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GROUP STAGE


GROUP A

Indonesia.......4 - 3 - 1 - 0 - 17 - 0 - 10 *Qualified
Singapore.......4 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 10 - 3 - 8 *Qualified
Vietnam.........4 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 13 - 5 - 7
Laos..............4 - 1 - 0 - 3 - 4 - 16 - 3
Cambodia.......4 - 0 - 0 - 4 - 2 - 22 - 0

07/12/2004

Laos 0 — 6 FT Indonesia
Thong Nhat Stadium, Ho Chi Minh City
(Boas Salossa 26, 53, Ilham Jaya Kesuma 29, 34, Elie Aiboy 60, Kurniawan Dwi Yulianto 87)

Singapore 1 — 1 FT Vietnam
Thong Nhat Stadium, Ho Chi Minh City
(Indra Sahdan Daud 70, Thach Bao Khan 51)

09/12/2004
Cambodia 1 — 9 FT Vietnam
Thong Nhat Stadium, Ho Chi Minh City
(Hang Sokunthea 44, Thach Bao Khanh 8, 23, Le Cong Vinh 58, 87, 89, Sun Sampratna 63-og, Dang Van Thanh 71, 83, Nguyen Huy Hoang 77)

Indonesia 0 — 0 FT Singapore
Thong Nhat Stadium, Ho Chi Minh City

11/12/2004

Laos 2 — 1 FT Cambodia
My Dinh National Stadium, Hanoi
(Chalana Luang-Amath 63, 73 , Hing Darith 27)

Vietnam 0 — 3 FT Indonesia
My Dinh National Stadium, Hanoi
(Muhammad Mauli Lessy 18, Boas Salossa 21, Ilham Jaya Kesuma 45)

13/12/2004
Singapore 6 — 2 FT Laos
My Dinh National Stadium, Hanoi
(Hasrin Jailani 7, Indra Sahdan Daud 19, 74, Sengphet Thongphachan 41-og, Agu Casmir 45, 92+2-pen Visay Phaphouvanin 22, Chalana Luang-Amath 72-pen)

Indonesia 8 — 0 FT Cambodia
My Dinh National Stadium, Hanoi
(Ilham Jaya Kesuma 5, 48, 56, Elie Aiboy 30, 55, Kurniawan Dwi Yulianto 74, 76, Ortizan Slaossa 90)

15/12/2004
Vietnam 3 — 0 FT Laos
My Dinh National Stadium, Hanoi

Cambodia 0 — 3 FT Singapore
Lach Tray Stadium, Haiphong

GROUP B

Myanmar.......4 - 3 - 1 - 0 - 6 - 2 - 10 *Qualified
Malaysia........4 - 3 - 0 - 1 - 11 - 3 - 9 *Qualified
Thailand........4 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 12 - 4 - 7
Philippines......4 - 1 - 0 - 3 - 4 - 9 - 3
Timor Leste....4 - 0 - 0 - 4 - 2 - 17 - 0

08/12/2004
Philippines 0 — 1 FT Myanmar
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(San Day Thien 90+2)

Timor Leste 0 — 5 FT Malaysia
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(Liew Kit Kong 27, Amri Yahyah 47, 83, Fadzli Saari 67, Shukor Adan 85)

10/12/2004
Thailand 1 — 1 FT Myanmar
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(Therdsak Chaiman 14 Zaw Lynn Tun (2) 89)

Malaysia 4 — 1 FT Philippines
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(Liew Kit Kong 17, Khalid Jamlus 67, 77, Khaironisam Hussain 74 Chad Gould 90+3)

12/12/2004
Timor Leste 0 — 8 FT Thailand
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(Banluesak Yodyingyong 17, Suriya Domtaisong 41, Weerayut Jitkuntod 53, Therdsak Chaiman 59, Sarayoot Chaikamdee 63, 65, 67, Yuttajak Konjan 84)

Myanmar 1 — 0 FT Malaysia
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(Soe Myat Min 20)

14/12/2004
Philippines 2 — 1 FT Timor Leste
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(Emelio Caligdong 89, 90+2 Anai (Januario Do Rego) 58 )

Malaysia 2 — 1 FT Thailand
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
(Khalid Jamlus 63, 65 Sarayoot Chaikamdee 45)

