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ROME (AP) - Napoli fans will be banned from away games for the rest of the season after a riot on a train to Rome on Sunday.

Interior Minister Roberto Maroni told RAI state TV that he would sign the measure on Wednesday. Local authorities will also be ordered to ban fans who took part in the clashes from attending any sports event for at least two years under the new measure.

A group of several hundred Napoli supporters launched firecrackers, broke windows, slashed seats open and committed €500,000 (US$730,000) worth of damages to a train carrying them to Rome on Sunday.

At least four railway workers were injured and more violence erupted when the train reached the capital for the AS Roma-Napoli game, which ended 1-1.

Rome police said that five people were arrested near the stadium - three Roma supporters and two Napoli fans.

Also, 20 buses set aside to transport Napoli fans from the Rome station to Stadio Olimpico sustained €60,000 (US$88,000) worth of damages, Rome's transport agency said, adding that it was considering a lawsuit against the fans.

After barring visiting fans from high-risk games throughout last season, authorities attempted to be more lenient at the start of this season, and Napoli supporters were allowed to attend the game in Rome.

Maroni said he will order authorities to look at high-risk games "on the basis of serious precedents" and take measures that can include the match being played behind closed doors.
 

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take measures that can include the match being played behind closed doors.
That would suck balls man
 

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This piece of shit
also closed our CURVAs (two sections of our stadium) until Oct. 31.

:thmbdown::thmbdown::thmbdown:

The ****ing media, league, and Northern political racists want to strangle our club. Racist shits.

They're also saying our home UEFA game against Benfica is a high risk game now...:rollani: They want to ruin everything we've accomplished. One of the best things in this city is our club, and they will do everything to destroy it. All that crap about what our fans did is exaggerated Norther Italian racist media bullshit. The whole thing was a set up to make our club suffer.

For those who can't read Italian, I can't really show you the other side of the story. But look at it this way: do you guys remember the riots in Rome and Bergamo after that Lazio fan died? Why weren't Atalanta, Lazio, and Roma penalized like we were? The system in Italy is so backwards, this will not solve anything for starters. **** this league. :yuck:
 

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How about taking some of your anger out on those who comitted the crimes?

You guys were on parole, so to speak, and you blew it.

Btw, Napoli weren't exactly given a rough ride by the referees last year, were they? A conspiracy? Bah!
 

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pffft inter fans, how many last min penalties do you need to be given?
 

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How about taking some of your anger out on those who comitted the crimes?

You guys were on parole, so to speak, and you blew it.

Btw, Napoli weren't exactly given a rough ride by the referees last year, were they? A conspiracy? Bah!
Parole? Inter's Ultras are no better, actually they're worse and known racist shits. Why are you bringing up ref decisions, which have nothing to do with this? Of all the fans to complain, you should be the LAST concerning the refs. :rollani:

Our club shouldn't be penalized for things out of their control, and on top of things, that DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN IN OUR OWN STADIUM! :mad: When your scum fans put up racist banners against us, what type of penalty did they receive? A few rows closed? Pfffft. :yuck: The system in Italy is shit, unless your club is from the North, you are dealt heavy penalties and fines for the same crap that occurs with other clubs. You have to be blind to not realize this already.:scream:
 

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ERRORE DEL GIUDICE TOSEL, Ecco perchè il ricorso può essere accolto
Nel comunicato del Giudice Sportivo si fa riferimento all'articolo 14 che, però, è applicabile solo sulla società ospitante.
10.09.2008 01.43 di Antonio Gaito articolo letto 798 volte

TUTTONAPOLI.NET - Con ogni probabilià giustizia sarà fatta. Il ricorso presentato dal Napoli dovrebbe restituire l'apertura di almeno una delle due curve. Nel comunicato del Giudice Sportivo si fa riferimento all'articolo 14 che, però, è applicabile solo sulla società ospitante. L'errore di Tosel apre nuovi scenari e, alla fine, sarebbe giusto così! Da queste pagine ripetiamo per l'ennesima volta che per pochi non possono pagare oltre 30mila tifosi appassionati, quando si hanno nomi e cognomi di tutti i tifosi che hanno acquistato il biglietto per Roma-Napoli oltre a quelle che sono le responsabilità, come ampiamente evidenziato in questi giorni, da parte della Questura e di Trenitalia che per una gara a rischio non hanno messo a punto la stessa organizzazione che, notizia di queste ore, ci sarà per i tifosi del Catana che andranno in treno a Milano per una gara a rischio molto più basso di quella di Roma come Inter-Catania.



