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Hello guys, most of you probably dont know that im an arab (15 year old bloke living in Australia though :cool: )

I thought we should have a thread for Arab Music somewhere on the forum

What you guys listening to?
What are you favourite songs?

Me personally, ive been a long time Ragheb Allamah fan, and now with Nancy coming up, im kind of enjoying her music as well
 

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Hi Christian, you can join us in he Eid Mubarak thread, we are discussing all sort of subjects there, from Music to toe fetshing :D
 

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Yeah, you can read Pooh's comments on the state of Arab music at the moment! I like Ragheb Alama as well!
 

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well let's shift the discussion here then :)

yesterday on Future TV (also available to satellite viewers) there was Zaven's talkshow about Lebanese musical fan clubs. All these teenagers have their own official fan clubs for 'fannaans' (artists) such as Fairouz, Rhaghib Alemeh, Najwa Karam, George Wassouf, Nawal el Zoghbi, Assi el Hallani....even the Mexican 'Thalia' famed for her soap opera Maria Mercedes. :rolleyes:

The older generation comments (40 yr olds +) would say "Look at these youth, instead of worrying about their country's future they spend their time admiring artists"

It was rather ridiculous, I mean one kid was dressed up Nawal el Zoghbi patches all over his t-shirt, jeans, and jacket. Pathetic!

Anyways, as to what I listen to, I'm just the casual Arabic music listener, whatever sounds good on the radio.

I met Elissa once, hugged her and gave her a kiss and told her that she was pretty. No the alarm clock didn't right a moment after. It was at a new years party in Beirut 3 years ago. :D
 

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hey all am new here too
my fave voice would be Najwa Karam, Nawal, n elissa :horny: man she rocks especially the new clip
those who i like are Hayfa, Nancy and marwan khoory ,, although hayfa is a crappy singer she does make it up in looks :embarass:
cheers
 

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Rhizoid, I like the way you told her she was pretty! What was her reaction? Was it a "yep and I don't I know it" or was it more modest?
 

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Rhizoid, I like the way you told her she was pretty! What was her reaction? Was it a "yep and I don't I know it" or was it more modest?

She Probably shaked her fake boobies so that he will never change his mind on her.
 

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Hehehe hypnotised by silicon! :)
 

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So whats the latest music making the hits in the arab world?

Im still stuck into my Ragheb Alamah 'Naseeny El-Donia', a few of his oldies, along with a few from Nancy, Amr Diab and Mostafa Amr.
 

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There is the new Kazim El-Sahir album "ila telmitha" "To a student".
No offense, but I do not know how people bear listening to Amr Diab more than once a year!
 

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No offense, but I do not know how people bear listening to Amr Diab more than once a year!
Exactly!
I don't like him at all, he's frustrating & annoying, he's 45+ years old but yet acts and tries to look like a young guy in his 20s, his songs are nothing special at all yet people are crazy about him saying he's the best & all that, for example when he comes to Dubai to perform a concert the venue is always over-crowded with people, I do not have a clue why he is so popular, 3ala shu as Julia says (Julia's a great singer imo! :angel: )

I also hate Ruby & all those young people who appear everyday, last time I checked there was this girl who looked like barely looking over 18 with a song called b3atly e-mail (send me an e-mail) :wth, and many other crap so-called 'artists', but the worst of 2004 must be Ala'a Sa'ed, the singer of Al Burtuqala (the orange) :googly:

What do you think Pooh is the reason for the decline in Arabic Music and the appearance of all those 'crappy' performers? I believe it is due to to channels coming up like Melody, Mazika, Music Plus etc. etc., although some channels are somewhat decent (so far) like the Rotana channels, which rarely show thse below-par types of Arabic music.
 

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Money is the reaspn behind all this new sh!t! These channels depends on commercials plus the SMS&MMS some stupid people send to each other every night on these channels. Therefore, they need new faces, new girls, new songs that totally depends on the clip show and the body of the female singer/models/semi naked dancers.

Those people are not artists, they are clowns who would do anything for some fast money, actually the money they are getting is not even worth it! Trust me, some sums are not even worth going to the studio and record the so-called song.

Amr Diab is a shmuck, he is a theif, a copycat to Ricky Martin and other singers. Do you know that Pepsi commercial with Britney spears and the other two girls where he acts as a greeck king or something? Well, that guy is Ricky Martin and only for the purpose of introducing this commercial to the Arabic viewers they have replaced Ricky Martin with Amr Diab, well computers can do wonders in placing this shmuck instead of Ricky Martin!

You know, not only Amr Diab, I once listened to a whole tape of Greeck/Turkish songs and 99% of the songs we listen to nowdays are copied from these Turkish/Greeck songs!

Arabic music thanks to the alikes of this shmuck is stooping to the lowest level ever! You can make a survey consists of 100 persons, ask them if they know the name of the who sings this song, the answers might be all I DO NOT KNOW!

Disgusting and humiliating at its best. However, Arabic music and cinema are the mirror of the Arabic present situation on all aspects.
 