16/12/2004
Myanmar 3 — 1 FT Timor Leste
Bukit Jalil Stadium, Kuala Lumpur

Thailand 3 — 1 FT Philippines
Cheras Stadium, Kuala Lumpur


SEMI FINAL

First Leg

Indonesia 1 v 2 Malaysia
Stadium Utama Senayan, Jakarta
(Kurniawan Dwi Yulianto 7, Liew Kit Kong 28, 47)
Tue, 28 Dec 2004


Myanmar 3 v 4 Singapore
(Soe Myat Min 34, 90+1, Min Thu 36 Daniel Bennett 21, Agu Casmir 39, Noh Alam Shah 65, Shahril Ishak 80)
Cheras Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
Wed, 29 Dec 2004

Second Leg

Malaysia 1 v 4 Indonesia
Bukit Jalil National Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
Mon, 03 Jan 2005
(Khalid Jamlus 28, Kurniawan Dwi Yulianto 59, Charis Yulianto 75, Ilham Jaya Kesuma 78, Boas Salossa 85)
(Indonesia advanced to final on 5-3 goals aggregates))

Myanmar 2 v 4 Singapore
(Zaw Lynn Tun 74-og, Noh Alam Shah 94, 96, Agu Casmir 108 , Soe Myat Min 15, Aung Kyaw Moe 50)
Cheras Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
Sun, 02 Jan 2005

(Singapore advanced to final on 8-3 goals aggregates))


THIRD PLACE

Malaysia 2 - 1 Myanmar
Khalid Jamlus 15, Mohd Nor Ismail 56 Soe Myat Min 52
Jalan Besar Stadium, Singapore
15/1/05


FINAL

First Leg
Indonesia 1 - 3 Singapore
(Mahyadi Panggabean 90+3, Daniel Bennett 5, Khairul Amri 39, Agu Casmir 69)
Stadium Utama Senayan, Jakarta
8/1/05

Second Leg
Singapore 2 - 1 Indonesia
(Indra Shahdan 5, Agu Casmir 40-pen Elie Aiboy 76)
National Stadium, Singapore
16/1/05

(Singapore win 5-2 on aggregate)


Tiger Cup 2004 Top Scorer

Code:
[b]7- Ilham Jaya Kesuma (IDN)[/b]

6- Agu Casmir (SIN) 
6- Soe Myat Min (MYA)
6- Khalid Jamlus (MAS)

5- Kurniawan Dwi Yulianto (IDN)

4- Liew Kit Kong (MAS) 
4- Sarayoot Chaikamdee (THA)
4- Boas Salossa (IDN)
4- Elie Aiboy (IDN)
4- Le Cong Vinh (VIE) 
4- Thach Bao Khanh (VIE) 
4- Noh Alam Shah (SIN)
4- Indra Sahdan (SIN) 

3- Chalana Luang-amath (LAO) 
3- Emelio Caligdong (PHI) 

2- Amri Yahyah (MAS) 
2- Dang Van Thanh (VIE)
2- San Day Thien (MYA) 
2- Therdsak Chaiman (THA) 
2- Suriya Domthaisong (THA) 
2- Therdsak Chaiman (THA)
2- Daniel Bennett (SIN) 

1- Anai (Januario Do Rego) (TLS)
1- Atthipol Poolsap (THA)
1- Aung Kyaw Moe (MYA) 
1- Baihakki Bin Khaizan (SIN)
1- Banluesak Yodyingyong (THA) 
1- Chad Gould (PHI)
1- Fadzli Saari (MAS) 
1- Hang Sokunthea (CAM) 
1- Hasrin Jailani (SIN) 
1- Hing Darith (CAM)
1- Itimi Dickson (SIN)
1- Khaironisam Shabuddin (MAS)
1- Khairul Amri (SIN)
1- Min Thu (MYA)
1- Mohammad Mauly Lessy (IDN)
1- Charis Yulianto 
1- Myo Hlaing Win (MYA)
1- Nguyen Huy Hoang (VIE) 
1- Nguyen Minh Phuong (VIE)
1- Ortisan Salossa (IDN) 
1- Sarif Sainui (THA) 
1- Sengphet Thongphachan (SIN) 
1- Shahril Ishak (SIN) 
1- Shukor Adan (MAS) 
1- Simon (Simon Diamantino) (TLS) 
1- Sun Sampratna (VIE)
1- Visay Phaphouvanin (LAO)
1- Weerayut Jitkuntod (THA)
1- Yuttajak Konjan (THA)
1- Zaw Lynn Tun (MYA)
 

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Yeah, there're so many surprising news in this year Tiger Cup so far. Singapore held Vietnam draw and the host is also being beaten 0-3 by Indonesia. And also Thailand has the same fate too with Myanmar and Malaysia. I couldn't believe my eyes that Malaysia beat Thailand, they were very bad during World Cup Qualifier.

