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It was suggested today by my form tutor, that the outrage that the PM and media have given vent to in the media because of the up and coming mayoral elections here in London. As "red" Ken Livingstone is the favourite, the current government want to portray him as the leader of the "mindless" anarchists that ran amok on Monday!

For me, it is easy to put all anarchists or socialists in this catagory, but the fact remains, the majority of protestors there that day, wanted a peaceful protest, NOT a riot that takes away what they were protesting about!

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What do you guys think of the events that unfolded on May day in London. Thousands of anti-Capitalist protesters took to the streets of London to show their concern at global conglominates. What started off peacefully enough erupted in to extreme violence as the protesters took a violent turn on a McDonalds (I wonder why???, maybe they mixed up their meals) and smashed the place in before deciding to vandalise the covent gardens and a staue of Winston Churchill. It was recieved with outrage here (in Britain) as the PM and numerous condemned it to a disgrace to the people who fought the war so Britain would be free. They responded by saying that they thought the statue glorified war and should not be there.

The big problem I have with this is the fact that they did not take in to consideration what impact this would have. They may not like Winston Churchill (his defiance on no Welfare State didn't win him many fans) but the fact is this is one of the only people that Britain can be happy about. He seemed to join the war for the right reasons and was superb at motivating the country in times of need. To vandilise the monument was rather extreme I thought.
Don't get me wrong, I do not like Churchill but still respect him for what he has done. The argument that the anti-Capitalists put forward (the glorification of war) is a valid one but it is no excuse for upseting so many people.
 

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Then again, protests that don't upset people aren't of much use anyway...

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Kafka is right.You dont protest by singing or saying "excuse me Sir,do you think you could..." NO,unless you make something to turn the attention on you,you simply have failed.That of course doesnt mean vandalism,but it is a way of showing yiou are opposite to something some others decide about your future.

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There are 2 sides to the argument..

1)To get noticed, you do extreme things..
2)If you get involved in extremism, you loose respect from people..

There were big demonstrations against World bank and IMF here in DC a few weeks ago...Quite a few people from my college went...It was a pretty big crowd...IT was an unofficial day off for DC..Police came when the protesters wouldnt let the commitee member go in for the meeting...They told the protesters to move out of the way and let them in..The police got a little phisical..But no agressive behavior from protesters...The news covered it because news cameras wanted to see the riot police get into action...But at the end, the story got covered and the protestors came out with a lot of respect
 

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Yes because protests are somerthing you dont have very often in America.Apart from the Seattle events you usually shut up and eat your pizzas and drink your cokes.

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That is soo anoying the way Ken has been treated. The media backed him originally cos they wanted a split in the party so Labour would get cocked up and then are treating him like **** now cos he is a socialist. I agree with Talya that the ploy is this and the fact that his name was even mentioned was very stupid.

Protests don't have to be violent, may I remind you of Matin Luther King and Gandhi. I see your point though (Malcom X) but the thing is that such events has cemented a stereotype of socialism as loony and un-educated.
 

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People in the US are constantly protesting something, we just don't feel the need to wreck half the city to do it. Whenever these protests turn violent people stop paying attention to the issues and pay full attention to all the stores etc.. being smashed. If violent protests worked then terrorism would be the most effective form of social change. Obviously it is not or the IRa and the Palestinians would have gotten what they want ages ago.
 
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