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ERRORE TOSEL, LA NOTIZIA IN RILIEVO SUI PRINCIPALI QUOTIDIANI

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La notizia del clamoroso ed inaspettato errore di Tosel trova ampio spazio sul principale quotidiano cittadino Il Mattino che espone in prima pagina l'evidente errore del dispositivo quando cita l'art.14 preso in causa dal Giudice Sportivo in merito agli incidenti avvenuti nell'impianto romano. L'indiscrezione viene confermata dal Corriere dello Sport: l'articolo del collega Antonio Giordano spiega perchè il Napoli vincerà il ricorso, citando l'articolo 14 applicabile solo alla squadra ospitante, e in questo caso non al Napoli che era impegnato in trasferta nella sfida contro la Roma. La società partenopea potrebbe cosi' ribaltare la discutibile decisione del giudice veneto.

To sum it up for non-Italian readers, this jerkoff nazi scum Tosel is applying rules against us where he can't; specifically, against the away team. :frustrat:

In other ridiculous news mentioned, the game Inter Catania is a high level risk game, but TrenItalia ALL OF THE SUDDEN decided to supply trains for Catania fans. On the other hand, they supplied our fans nothing with the knowledge of 1500 traveling fans to Rome. :rollani:
 

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This piece of shit
also closed our CURVAs (two sections of our stadium) until Oct. 31.

:thmbdown::thmbdown::thmbdown:

The ****ing media, league, and Northern political racists want to strangle our club. Racist shits.

They're also saying our home UEFA game against Benfica is a high risk game now...:rollani: They want to ruin everything we've accomplished. One of the best things in this city is our club, and they will do everything to destroy it. All that crap about what our fans did is exaggerated Norther Italian racist media bullshit. The whole thing was a set up to make our club suffer.

For those who can't read Italian, I can't really show you the other side of the story. But look at it this way: do you guys remember the riots in Rome and Bergamo after that Lazio fan died? Why weren't Atalanta, Lazio, and Roma penalized like we were? The system in Italy is so backwards, this will not solve anything for starters. **** this league. :yuck:
I don't think I ever heard as much BS as I do here. Take your responsibilities before you post...this. :thmbdown:

Magari se i tifosi del Napoli non facessero tutto questo casino sarebbe meglio no? Prima spaccate i treni e poi l'altri so' i cattivi? Lasciamo stare che e' meglio. :yuck::thmbdown::rollani:
 

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Have to agree with Cpt Totti about the taking responsibility.



Roma was punished by loosing 2 points for being outplayed in 2nd half.

True Napoli fans are banned from away travel due to idiots.

...and damn train company pays 500.000 eur for 3 hours of delay :pp
 

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Though I have zero sympathy for any "ultras", especially those who run riot and destroy things, such measure merely show how helpless the authorities are. They might as well ban al fans in Italy from attending football matches, this type of summary "justice" is nonsensical.
 

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It´s long way, from the principle of collective guilt to sanctioning of individuals.
You know authorities can´t ban any individual from attending game of his club, but club can do. Only thing Authorities can do is damaging club and thereby force Club to get rid of hooligans. If the club has no balls to get rid of idiots, well-behaved ordinary fans are suffering along with idiots, being sanctioned by various bans and treated like criminals although they never caused any trouble. When Your club let suffer YOU along with these IDIOTS, such a club probably cares more about IDIOTS than about YOU.

Then comes the public pressure, possible loss of fan base, club slowly realises that 1000 well-behaved fans usually spend 10x more money than 100 trouble-makers. People aren´t stupid, neither are clubs. It´s only question of time when Club starts banning their own "fans" from attending games.

Generally speaking of course.
 

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FN, Inters fans being racist has nothing to do with it and, in any case, unlike you, I DON*T DEFEND THE ACTIONS OF ANY ULTRAS :doh::wallbang:

The authorities said, OK, let's see if the Napoli fans can handle going to away games THIS TIME. Many of them could many of them couldn't. That's parole.

