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HOMOGENIZACIJA

(Ne)sreèni princ konec jeseni konèane slovenske nogometne pravljice Sreèko Katanec živi pod Šmarno goro tako rekoè izolirano od javnega življenja, javni pomp okrog domnevne (ne)kandidature za vrnitev na selektorski položaj po polomu s Hrvati pa ga je le prisilil, da je osebnemu finanènemu svetovalcu Ivanu Simièu naroèil kratko sporoèilce za javnost: me ne zanima. Malo pozneje je tacenskemu sosedu Jožetu Okornu v intervjuju za Dnevnik podrobno razložil burne spomine, prejšnji teden pa me je prek nerazdružljivega sodelavca in prijatelja Rudija Zavrla povabil na golaž v Šestico. V dobri uri in nisva našla soglasja o tisti znameniti sporni menjavi na tekmi Slovenija – Jugoslavija v Charleroiju na Evru, povsem pa sva se strinjala o mnogih usodnejših zadevah. Predvsem o tem, da je Slovenija v prvih kvalifikacijah za EP 2000 igrala vrhunski evropski nogomet, v drugih za SP 2002 nekoliko slabšega ter da zadnje igre z njim pravzaprav nimajo nobene zveze.

In da je za njegovo vrnitev na krmilo veliko prezgodaj.

Reporter Slovenskih novic, ki so mu telefonirali o nenavadni drušèini v Šestici, me je naslednji dan, ko se zadnja Prašnikarjeva afera še ni povsem polegla, zaupno vprašal: Se mar Sreèko vendarle vraèa? Ne, ne, za to ni prav nobene možnosti, sem ga odpravil. Katanec, sem dvoumno dodal, je že leta 2002 na prizorišèu slovenske nogometne vojne za naslednika ustolièil Bojana Prašnikarja in ga tudi zdaj ne ogroža.

Da, to se je èisto res zgodilo. O tem se mi ne tedaj in ne pozneje ni niti sanjalo. Zame je bila to ena najveèjih skrivnosti: kako je predsednik NZS Rudi Zavrl, ki mi je nekoè v družbi reprezentanènega direktorja Petra Žagarja zatrjeval, èeš, »dokler bom jaz predsednik, on paè ne bo selektor«, obrnil plošèo in Prašnikarja vendarle imenoval za selektorja Slovenije.

Rudi Zavrl, ki ga imam tudi za zaupnega prijatelja, mi tega šokantnega zasuka nikoli ni pojasnil, èeprav je lahko vedel, da bi ga mnogi utegnili imeti za dvolièneža. Oèi pa mi je tisto opoldne v Šestici odprl Sreèko Katanec. »Da, jaz sem Prašnikarja tedaj predlagal predsedniku. Zame je bila to èista logika: edini vplivni slovenski trener z mednarodnimi izkušnjami.« Seveda, se Sreèku iskreno zahvalil za informacijo, s katero sem si razjasnil eno najveèjih ugank, sledilo pa je novo Sreèkovo darilo: èe bi tedaj vedel, kar vem danes, potem tega nikoli ne bi storil. Tudi tega še nisem doživel, da bi Sreèko priznal, da se je motil.

Seveda sem ga poskušal napeljati, da bi omenil kar koli v zvezi z namigovanji završkega župana Mirana Vuka, ki so zadnje tedne vznemirjale slovensko športno javnost: da kaj pove o kupovanju igralnih mest ali plaèanem dodatnem izpopolnjevanju igralcev. Toda sreèko ob tem ni niti trenil, gotovo zaradi izkušenj s takšno in podobno prakso, ki jo v bogati karieri doživel na razliènih nogometnih meridianih. Pritisk pa se mu je vidno poveèal, ko je beseda nanesla na reprezentanèno kadrovanje, ki ga prakticira Bojan Prašnikar. Menda z naèrtnim in sistematiènim odstranjevanjem vseh in vsega, kar diši po njegovi pravljici. Zadnja žrtev reprezentanène diferenciacije – potem ko so glavni akterji Džoni Novak, Željko Milinoviè, Milan Osterc, Marinko Galiè, Aleš Èeh že pristali v zgodovini – naj bi bil dobrodušni in vrhunsko usposobljeni goriški zdravnik dr. Vasja Kruh, ki ga bo menda zamenjal eden od mariborskih medicinskih specialistov. Katanèevemu ogorèenju v zvezi s preštevanjem in analiziranjem vrednot reprezentanènih kandidatov sem se zelo èudil, kajti v dolgi profesionalni karieri bi se paè moral nauèiti, da je o uspehih mogoèe sanjati le ob homogenem kolektivu.

