I have read part of that very long topic on Raul and I just wanted to post my opinion, and it sounds like this - Camacho! You moron! Everyone knows I'm a Madritista and Raulista especially, so I can never sya anything bad about him, but I amdit, one thing he is terrible at is penalties. I mean come on! Remember against Dinamo Kiev and others! Raul has always sucked in taking penalties and I simply don't get it, how that moron Camacho didn't know that. With the current situatuion on the field, that we had, the obvious choice was mr Pep Guardiola. I was so shocked when I saw my idol with the ball and you don't have to guess I precicted a miss. I didn't think he'd overshoot it, but I thought that crap iof a goalie Barthez would get lucky again. And it happened. No one can blame Raul though, or in other words, everyone should forgive him, because he is by far the best thing Spain have had in a while, so it has to be forgotten. But never should he take a penalty again!!!