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Should we feel satisfied with it, or simply amused...? :)


1 Spain 1643 0 78
2 Italy 1365 0 26
3 Germany 1336 0 7
4 Brazil 1280 2 28
5 Netherlands 1258 -1 -37
6 Croatia 1223 -1 -43
7 Argentina 1200 0 -30
8 Czech Republic 1111 0 -23
9 Russia 1076 3 63
10 Portugal 1075 -1 -45
11 France 1035 0 16
12 Cameroon 1027 2 28
13 Turkey 1023 -3 -10
14 England 982 1 -9
15 Bulgaria 968 1 -8
16 Israel 957 3 83
17 Greece 945 1 24
18 Romania 927 -5 -80
19 Ukraine 892 7 93
20 Uruguay 887 2 70
21 Egypt 864 0 23
22 Paraguay 863 3 62
23 USA 861 5 73
24 Ghana 844 -4 -20
25 Mexico 841 -1 34
26 Scotland 820 -10 -156
27 Nigeria 818 0 27
28 Sweden 791 3 18
29 Côte d'Ivoire 776 -6 -38
30 Denmark 764 6 68

We're ahead of teams like Scotland, Denmark and Uruguay and only two places behind England. Even Greece who is the top team in our group is beneath us. I guess FIFA really likes us after all.
 

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Well, its interesting indeed.

But think about it. Over the past 4-5 years, Israel has played some very good football. Take their record and compare it with other european teams over the past 5 years and im sure it will be one of the better ones.

With the upcoming qualifiers im sure Israel can jump to top 15.
 

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well we are, and our points are based on the same system that is used for every other team in Europe. So I guess our results have been better than Swedens. Results dont lie i guess
 

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u guys shouldnt even be playing in europe as u are as much an asian nation as lebanon is who is closer to europe then u are. and a ranking system based on friendlies too..
 

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u guys shouldnt even be playing in europe as u are as much an asian nation as lebanon is who is closer to europe then u are. and a ranking system based on friendlies too..

And then lets talk about Turkey, Kazhakstan, Armenia, Azerbijian and the rest of the clowns on why they are not being played in Asia and not in Europe.

We got kicked out of AFC - something we created by Zealous & Ignorant FA who brough corrupted football with corrupted politics...
Fine, kick us out :)
But luckily our football got more competitive... :hopeful:
 

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Wow! Were better than Greece. Who would have thought?
I personally dont feel Czech Republic did anything good to be in their position..
Croatia is dwindling and so are a few others..

but hey - Greece should take a hard look at us come March/April :crazy:
 

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And then lets talk about Turkey, Kazhakstan, Armenia, Azerbijian and the rest of the clowns on why they are not being played in Asia and not in Europe.

We got kicked out of AFC - something we created by Zealous & Ignorant FA who brough corrupted football with corrupted politics...
Fine, kick us out :)
But luckily our football got more competitive... :hopeful:

yeah if it was up to me i would but im not in charge
 

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The FIFA ranking is not to be taken seriously as long as friendlies are counting. They should do it like in tennis, where only games in an official tournament or qualifiers count. Friendlies should not count, it is easy to climb in the ranking if you quickly organise some friendlies against for example Malta, Guam and India...

But... Israel deserves its place, because it is not like the team climbed that high because of some weak opposition in friendly games or luck with the draws in the qualifiers. In recent years there were opponents like Ireland, Switzerland, Croatia, England, Russia, ... and still Israel managed to hardly lose any points at home, and to grab some unexpected points away from home. So in case of Israel, the ranking is well deserved. But it means not that much, it is just encouraging though and may give the moral a boost with the next games in front of us.
 

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1) what is occupating? A bit of proper English would be nice.

2) weither Israel is occuPYING the West Bank and Gaza or if it isnt an occupation, is something I am sure we all have an opinion about, but we also know this forum is not really politics friendly and that we better discuss such issues in a different place.

3) I do not see what the Israel football team has to do with politics anyway. Is any of the players shooting messiles on Gaza? Is any of the players serving israeli troops in the West Bank??
Politics are politics, sports are sports. The Israel football team has NOTHING to do with the political situation in Palestine or Israel, so I think for that reason alone your post is not really needed in this topic. Other than that, I am sure we can discuss this topic in a forum which is allowing politics, however from your comments and the style you are using, I doubt if we would be having any mature or serious conversation.



EDIT: Just saw your signature is now an anti-Israel statement as well. This basically means any mature conversation about the subject is pointless because you are not even willing to talk in a mature way, rather opting for some slogans.
The israel-Palestine conflict is a complex one and there are always two sides of the story. You seem to not want to hear both sides of the story and prefer to use some random slogans instead of having a mature conversation. In that case I think it is pointless to pay attention to your posts anyway.



And one more attempt to educate the ignorant: UEFA does not have a rule that a country must be geographically European to be a UEFA member. Otherwise Cyprus would not be in UEFA, while Azerbaijan and Armenia are borderline cases. FIFA rules say you can apply to any confederation and when they accept you, you are a member. Australia, Guam, Surinam, Guyana also do not play in their own continent's confederation by the way. But you seem to have no issues with any of those, only with the "evil Israel" which by the way was FORCED to leave Asian football because some other countries refused to play games against Israel. Read up before you make silly statements.
 

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yea the european nations should also refuse to play against "israel" but they are too cowardly to do so unfortunatly.
 

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Linderoth, in case you did not read the rules of this site let make them clear for you: Political debates are not allowed, in fact we used to have a political forum on this site and it completely ruined the good atmosphere of the place as you can see politics do not belong in here. So I will be asking you to do 2 things: Please erase your political statement and remove your signature. Of course I do have the ability to delete your posts lock this thread etc but I don't believe in this as a solution, I'm not here to ruin people's experience and I am not going to report you to the admins, I'm giving you the benefit of doubt so you can solve the problem before the admins do and then it might become a ban or another punishment I don't know. So for your own sake I recommend you to get rid of that siggy, and any other political post in the future on the entire xtratime space. :)

(See, Israeli people aren't that bad after all :D)
 

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linderoth thanks for the kind words...fact is, Israel plays in europe and your going to have to accept since your not in charge. i am new here and i signedup because this is a footy forum not a politics one. Aside from this, israel is 16th! don't know if FIFA is just having a laugh but who cares, its another plus to this very negative year where no israeli club preformed too well in UEFA competitions
 

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F*cking hell. We can sit here and argue that Israel doesnt "deserve" 16th all we want. OR, you can follow this link http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifafacts/rawrank/ip-590_10e_wrpointcalculation_8771.pdf and read up about FIFA's ranking system yourself and maybe (if your parents arent brother and sister) you might understand it all.

Does Israel deserve 16th? F*cking hell if I know. But they are, which means they are doing something right.

So run along to FIFA's website and do some reading. Their still might be time to save your ignorance.
 
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