Likewise, I dind't claim Inter weren't lucky with refereeing, I'm just saying the notion that there's somehow an allround RACIST CONSPIRACY against Napoli seems somewhat ridiculous given the help you were given last season (and indeed the season before that) from match officials.



ERRORE DEL GIUDICE TOSEL, Ecco perchè il ricorso può essere accolto
Nel comunicato del Giudice Sportivo si fa riferimento all'articolo 14 che, però, è applicabile solo sulla società ospitante.
10.09.2008 01.43 di Antonio Gaito articolo letto 798 volte

TUTTONAPOLI.NET - Con ogni probabilià giustizia sarà fatta. Il ricorso presentato dal Napoli dovrebbe restituire l'apertura di almeno una delle due curve. Nel comunicato del Giudice Sportivo si fa riferimento all'articolo 14 che, però, è applicabile solo sulla società ospitante. L'errore di Tosel apre nuovi scenari e, alla fine, sarebbe giusto così! Da queste pagine ripetiamo per l'ennesima volta che per pochi non possono pagare oltre 30mila tifosi appassionati, quando si hanno nomi e cognomi di tutti i tifosi che hanno acquistato il biglietto per Roma-Napoli oltre a quelle che sono le responsabilità, come ampiamente evidenziato in questi giorni, da parte della Questura e di Trenitalia che per una gara a rischio non hanno messo a punto la stessa organizzazione che, notizia di queste ore, ci sarà per i tifosi del Catana che andranno in treno a Milano per una gara a rischio molto più basso di quella di Roma come Inter-Catania.



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ERRORE TOSEL, LA NOTIZIA IN RILIEVO SUI PRINCIPALI QUOTIDIANI

di Salvio Passante

La notizia del clamoroso ed inaspettato errore di Tosel trova ampio spazio sul principale quotidiano cittadino Il Mattino che espone in prima pagina l'evidente errore del dispositivo quando cita l'art.14 preso in causa dal Giudice Sportivo in merito agli incidenti avvenuti nell'impianto romano. L'indiscrezione viene confermata dal Corriere dello Sport: l'articolo del collega Antonio Giordano spiega perchè il Napoli vincerà il ricorso, citando l'articolo 14 applicabile solo alla squadra ospitante, e in questo caso non al Napoli che era impegnato in trasferta nella sfida contro la Roma. La società partenopea potrebbe cosi' ribaltare la discutibile decisione del giudice veneto.

To sum it up for non-Italian readers, this jerkoff nazi scum Tosel is applying rules against us where he can't; specifically, against the away team. :frustrat:

In other ridiculous news mentioned, the game Inter Catania is a high level risk game, but TrenItalia ALL OF THE SUDDEN decided to supply trains for Catania fans. On the other hand, they supplied our fans nothing with the knowledge of 1500 traveling fans to Rome. :rollani:

Did it occur to you that Catania's travelling fans might even consider actually BUYING A TRAIN TICKET?
 

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Did it occur to you that Catania's travelling fans might even consider actually BUYING A TRAIN TICKET?
even when all the seats are sold out and no other train is avalaible ? :googly:

Overcrowding the train happened because train company
A) underestimated number of Napoli fans travelling to Rome
B) they did it on purpose

If the A) is right then someone from Train Co. should be fired because he´s PLAIN STUPID. Was anyone fired ? Plan B) maybe too conspirative ? Again, was anyone fired ? If not than the B) doesn´t sound that unrealistic.


In addition, some idiot decided to let the packed train wait 3 hours on Station. Imagine the frustrated fans (those who bought tickets as well) who had to board the overcrowded train, wait 3 hours in unbearable conditions (high temperature, bodies everywhere) and when they finally left Napoli they already knew there is no chance to see the 1st half. They were treated like animals and their frustration is understandable.

Does anyone remember Glasgow Rangers fans who invaded Manchester to see the UEFA-Cup finals on giant screen but the screen broke down short before the kickoff ? This incident started a troubles and noone can say that these troubles were all but unprovoked.



There should be distincion between "unprovoked troubles" and "evoked troubles" and the Napoli incident remind me more of the second one. Only idiot let 1500 people wait 3 hours on few square metres, risking the mass hystery and increasing aggressivity of the crowd. Just ask any psychologist. Even the pensioners on sightseeing tour would went mad under similar conditions.
 