Sicer pa: ali ni kot trener tudi sam ovacija na svetovni sceni požel prav s homogenizacijo? Ta je v vrhunstvu tako rekoè imperativ. Na gori moraš vselej imeti svoje ljudi, je nekoè zapisal naš sloviti nekdanji alpinist Kunaver.

Polet, Thursday 22th January 2004


Maybe we could have a topic like this, for posting different articles, interviews etc. that are related with football and you guys come across. I'm sorry if some will be posted in Slovenian language :)
 

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Great idea Nina :happy: ;) I think this should be a very good thread ;) And don't worry about those articles being in Slovene, I am starting to understand more and more of it ;) :)
 

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Interesting yes, still I can't get rid of the feeling that it is just an old seniles chance to add to the fire. He just had to put it out, like a little kid that gets a new toy and than runs out to show it to his friends. :groan:
 

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He informs us! Would you rather have that we wouldn't hear or see nothing? Don't prejudge, just because it was written from someone you don't like :smileani:
 

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Man, there are some things that are better if they stay hidden. I ask you; would you preffer that the Korea stuff stayed in the dressing room and the fairytail continued or that it bursted out like it did and served noone any good?
 

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It happened. Everything would be finshed even if we didn't hear about it IMO. One can forgive, but never forget!
 

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I gather this is about the conflict between Katanec and ZZ at the World Cup. Does it add anything relevant or is it, judging on Walters reaction, just some speculations here and there just to appoint blame or a culprit in some way?
 

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It's not really about that...

The most interesting part is that katanec is probably the man responsible that prasniakar got the nt job, but ofcourse now regrets this...
 

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Man....i just hate that dumber od Franci Božiè.....grrrrr...... :yuck:
 

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Slovenia's Milan Osterc (left) celebrates after his country takes a 1-0 lead against Romania (©EPA)

Slovenia earn Europe's respect

In English, his name means plain "lucky". Yet something must have been lost in the translation when you consider the achievements of Slovenia coach Srecko Katanec.

Rankings rise
Since taking over from Bojan Prasnikar, the former VfB Stuttgart and Sampdoria UC midfielder has led his country to two major championships: EURO 2000™ and the 2002 FIFA World Cup finals. And by December 2001, this Alpine nation of 1.9 million people, better known for skiing than soccer, was 25th in the FIFA/Coca-Cola world rankings.

Professional approach
Katanec began to work his alchemy in 1998, after Slovenia's dismal qualifying campaign for France 98. He brought the professional habits he had learned in Germany and Italy to the national squad, while benefiting from a confidence born of NK Maribor's exploits in European competition. In 1999/00 the Slovenian champions reached the first group stage of the UEFA Champions League.

Ukraine ousted
The first real sign of progress came with qualification for the UEFA European Championship in the Netherlands and Belgium. Wins over Latvia, Georgia and Albania, and a well-earned draw in Greece, secured second place behind Norway in Group Two and entry into the play-offs. Here they met fancied Ukraine. However, the form book went out of the window as Katanec's side edged the first leg in Ljubljana 2-1 then held the favourites 1-1 in the snow in Kiev.

Three-goal lead lost
Thousands gathered to greet the team on their return, yet it was the following June before the country's dream factories went into overtime. Slovenia's first match at EURO 2000™ was against Yugoslavia. Despite the political baggage surrounding the fixture, their approach was stress free as they raced into a 3-0 lead with two goals from Zlatko Zahovic and another from Miran Pavlin. However, the downside of Katanec's positive tactics was that Yugoslavia found a way back into the game - scoring three times in six second-half minutes to earn a draw.

Neutral's choice
That was also the way of things in Slovenia's other Group C matches. The neutral's choice got less than they deserved from a 2-1 defeat by Spain and a 0-0 stalemate with Norway to finish bottom of the section.

'People believe in us'
No matter, back home Katanec and Co were feted as heroes. "We've moved all of Slovenia - my heart is full because people now believe in us," Katanec said. "We no longer have to be afraid of any team in Europe." True to his word, the coach then oversaw a friendly victory over the Czech Republic before the serious work of qualifying for the FIFA 2002 World Cup finals.

Future in question
The journey to the Far East was no rose-strewn futon. Slovenia lost a two-goal lead in their first Group One tie, drawing 2-2 in the Faroe Islands. Then Katanec had a much-publicised row with star man Zahovic, before seeing his own future called into question with reports of a move to Olympiakos Piraeus FC.

Form found
But after opening with one win and four draws, the Slovenes suddenly hit form. They recorded four wins and one draw to beat Yugoslavia to second place in a pool that also included Russia, Switzerland, the Faroes and Luxembourg.

