Kings just signed Rondo too. Good luck to Karl having to deal with the likes of Cousins and now Rondo. That is of course if he (Karl) doesn't get the boot.
When did I do that? It's not an excuse, it's a fact. Australia has an easier path to major tournaments than European teams do. Not sure why anyone would try to argue otherwise.Yea you used the same excuse about Football as well before.
Embarrassed? Give me a break. Serbia should have won that game, but didn't. Australia took their chances and that's sport, fair play to them. It's happened many times before where the better team doesn't win the game, hell I didn't think the U20s 'deserved' to beat Brazil in the final but we took our chances, while Brazil wasted theirs, and with a little luck, we won. This happens all the time in sports.Australia only makes it because it goes through Asia/Oceania blah blah blah. Nevermind that when they do get there they out peform Serbia as well. Nevermind when they were in the same group as Serbia they thoroughly embaressed them on the world stage with a bunch of D-Graders.
:howler: When did I even suggest this? Those aren't the only teams in Europe though, are they? The point is, I don't think Australia would have qualified for the previous WC had they replaced us in our previous group with Belgium, Croatia, Scotland, and Wales. Do you?Never mind that they won the Asian Cup this year against teams like Japan and South Korea aho also regularly out peform Serbia in World Cups. You gonna tell me Australia are scared to come against the mighty Albanians and Armenians? Or the Azerbaijanis and Kazachs?
Are you talking basketball now or football? What are the other teams, provide me with the info before I answer your question. 3 qualifying out of 5 teams is a pretty good deal.Were in a group of 5 for these qualifications. Where three of the teams can get auto qualifying. Is that really so tough? Do you really think Australia couldnt make it through?
Always looking for the easy way out, aren't you?Im not going to respond to the rest of your dribble. Its all been talked about before. The main points here stand.
Right. Why not tell that to all the big named players who have played in it over the years on all teams. Big named players play in the EC too, proving that it is a respectable competition.* The Olympics are more important than the Word Championships. Australia has consistently peformed better than Serbia than them. Just deal with it. No one gives a fukc about the basketball world cup.
Again, your way of thinking is so primitive that it's sad. So, because the Olympics is a bigger event than the WC, that automatically means the WC counts for nothing? What's the matter with you?When you have a 'World Cup' where you have, at best, 4/150 of the best players in the world competing : That isnt a 'World Cup'. The Olympics have the best 12 players in the world (Usually from the US) plus a great number of international teams who always bring their best players. Ask anyone on the planet from Spain, Argentina, Russia....even Serbia....if theyde rather have an Olympic medal or a World Cup medal. Ask a Serb like Teodosic if hed rather win an Olympic gold playing against the best the Americans can offer, or against their D-Graders
That's a bad comparison. The MLS mainly has older players who are on the decline. The Euroleague still has some of the best European players playing in it. It's much like how the NBA has some scrubs playing in it too, that's just how it goes. Not every player on Barcelona is world class, just like not every player on the Cavs team is amazing (Dellavedova). Lebron has proven that he can carry scrubs pretty far, and has done so more times than once. Remember Allen Iverson? He did a bit of the same back in the day too before getting smashed by the Lakers in the finals. You need to look at the big picture but unfortunately, I'm starting to think you can't even see it.* The NBA in terms of quality and popularity os kiles and miles ahead of Euro League. What the MLS is to European Champions League Football is what the Euro League is to the NBA. The best players go there to prove themselves, just like the best internationals footballers go to Europe.
Based on what? You can probably say that about football considering the recent H2H results, but I still think our crappy team could beat Australia, I mean no offense, but Australia aren't exactly WC. In basketball I don't see how you can say that. Naturally, your way is because you qualify for more Olympics, but again, Australia has to beat New Zealand in order to do so while Serbia has a much tougher path.Just face it that Australia is currently better at football and basketball than us.
Again with this crap, why are you so insecure about all this? If I were to argue that Spain is better at basketball and football nation than Australia, would you then ask me why I don't live there [in Spain]?Krle if youre such a big Serb with so much pride why dont you live there?
Nah, your attempts to be humorous aren't fooling anyone. You seem to have some deep insecurities relating to your identity for some reason. It's unfortunate because this complex of yours seems to be getting the better of you...Because im still upset that Serbia allowed Sinisa Mihajlovic, the greatest trainer of all time, to slip through our fingers.
Let's talk Mihajlovic now, right? I mean, this is a basketball thread, I was trying to discuss basketball with you, but then you duck and run (like you've done before) only to talk about other things.Nah trust me its all because of Mihajlovic. I dont understand why he was let go after being ao succesful for the national team. I mean how could we let a mastermind who picked a Zvezda reserve player over Nemanja Matic be let go.
