Kudos, nice potential avatar Fangio!!!! I just hope your Spanish is better than your English (you never now with those Italoargentinians), and you do know what that P.J. means right next Atletico in first position. Is not "pupas jamas", if it's that what you thought.
This thread is so 1980 British, that slips through the hands of nowadays White Madrid's and Catalan Empires...Hello. Fangio.