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this is a really interesting subject and would like to share what i think are the reasons for this decline
as Pooh said, nowadays lyrics are written for the tune (greek or turkish) and not the other way round. and even if not some of the lyrics are absolutely appauling, and sheer stupidity, we are not dumb and not everything that rhymes must be sung
i also completely blame Jad Shwayri n Ghassan Rahabani :greed: (modern era p!mps), who are forcing through loads of crappy performers (not singers) like the 4 hyeenas, and that email girl
and of course i blame the dimbwits who keep sending each other sms's at the music channels, coz as long as they send the show will go on.
now please bear with me here, why dont western countries have a problem with the likes of Hayfa, Ruby & co?
although they do have their share of pretty faces with no talent (pamela, Brande roderick n jenny mccartney to name a few) why??????
because these girls will always have playboy and other mags to appear in,
so why not have one for arabs :eekani: ?
this way we can please everybody, whoever wants to see these pretty girls will have to subscribe or buy the mag, and who doesnt, and is offended by the way they are dressing :nono: in free-to-air channels (like many people i know), wouldnt have to see them anymore

ps: i also blame Sha3ban 3bdel Reheem the crappiest of the crap bar none
 

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Im Living in Australia so I would'nt really know whats going on there, but as far as I know (im a 15 year old), the music has gone backwards, I can even tell by Ragheb's songs, they quality, I hate to say this...but its going backwards.

I was watching a concert for Hayfa Wehbe (khaleeni 3eesh hayaty) or something, ive got to say that has got to be the worst performance by a professional singer I have ever seen in my life. OK..OK she's good looking, but who the hell listens to songs like that? That was an absolute shocker, a real disgrace really.

I think I have to agree, from the songs I used to hear as a young boy, if you compare today's songs, then, WOW, the quality is in real decline.
 

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d_kurdi, believe me, we have the same problems in British music. It seems that most groups coming out are manufactured groups who are put together because they look good. However this is beginning to have an effect on how many singles are bought (ok and also downloading of the internet), but a lot of people are beginning to turn away from these crap groups with their awful records and support those bands who have talent coming up, or to just buy old music. I can't remember the last time I bought a current album, instead I buy Jimi Hendrix, Otis Reading, Billie Holiday etc

Just hope this happens in the Arab industry - from the looks of you guys, you are all buying the old classic singers and not the new manufactured groups.

As for the sms messaging channels, they'll always been there as long as there are enough stupid teenagers to send in texts. We have them here too and the texts are mind numbingly dumb!
 

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We do not have any famouse kick arse bands here in the Arab world, I can not remember any actually old/new! Arabic singing is merely solo.

Well Nat, there is something very decent singers out there nowdays, Kazim, Asi, Wael, to name a few but the majority are turning into clowns/whores. To me, I only bought three albums in the recent three years, Diana Karazon, Melhem Zien and the last album of Kazim El-Sahir, other than than I could not even bother.

Today my mom was changing the channels(Ofcourse she dose, she is a woman :D) However, we passed on strike channel and there was Haifa Wahbi, my mom is an old woman with that kind of mentality she got I had to clean up the TV after the uncountable load of spitting she fired to it :D
 

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Pooh, I see you learned a few new cool words over the past year, eh.. shmuck? .. hmmmm. :rolleyes:

To say Amr Diab is crap is ridiculous. I am not one of his fans, far from it, in fact I don't like most modern Arab singers. But to claim that he is crap is strange. If he is crap, he wouldnt be Rotana's most valued singer. He may be crap on one condition, that he is the best of the crap out there (which most likely is the truth). Of all modern Arab singers, he is one of the very few who can come up with something new everytime. It may be an imitiation like you claim (the example you gave is silly, PEPSI chooses who does what, not Amr Diab. If they want him to look like Ricky Martin its their problem), but at least he's good at imitating someone. Others try to imitate and they still suck at even that. For example, Ragheb Alama hasnt changed his style since "ana kol mashta2 eleiha".. Nawal El Zoghby is still stuck in 1995.. the remaining ones make one good CD and 10 other silly ones.. and the likes of Nancy Ajram, Haifa, and Rouby aren't even worth a mention.. On the other hands, Amr Diab's CDs have always sold very well everywhere in the ME.

Worst comes to worse, Amr Diab's video clips are not as explicit as Jad Choueri's, Maria's, Nancy's, Haifa's, Roubi's, etc.. So maybe you ought to attack them first. Imitating Ricky Martin is the least of our worries right now compared to a Maria video clip for example.

This is a typical Arab discussion.. Everyone is feeling a little self-righteous and blaming everyone else, yet no one is doing anything. I am confident that 90% of you guys DO enjoy listening to Amr Diab's music.

The fault isnt Melody's or Mazika's or Rotana's, you know why? Because you've all got them on dish back home, or your relatives have got them, or you've got them at the cafe you visit all day. The media caters to the population. If the population wasnt retarded with nothing more useful to do than to smoke shisha, listen to music, and send highschool style sms's, those channels would have been long out of business.

If you're unhappy with the state of Arabic music, do something about it. Don't tune in to any music channel, ask your relatives to cancel their subscriptions, don't buy their CDs.

I sold my TV and cancelled my ART subscription because its a major waste of time. Can you do the same? Or can all you do is call Amr Diab a shmuck while his "Allem Alby" is playing in the background?
 