Russia win vital
Most important was the 2-1 home triumph over Russia in September, earned by a late Milenko Acimovic penalty, in what was their third-last match. This moved them above Yugoslavia, a position they maintained with a 1-1 draw in Belgrade in the sides' penultimate fixture. So the subsequent 3-0 defeat of the Faroes in October left Slovenia on course for a play-off with Romania, opponents they had never beaten.

No respect for history
Katanec's men are no respecters of history, however, and Mladen Rudonja's first goal in 53 international appearances clinched a 3-2 aggregate success in Bucharest after a 2-1 win in Ljubljana. Iconoclasts they may be. But what else would you expect of a nation that only achieved independence in 1991?

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An old article I found on UEFA but I thought I may as well post it here ;)
 

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Slovenia should be really happy of the accomplishments in the recent past. They are remarkable for a nation of just 2million. Really, it is a great achievement for most nations, especially when you consider the number of teams that get into the tournaments.

If history is any indication there is going to be more good times ahead for Slovenia.

In football there is always hope. I have always said out of all the sports, football, is the most tactic oriented. An intelligent side can beat a better overall side. Slovenia proved this.

We have to say there was many times in Slovenia's road where there was a better side overall, but Slovenia prevailed. Katenac has to be praised, he did everything perfectly for the country. He picked great tactics, taught the players a responsible game, and it paid off.

While football may be the most tactic oriented, it doesn't mean that its easy. Picking the right tactics is a tough job, it takes a lot of work, and it takes an intelligent man to get it right, Katenac was that man.

I personally have a lot of respect for him and what he did with that team.

He reminds of Sliskovic a lot actually. Both are hard workers, and really take their job seriously, amazing managers, very intelligent, and are able to really take proper steps to gain success.

Having said all of this, there is still talent in Slovenian football.

Slovenia always has a fairly respectable roster, so there is always hope, but I dont know if there is enough overall talent in it to do it without a very intelligent manager.

You are lucky though, that you do have produce talent pretty well, because there are countries that dont produce that good talent at all, and for them it doesn't matter who they have as managers, may be the smartest man in football, its still difficult and they dont qualify.

Good luck to you guys!

I can only hope Bosnia will soon do what Slovenia has done!
 

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He-he......good memories :) ......but im also opimistic 4 the future...... GO SLOVENIA!
 

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Thanks ED, for those encouraging words!:cool:
We may be somewhat pesimistic right now bucause the situation regarding our NT just isn't rosy at all. I think this is a normal thing. We are worried about the near future of our football. But one day the good days will come again, not that we are that down now though. It's just that a lot of things will have to change before we'll have that same faith in our team than we did under Katanec. No doubt there are some very tallented youngsters coming up, plus we allready have players that are trust worthy and should represent the spine of our team for the future.
So no, the future isn't looking that bad.
 

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I know that the good days will come again :) ED, your post was great to read :thumbsup: I dont doubt that Bosnia will be able to accomplish what Slovenia did. You almost qualified this time for the EURO as only the last match kept you out :depress: But you have that to build on and I'm sure you will ;) :D Best of luck to you :happy:
 

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ED, excellent analysis, I really hope Bosnia gets qualified to the next major tournament, you sure have enough talent even though Croatia steals you a player here and there. You were very close to get to Euro2004, but really ran out of luck.
Good luck for the future.
 

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Slovenia should be really happy of the accomplishments in the recent past. They are remarkable for a nation of just 2million. Really, it is a great achievement for most nations, especially when you consider the number of teams that get into the tournaments.

If history is any indication there is going to be more good times ahead for Slovenia.

In football there is always hope. I have always said out of all the sports, football, is the most tactic oriented. An intelligent side can beat a better overall side. Slovenia proved this.

We have to say there was many times in Slovenia's road where there was a better side overall, but Slovenia prevailed. Katenac has to be praised, he did everything perfectly for the country. He picked great tactics, taught the players a responsible game, and it paid off.

While football may be the most tactic oriented, it doesn't mean that its easy. Picking the right tactics is a tough job, it takes a lot of work, and it takes an intelligent man to get it right, Katenac was that man.

I personally have a lot of respect for him and what he did with that team.

He reminds of Sliskovic a lot actually. Both are hard workers, and really take their job seriously, amazing managers, very intelligent, and are able to really take proper steps to gain success.

Having said all of this, there is still talent in Slovenian football.

Slovenia always has a fairly respectable roster, so there is always hope, but I dont know if there is enough overall talent in it to do it without a very intelligent manager.

You are lucky though, that you do have produce talent pretty well, because there are countries that dont produce that good talent at all, and for them it doesn't matter who they have as managers, may be the smartest man in football, its still difficult and they dont qualify.

Good luck to you guys!

I can only hope Bosnia will soon do what Slovenia has done!
Thank you for the nice words, especially since they come from an outsider :)

Good luck to you too :star:
 
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