OT: I'm shocked!!!

Disaster.:dazed:

Yes. It's a huge shock. Totally unexpected.

Thinking that my family, and millions of others in the process, might suffer from being governed by an extremist, racist man is giving me the creeps...

I won't get into politics however. Just to say that there's not the slightest chance on Earth that Le Pen can be elected in the second round. Still, it shows how worried (and irresponsible) the French people are today.

On May 5th, France must and shall bar the door against the National Front.

What a disaster!!

i am ashamed being French...
How people can be so silly to vote for a guy like him....


PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD, it makes me feel so sick....

don´t worry, Jacques Chirac will win the election! but this is really suprising that he (Jean-Marie) came this far...

Steph, why would your familly suffer of Le Pen as president??

Because the majority of my family is based in France.

yes I remember! your mother is french isn´t she? living in the north of France? I think I remember you saying that some time ago?!

That's right! Impressive memory.

Shocking indeed, Flanders ( north of Belgium) was lost a long time ago, now Holland has Pim Fortuyn, and now this Le Pen incident in France......I pray to god that this isn't going to be a general trend in Europe.

At the other hand: take this non voters!!! I am absolutely pro 'the duty to vote'!:stuckup:

ADRIAAN
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It is already a trend... The radical right wing is getting stronger and stronger all over Europe...

:depress:

Sadly Amo is right - and not just in political life either.

However,this is as far as Le Pen will go.All of Europe has taken notice of this result,and France knows this.And will act accordingly,when the next round of voting occurrs.I hope so anyway.

adriaan said:

Shocking indeed, Flanders ( north of Belgium) was lost a long time ago, now Holland has Pim Fortuyn, and now this Le Pen incident in France......I pray to god that this isn't going to be a general trend in Europe.

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...without mentioning the cases of Italy and Denmark, Adriaan. :depress:

I second what Amo said. The radical right-wing, extremist, racist, anti-EU trend is taking over Europe, slowly but surely. When Europe is not doing good, they're doing great. They profit from the disarray of influentiable people with sensitive themes such as insecurity and unemployement on which they pretend to have the answer, the anti-democratic "solution".

adriaan said:

At the other hand: take this non voters!!! I am absolutely pro 'the duty to vote'! :stuckup:

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Yeah, and the number of abstentions in the second round is likely to be the highest ever in French elections history. Voters accustomed to vote Left have the choice between Right (Chirac) and radical-Right (Le Pen) and either they're gonna refrain from voting (not compulsory in France) or they're gonna vote Chirac, unwantonly, to save the democracy.

John Barnes said:

However,this is as far as Le Pen will go.All of Europe has taken notice of this result,and France knows this.And will act accordingly,when the next round of voting occurrs.I hope so anyway.

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Yes. Chirac will win it, no doubt about it.

But credibility wise, he ought to do a great score as his first round result was the weakest ever for a defending-president. According to the last polls, Chirac would have 77% and Le Pen 23%. But the polls were inaccurate in the first round so let's be very wary with the results. And an eventual face-to-face debate (as it is the tradition in France) would have repercussions too. I'm sure that bastard Le Pen would use every wangle to discredit his rival.

Anyway, Chirac's second mandate will not be a resting one.

Hell, I'd vote for Chirac too.

A good solution would be to make voting obligatory. And also INFORM the citizens about the elections. My dad was in Paris for the last 5 days and he hardly realise elections were held.

Ignorance and not care attitude gives freakshows like Le Pen with devoted fans the right to claim power, FIGHT THIS! :fero:

It's really sad ..i have no words ( specially in english ) for said my sadness.......it's really a disaster......

stephañho said:

Yes. Chirac will win it, no doubt about it.

According to the last polls, Chirac would have 77% and Le Pen 23%.

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dont care polls ..now we must vote .......for chirac ......if we want a democracy........



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since 21/04/2002 i shame to be french ...........[]

Democracy has failed once again.

... or how about "democracy ends up killing democracy" ?

San_Siro_1 said:

I know politics are not allowed in this site

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yet you still continue to break xtratime rules.

No offense to anyone here and I can tell that your thread is not going in any offensive direction and is actually being discussed in a good atmosphere but no politics is no politics, regardless of the tone or how sensitive the issue is. So, to avoid having certain people complaining on double standards and descrimination from the management's direction I will close this thread now just like I will any other political thread. After all, we have to fair and treat everyone equally, noone is above the law, huh Payman?

Raanan

How am i breaking rules "again"?:rollani: I have never broken any rules...unless, you people consider "breaking" rules, any criticism... And remember that this is a forum, where people discuss their different views and opinions and unevitably, there will be criticism. And criticism is a big and important part of democracy, never forget that!

This is about the freaking future of our country and i have opened this thread to discuss a very important issue. As you may have noticed, the discussion was very civilised (as the people of this furm are very mature) and there were no need to close this thread. If it had gone out of hand, i would have closed it right away myself. So please no "ingerence" Raanan, that would be really appreciated on top of being a sign of respect towards this forum and the freedom of speech.

So, thank you for your help, but it was really unecessary and uncalled for. Just do your job fairly and everyone will be happy, ok Doggy.

oh oui, explique leur payman, car moi, je n'arrive pas à leur faire comprendre en anglais!

il ne s'agit pas d'un sujet épineux qui risque de heurter la sensibilité d'êtres humains (car pour moi il n'y aucune humanité chez les nazis) donc, je ne vois pas pourquoi nous serions sensurés!

et dans la mesure ou les membres de ce site sont très jeunes, il me semble impératif de leur faire prendre conscience sur quelle dangereuse pente l'europe est en train de glisser doucement mais sûrement!