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In other ridiculous news mentioned, the game Inter Catania is a high level risk game, but TrenItalia ALL OF THE SUDDEN decided to supply trains for Catania fans. On the other hand, they supplied our fans nothing with the knowledge of 1500 traveling fans to Rome. :rollani:
how shocking. Btw isn´t their headquarters based in Roma ?
 

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As if the lack of train tickets availabe in any way justified the despicable behavior of these camorra ultras.

Calcio Catania payed for an extra train to be put in.

Btw, NO AWAY FANS FOR INTER V CATANIA.

Conspiracy? Or can Catania fans thank Napoli fans for this?
 

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Instead of whining like a baby, maybe De Laurentiis should consider buying some busses and some stewards? It would take a fraction of the amount he spends on flashy new players.
 

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I am with Forza Napoli on this one. Its a damn shame that the stadium is closed and it is really a bad decision. The San Paolo's atmosphere is amazing and this measure is a blow to football. I also think the train company ****ed up as well they know that there will be a lot of people but they didnt do anything. Same thing happened in Bulgaria with me there was a metal concert and the bus and train companies knew that there will be a lot of people travelling yet they didnt supply us with enough trains and buses and we even had tickets but had to wait for hours. I was suprised no riots broke out as I was pissed as hell myself I mean imagine if we were actually late for the concert there will be total chaos.

Same thing kind of happened here so I am totally with the fans on this one. If the transportation companies cant do their jobs they better take responsibility for this crap :yuck:. I think the media is over reacting as well.
 

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Some of you have a reading comprehension problem. In no way am I defending the actions of the Napoli Ultras, although the other side of the story should be read which you will find below this post. The decision is LUDICROUS, WHY SHOULD OUR CLUB TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOMETHING OUT OF THEIR CONTROL? PLEASE EXPLAIN WITH THE MOST LOGIC AS POSSIBLE, because I doubt you'll have any!


10 SETTEMBRE 2008 - INTERVISTE
KRENNHUBER, ECCO LA VERITÀ SU QUEL 31 AGOSTO
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Clicca qui per il link dell'intervista dell'austriaco derstandard.at al caporedattore del "Ballesterer FM Radio" Reinhard Krennhuber che era in viaggio con gli ultras del Napoli verso Roma. Il giornalista testimonia di scene assurde, tutta un'altra versione rispetto a quanto ci hanno offerto quotidiani e media nazionali. La stessa versione che tantissimi tifosi ogni giorno ci scrive.











ECCO LA TRADUZIONE DELL'INTERVISTA:

I media raccontano di come atti di violenza all'inizio del campionato di serie A abbiano di nuovo danneggiato l’immagine del calcio italiano. Da fonti di agenzia di stampa si apprende di come 1500 Ultras Napoletani abbiano assaltato un treno alla stazione di Napoli costringendo a scendere 300 passeggeri. Inoltre avrebbero ferito quattro controllori di Trenitalia e danneggiato e saccheggiato le carrozze. All'arrivo a Roma Termini avrebbero acceso bombe carta e usato gas lacrimogeni mentre erano scortati dalle forze dell’ordine ai bus verso lo stadio. Trenitalia parla di danni attorno ai 500.000 Euro.

Reinhard Krennhuber, caporedattore della rivista calcistica "Ballesterer fm", accompagnato dal collega Jakob Rosenberg, ha viaggiato insieme agli Ultras Napoletani in trasferta verso Roma e prende posizione in un' intervista al derStandard.at sui fatti accaduti. "Ballesterer fm" ne parlerà in un articolo che uscirà il 7 ottobre sulla crisi nel calcio italiano, raccontando in particolare i fatti della partita Roma – Napoli.

Lei e stato un testimone oculare dei fatti successi alla stazione di Napoli, ci racconta cosa in realtà è successo?

