou. He's had a great team, the man was able to deal with egos to perfection - I'll give him that much.

He remained loyal to his players, clearly he's leaving because he didn't want to clean house and that's what he was going to be forced to do. Thank you for everything Zidane but it's time to rebuild and make this team even stronger!

HALA MADRID!

My top 3 picks:

1. BIELSA
2. NESTA
3. GUARDIOLA
 

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Zidane won't come back for 3 seasons if he does.



In a way it serves Perez right, it’s Karma.

He panders to the ego of some players, and that’s why Bale did that on the same night as the win!

Perez will have learnt a lesson hopefully, keep your distance and learn to back your coach instead of the players. Too late though, its cost him the most successful manager.



If I was Perez, I would have slapped Bale down on Sunday, Get me £100m from a team and be gone, you don’t make threats to the manager or Real Madrid. No player is guaranteed starts, heck even CR was rotated, yet he felt he was not benchable. No point turning it when the league has gone.


This might be it
Bale was refusing to perform at one point and was benched
Then gets in from bench and plays extra hard and scores two goals in the final and now all of a sudden all what Zidane did was erased or to say it mildly probably ignored by Perez when negotiating with Gareth

Probably Gareth had a conv with Perez and the latter offered him more playing time without even consulting Zidane and it resulted in Zizou simple resigning with no ifs and buts

Which is understandable cos he seems to get no credit for his amazing work but once next year Gareth fails to deliver again we will go back crawling after Zizou
 

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Well said.

Zidane always favoured him in past seasons, we used to say BBC does not work, yet Zidane stuck with it.
He get injured, Isco played well and the diamond killed it for us.

Yes Bale scores, but he offers nothing in games, almost on the periphery and never takes the game by the horns. He may be best sold, dressing room may harbour some resentment towards him.

I'd would not even blink if if was Hazard or Bale, Hazard all day, every day.
 

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IMO, I don't think it was any player in particular. I had a discussion with my friends on Sat that even though the win was historic, I could tell the players glad, more than overly happy. There was a certain routine to the celebrations. I'm pretty sure Zidane saw that, and realized that it was going to be damn near impossible to get them to focus week in week out in order to win the league. The signs were there this year, as we dropped easy point due to lack of focus, especially early on.

As far as Bale, even though I'm against his timing, I understand what he did. This was the best time for him to express his discomfort with the situation. His stock was at its highest, and that was the only time, when his treats will have greater values.

CR7, was just petty.
 

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I am thinking about Bales situation and more and more i am convinced that Florentino on the first attempt to talk to Zizou about Bales role in the team and how we should build around him Zidane decided its enough

I cant be more sure that this happened

The fact that Zizou did not bring any player yet and cant even make decisions about the one that are in the club while winning 3 CLs

I am sure Floro even tried to reverse the conversation Zidane probably said.

Nope i am done for now..Call me when u wanna give me kore control over the team and when Bale is gone
 

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"In Madrid this snap exit from Zidane was surprising for the timing, but was not a surprise [overall]. They have been planning the new season for a few days, and there had been some disappointments, and a strange atmosphere from the night of the final when Cristiano Ronaldo had his diva moment and said he was finished with Madrid. The dressingroom should have been a party, but became a den of rumours... Then the planning began for next season, with the photo for next season without Ronaldo. The club felt they needed certain players, including a goalkeeper, Zidane did not agree in some things. And something broke yesterday afternoon, when Zidane said that without certain conditions he would not continue. Florentino tried to put out the fire, but Zidane was even stronger and more radical this morning and said he was leaving."

Bale cost Carlo his job, now this too.
 
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