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Just hope this happens in the Arab industry - from the looks of you guys, you are all buying the old classic singers and not the new manufactured groups.
Believe me, almost every middle-aged Arab says the same thing.. "Modern music sucks, blah blah blah, I don't like this crap, blah blah blah".. But, their WinAmps are loaded with Amr Diab, Ragheb, Nancy, etc and they've got CD stacks of modern Arabic music.

If this wasnt the truth, those modern singers wouldnt be still in business. :rollani:
 

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Pooh, I see you learned a few new cool words over the past year, eh.. shmuck? .. hmmmm.

I know this word before that actually. :tongue:

To say Amr Diab is crap is ridiculous. I am not one of his fans, far from it, in fact I don't like most modern Arab singers. But to claim that he is crap is strange. If he is crap, he wouldnt be Rotana's most valued singer. He may be crap on one condition, that he is the best of the crap out there (which most likely is the truth). Of all modern Arab singers, he is one of the very few who can come up with something new everytime. It may be an imitiation like you claim (the example you gave is silly, PEPSI chooses who does what, not Amr Diab. If they want him to look like Ricky Martin its their problem), but at least he's good at imitating someone. Others try to imitate and they still suck at even that. For example, Ragheb Alama hasnt changed his style since "ana kol mashta2 eleiha".. Nawal El Zoghby is still stuck in 1995.. the remaining ones make one good CD and 10 other silly ones.. and the likes of Nancy Ajram, Haifa, and Rouby aren't even worth a mention.. On the other hands, Amr Diab's CDs have always sold very well everywhere in the ME.

Being Rotana's most valued singer dose not prove your point. Nancy Ajram, Haifa Wahbi and Ruby are most valued singers to other channels, dose that make them good? Absolutely NO! I agree with you though that he comes with new things, new styles of imitating which is good compared to other crap imitaters out there. However, I did not say that I am fan of Nawal nither Ragheb even though the latter has some nice songs in the 80's.

Your claim about Amr Diab's CD's being sold very well the ME is just an assumption. Here in Jordan singers like Kazim, George, Mohammed Abdo, Wael Kaffouri are much more populare than Amr Diab because they are the ones that can come up with new things and not imitating western singers even in their hair cuts like Amr Diab did once and imitated Eminem's hair cut, god, he was like HELLO, LOOK AT MY NEW HEAD, I HAVE STOLEN IT! He is an imitater and even when he tries something new he just fails to do.

Worst comes to worse, Amr Diab's video clips are not as explicit as Jad Choueri's, Maria's, Nancy's, Haifa's, Roubi's, etc.. So maybe you ought to attack them first. Imitating Ricky Martin is the least of our worries right now compared to a Maria video clip for example.

Ditto and I will give him that. He is clean and class when it comes to vedio clips, still this was not the issue with Amr Diab, I was talking about the quality of his singing and music.

This is a typical Arab discussion.. Everyone is feeling a little self-righteous and blaming everyone else, yet no one is doing anything. I am confident that 90% of you guys DO enjoy listening to Amr Diab's music.

I am not an Arab, so whats your point? Other Arabs here have the right to bash who deserves the bashing for the level the Arabic music has stooped to and you can not take this right away from them as long as they are reasoning their discussions. Actually it is a discussion of how we can get rid of those new imitaters and clowns and not who is good or bad because they are all crap.

The fault isnt Melody's or Mazika's or Rotana's, you know why? Because you've all got them on dish back home, or your relatives have got them, or you've got them at the cafe you visit all day. The media caters to the population. If the population wasnt retarded with nothing more useful to do than to smoke shisha, listen to music, and send highschool style sms's, those channels would have been long out of business.

You have got porno channels too, so what?! As long as I do not watch these channels I am on the safe side. I agree that some young dudes must get a life but they think they are having fun sending these SMS's and MMS's after a long working day, I doubt those kind of people are working thoug.

If you're unhappy with the state of Arabic music, do something about it. Don't tune in to any music channel, ask your relatives to cancel their subscriptions, don't buy their CDs.

Well I do not buy their CD,s. As I have stated in one of my recent posts that I only bought albums for three singers in the recent three years, Diana Karazon, Melhem Zien and Kazim El-sahir, I have downloaded songs for Elias Karam, Wael Kaffori and Wael Jassar too. You can measure a high percentage of young gusy here who actually have the same taste as mine and they only love the new female singers as sexy bodies no more no less.

I sold my TV and cancelled my ART subscription because its a major waste of time. Can you do the same? Or can all you do is call Amr Diab a shmuck while his "Allem Alby" is playing in the background?

I can not sell the TV because its not mine.

I have no clue where you come up with all these silly assumptions Sabry! I change the channel if there is any shmucks like Amr Diab on it so how would I find any of his songs playing since nobody in my house, nighbours or even in the next street play them?!

I hope you are not imagining other ME countries same as Egypt. Actually I know loads of Egyptians who do not like him, not the way I do but still they are not fans of his music if its right to say "HIS" music, the reason Egyptians feel sympathy for him is simply because he is EGYPTIAN :D :pp
 
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