"Innanzitutto non si può assolutamente parlare di Ultras Napoletani che abbiano minacciato e fatto scendere dal treno 300 passeggeri, poi degli attacchi ai controllori di Trenitalia non ne abbiamo preso atto. Il treno sarebbe dovuto partire alle 09:24. Poco dopo le 11 i dipendenti di Trenitalia sono passati sui treni per consigliare ai passeggeri non tifosi del napoli e senza intenzione di andare a Roma di lasciare il treno e di prenderne un altro, cosa che hanno fatto tutti. Alla fine si parte alle 12:30 in un treno strapieno e sovraffollato. All’arrivo a Roma la partita era già iniziata; siamo entrati all' Olimpico al 52° minuto di gioco, una vergogna pensando che la maggior parte degli ultras aveva pagato sia il biglietto del treno che il biglietto di entrata all'Olimpico per 28 Euro. Abbiamo assistito alla demolizione dei bagni ma non si arriverebbe comunque mai alla cifra che Trenitalia ha comunicato ufficialmente, e poi qualcuno mi dica cosa ci sarebbe da saccheggiare in un treno...il tutto si sottrae alla mia immaginazione, come la notizia che gli ultras avrebbero usato gas lacrimogeni alla stazione Termini".

C'è stato qualche momento in cui avete avuto paura che potesse succedere qualcosa?

"Non abbiamo avute paure create dagli ultras napoletani, non hanno attaccato le forze dell’ordine nè alla stazione nè allo stadio, anche perchè sapevano cosa ci fosse in gioco. L’unico momento di tensione è stato quando dopo la partita sono entrate le forze dell’ordine nei bus per picchiare a caso chiunque si trovasse sulla loro via, il tutto con la scusa che queste persone avrebbero ostacolato la partenza dei bus. La cosa più assurda e che questi bus sono partiti poi dopo un'ora e mezza! Ci hanno trattenuto dentro lo stadio per 4 ore senza la possibilità di acquistare acqua o cibo. La promessa di ricevere acqua non è mai stata mantenuta!"

Il Ministero degli Interni italiano vorrebbe emettere un divieto di trasferta ai tifosi napoletani e vorrebbe far giocare a porte chiuse il Napoli sanzionando anche la società con una multa. Lei pensa che questi provvedimenti servano a qualcosa?

"No, trovo il divieto alle trasferte e le porte chiuse un provvedimento molto esagerato. La maggior parte dei tifosi napoletani non ha commesso nessun reato durante la trasferta. Le accuse che gli incidenti siano stati pianificati e orchestrati dai fans o addirittura dalla camorra mi sembrano totalmente assurde, un'invenzione. Al contrario non riesco a smettere di pensare che il tutto, cioè il ritardo e diversi maltrattamenti, siano stati studiati di proposito come per avere una reazione da parte dei tifosi per provocare una reazione ed emanare poi i provvedimenti che adesso vogliono far passare".

Il capo della polizia Antonio Manganelli parla di risultati positivi ottenuti dallo Stato contro la violenza negli stadi. Afferma che dopo la morte dell'ispettore Raciti a Catania ci sono meno incidenti. Racconta poi di come la sicurezza negli stadi sia stata migliorata e come questo abbia di nuovo attirato le famiglie con i bambini a frequentare di nuovo lo stadio. Sono fatti reali o solo belle parole?

"Gli standard di sicurezza sono stati sicuramente migliorati ma si tratta solamente di qualche cancello e qualche tornello in più all’entrata. Gli stadi italiani sono ancora nelle stesse desolanti condizioni di prima, non è cambiato niente all’interno. A parte questo lo Stato italiano usa solamente la via della repressione, non hanno alcuna intenzione di spendere soldi o lavorare insieme ai tifosi per un programma con essi. Poi trovo la deposizione di Manganelli molto cinica, pensando che nel novembre 2007 veniva ucciso Gabriele Sandri da un colpo di pistola esploso da un agente della polizia. Inoltre non riesco a vedere l'incremento delle visite allo stadio da parte di famiglie. A Roma nel settore ospiti ho notato tra le 3600 persone due che erano sopra i 50 anni e cinque o sei donne, cosa che non mi stupisce affatto visto il trattamento a volte disumano che subiscono i tifosi".

Lei a che conclusioni arriva dopo il weekend passato?

"In futuro crederò ancora meno di prima alle notizie di scontri provenienti dall’Italia. C'è una discrepanza enorme tra quello che abbiamo vissuto quel giorno e cosa hanno riportato i media il giorno seguente. Per tutta la giornata non abbiamo incontrato un collega giornalista. I media non hanno fatto alcuna ricerca sul posto, si fanno dare i servizi già pronti dall'ufficio stampa delle autorità. E in quei servizi la versione dei tifosi non viene presa in considerazione o solo minimamente. Raiuno è l’unica emittente che ha fatto parlare anche tifosi e gente comune, e non solo politici e vari esponenti delle autorità su fatti. E quella gente comune e i tifosi raccontano analoghe storie come la nostra vissuta lo scorso weekend."