You keep trying to deflect, all the while exposing your complexes in the process. I engage in a discussion with you, you change the subject - try to talk about Miha as though to take jabs at me from the side. If you want to discuss Miha, I'm all ears, but let's be honest, you don't really want to do that, nor do you really want to discuss anything. At least you know that much.Ive continuously fought with my identity since he left. How can I be proud of Serbian football (and therefore being Serb) after what we did to Sinisa. Thanks for helping me figure out the problem Mare. I hope one day I can be as psychologically sound as you are and reach 20 000 posts on a forum
:howler: You don't have time to reply to the 'same' arguments, yet you bring up Mihajlovic? Guys like you always have an excuse. I mean, you have time to open threads about Bleiburg and other things on a football forum...Im not deflecting. I have a life Mare, and it doesn't involve making 20 000 posts on a forum. I dont have time like to reply to the same arguments over and over again like you and a few others here do.
Weren't you the one who originally brought up Dellavedova? I thought it was you who started running your mouth about him being such a great player, playing in the playoffs, making it to the NBA finals, etc. Also, weren't you the one who started with the whole measuring of who's a Serb and how much of a Serb they are? Just discuss basketball, that's what these things have been about, even if most of your statements relating to the topic are ridiculous.Every conversation has gone the same way. Someones brought up Della Vedova or Australian basketball to get me to reply. Ive replied, and then theyve gone on to take pot shots at me. Dule claimed he was a Serb while I wasnt (Never mind that he lives in the diaspora aswell), and Krle did the same thing. All I ever did was compare basketball teams. I never talked about Us vs Them. It was Cetnik wannabees like Dule and Krle who took it as an attack on Serbdom that someone dare claim that Australia is better at football and basketball than Serbia.
You're not done with the conversation though, don't you get it? You're the one who keeps bringing it up. Stick to basketball, who cares about how Serbian someone is or whatever else you are saying. Like I asked you on the previous page - if me, someone living in Canada brought up how Spain was a better football and basketball nation than Australia, would you then ask me why I don't go live in Spain? Much like you've asked Dule and Krle respectively.People are allowed to say im not Serb because I live in the diaspora, but when I call them out for also living in the diaspora they have a cry. Im done with this conversation. It really shows how far in the gutter Serbian football is when people need to continuously bring up Australian Basketball to create traffic in this forum. Im happy that as an Aussie-Serb ive had the chance to support my team (along with Australia) at World Cups, and other International tournaments in both sports.
Canada actually has some talent coming up, and I'm not bothered by it. I support Canada, why wouldn't I? The Toronto Raptors are my team too, is that supposed to be surprising?You mite have that chance Mare or Krle or Dule if your home nations of Canada, the Netherlands or England ever get a strong enough basketball team.
I don't live in Holland. Perhaps you meant Krle?PS. Mare lives in Holland but has so much issues with his identity that he feels likes hes betratying Serbia if he supports Hollands amazing football team :howler::howler:
And did you not comment on this? So, you did mention Dellavedova after the playoffs ended - something that you just denied in your statement above.I brought up a player, Della Vedova, in a basketball sub-forum, while said player was competing in the NBA Finals. Shoot me for bringing up basketball related news. I havn't mentioned him once since its ended. The world talked about him enough, I dont need to keep reminding you who is, If you follow basketball youll know.
Someone brought up the fact more Serbs have been drafted than Aussies after that, and that Della Vedaova still hasnt been signed up by the Cavs, all so they could argue with me.
Right, and I remember saying to you then that you were blowing things out of proportion and jumping to conclusions too quickly. But again, why do you jump so fast, it's all related to this identity crisis you seem to be suffering, because not to sound like a broken record, but as soon as there is some mention of you vs us or whatever, you snap. From then on your discussion with Dule turned personal with you questioning where he was from, how Serbian he was, etc, etc. It was pathetic, and now you're doing it to Krle, and even trying to take shots at me in the hopes of getting a reaction.I never started the measurement of "Serbness". Don't re write history to fit your narrative. I never once mentioned anything about being Serb until Mr Dule (And then Krle) started claiming I wasnt Serb because I supported Australia as well as Serbia. By saying "You vs Us" they were claiming they were Serbs while I was not. I merely pointed out that theyre just as Serb as I am. The fact they cant handle that observation, and both take offense at that statement, shows how insecure they feel about their identity. its not me having a cry about it, im just returning fire.
:howler: Oh man, if I had a nickle for every time a forum member said that to me. The most pathetic excuse there is. You're on a football forum and more specifically a Serbian forum where we discuss other sports including basketball. If you come in to discuss things, then you have time. We aren't posting 50,000 times on the same topic, so cut the bullshit. It's not a matter of you having a life (you've proven otherwise by opening threads about Bleiburg and other things on a football forum) it's a matter of not being able to back up the bullshit that you spew. Maybe if you didn't spend your precious time posting off-topic remarks, and posting pictures but instead sticking to the topic, we could have had a proper discussion already.Like I said im not going to keep going back and forth with people who have the time and patience to write a combined 50 000 posts together; Ive got a life to live.
Are you talking about the Oceania Championships? When else has Australia won a medal at 'top level' in Basketball (or football for that matter)?This life includes watching Australians win medals at both the top level of Basketball and Football. I hope one day Krle and Dule have the opportunity to do the same.
Reports that the deal is for 1yr at 2m.Twitter currently buzzing that Bobi Marjanovic is about to sign for the Spurs!! All but confirmed.
Apparently Zvezda might get a fee as well through some sort of deal in place.