But I think Thailand is being unlucky to have Ivan Kolev as their coach, he is not a good coach compare to Peter Withe. I think a good team like Thailand deserves a better coach than him.

Anyway, I am happy my NT playing so great this time. The Vietnam match is our best match so far. :D
 

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Unlucky! As a group winner, we should play away first, and why the hell we play on Jakarta at 28 Dec? It gives our opponent more advantage if the second leg play with extra time.

Btw, we miss Ilham and Boas "Ronaldo7" at the first leg.
 

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Zhuge Liang said:
Yeah, there're so many surprising news in this year Tiger Cup so far. Singapore held Vietnam draw and the host is also being beaten 0-3 by Indonesia. And also Thailand has the same fate too with Myanmar and Malaysia. I couldn't believe my eyes that Malaysia beat Thailand, they were very bad during World Cup Qualifier.

But I think Thailand is being unlucky to have Ivan Kolev as their coach, he is not a good coach compare to Peter Withe. I think a good team like Thailand deserves a better coach than him.

Anyway, I am happy my NT playing so great this time. The Vietnam match is our best match so far. :D
Malaysia could have always beaten Thailand, its just that we don't play with our heads. The only reason we beat them this time is because the Thais are playing with a young team who are relatively inexperienced compared to Malaysia.

I don't think we'll be able to make it past Indonesia in the semis. From the way we are playing, we'll take a beating. The Indons are too fast for us.

I don't know which team are playing the best footie so far in the tourney, because the only matches that the TV stations here show live are the matches that Malaysia are playing in. There's not even a highlights show. Pretty much reflects to extent of hopelessness malaysian football is in right now. Even the biggest footie sponsor in Malaysia right now, Celcom, is sponsoring the tv coverage of EPL instead of becoming the official sponsor for the local Premier League.

Anyways, good luck too all who qualified for the semis.
 

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why does Taufik Hidayat not play for indonesia? :confused:
 

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Because he is a badminton player... :howler:
he is?
i thought he's very capable in soccer :D
 

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yo karrmadamaii, at least u know what's killing u so u should happy for that.
coz i dont know what's killing me :D
 

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yo rascar...

As much as I am realistic abt M'sia's chances against Indonesia, I still support them.

I find it beautiful that no matter howmuch you hate and despise the fact the team you support is playing badly, up to the point you'd want switch channels or switch off the tv, you will still sit through the whole match and hope that they would score.
 

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How was the turnout at the previous matches, karrmadamaii? I read in the pprs today that some 500 Singapore fans will cross the causeway to watch the country play the semis :) And sorry ya, but Forza Indonesia!! :D :howler:
 

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not sure...but from the live matches I saw on TV, it was very disappointing. I didn't go to watch the games as I was sick thruout the whole thing. Anyways, the attendances are as below, have a look for yourselves:

vs Timor Leste: 500-1000
vs Myanmar: 1500 vs around 3000 Myanmar supporters
vs Thailand: A few thousand vs around 1500 Thai supporters

Crap. The tickets were selling for only RM10, the matches are on a saturday night and still only a few thousand turned up. You know where the rest went to? Restaurants, cafes and stalls to catch EPL.

sheesh.

oh, and OLE MALAYSIA!!!!!!
 

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I'm not sure if we have live telecasts :embarass: but I'm sure we'll get it if we make it to the finals. We're meeting Myanmar in the semis who, from the reports that I read, have improved greatly. Keeping our fingers crossed cos we'll be without our top scorer, Indra.....

GO, SINGAPORE, GO!!!
 

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It'll be a square game Safe, my gut feeling says that you Lions will nick it. Myanmar's just too young, and as with SE Asian team around the Vietnam-Cmabodia-Thailand region, they tackle badly. Seriously.

Just get your wingers wide, use your forwards to pull the CBs away, and let you wingers rip past them and wait for that late tackle. Repeat it a few times and you'll get a penalty or maybe an extra man on the pitch. And pass the ball a lot, and don't waste possesion on quick attacks. Go offensive with numbers, Myanmar lack the tactical awareness to deal with sustained pressure from possesive footie.

Trust me, I'm at least 70% right abt this. We lost to them because we didn't do exactly this.

The only thing that still pisses me off is that I lost my hp the day that the Malaysia FA to said they were going to decide who to be the next national coach :pp :D :dielaugh:
 
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