(Thomas Hirner, derStandard.at, 5. September 2008)


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10 SEPTEMBER 2008 - INTERVIEWS KRENNHUBER, HERE THE TRUTH ON THOSE 31 AUGUST Reinhard Reinhard Krennhuber Clicca here for the link dell' interview dell' Austrian derstandard.at to the caporedattore of the " Ballesterer FM Radio" Reinhard Krennhuber that was in travel with the ultras of Naples towards Rome. The journalist testifies of absurd scenes, all un' other version regarding how much has offered to us daily and medium national. The same version that tantissimi tifosi every day writes to us. HERE TRANSLATION DELL' INTERVIEW: The average tells of like violence actions all' beginning of the championship of series To of new has damaged the image of Italian soccer. From sources of press agency it is learned of as 1500 Ultras Neapolitan they have assaulted a train to the station of Naples having forced to come down 300 passengers. Moreover they would have hurt four controllers of Trenitalia and damaged and plundered the cars. All' arrival to Rome Terms would have ignited tear bombs used paper and gas while they were escorted from the police enforcements to the buses towards the stage. Trenitalia speaks about damages around the 500,000 Euros. Reinhard Krennhuber, caporedattore of the soccer review " Ballesterer fm" , accompanied from the colleague Jakob Rosenberg, it has travelled with to the Ultras Neapolitan in transfer towards Rome and takes position in un' interview to the derStandard.at on the happened facts. " Ballesterer fm" of it will speak in an article that will exit 7 October on the crisis in Italian soccer, telling in particular the facts of the game Rome - Naples. It and be an eyewitness of the facts succeeded to the station of Naples, tells what in reality to us has happened? " In the first place she cannot herself be absolutely spoken about Ultras Neapolitan that they have threatened and made to come down from the train 300 passengers, then of the attacks to the controllers of Trenitalia of it we have not taken to action the train would have had to leave to the 09:24. Little after the 11 dependent of Trenitalia they are passed on the trains in order to advise to the not tifosi passengers of the Naples and without intention to go to Rome to leave the train and to take of an other, what that have made all. At the end part to the 12:30 in a overcrowded train strapieno and. On the credit side arrival to Rome the game already was begun; we are entrances all' Olympic to 52° tiny of game, a shame thinking that the majority of the ultras had paid or the ticket of the train that the entrance ticket all' Olympic for 28 Euros. We have assisted to the demolition of bathes but it would not be never arrived however to the figure that Trenitalia has communicated officially, and then someone says what to me would be from plundering in a train… all is embezzled to my imagination, like the news that the ultras they would have used gas tear to the Termini" station;. C' it has been some moment in which you have had fear that could succeed something? " We have not had fears created from the ultras Neapolitan, have not attacked the police enforcements neither to the station neither to the stage, also because they knew what was in game. The only moment of tension has been when after the game has entered the police enforcements in the buses in order to stick to case anyone was found on their way, all with the excuse that these persons would have hindered the departure of the buses. The more absurd thing and that these buses have left then after un' and now average! They have to us withheld within the stage for 4 hours without the possibility to acquire water or food. The promise to receive water never has not been maintained! " The Ministry of the Insides Italian would want to emit a prohibition of transfer to the Neapolitan tifosi and would want to make to play Naples behind closed doors endorsing also the society with a fine. It thinks that these provisions serve to something? " Not, I find the prohibition to the transfers and the doors sluices a provision a lot exaggerated. The majority of the Neapolitan tifosi does not have store clerk no crime during the transfer. The accusations that the incidents have been planned and orchestrated from fans or quite from the racket me seem totally absurd, un' invention. On the contrary I do not succeed to stop to think that all, that is the delay and various ill-treatments, have been studied of purpose like for having a reaction from the tifosi in order to provoke a reaction and to then emanate the provisions that now they want to make passare". The head of the police Antonio Manganelli speaks about obtained positive result from the State against the violence in the stages. He asserts that after the dead women dell' Raciti inspector to Catania is less incidents. He tells then of like the emergency in the stages has been improved and like this of new he has attracted the families with the children to attend of new the stage. Are made real or single beautiful words? " The standards of emergency have been sure improved but draft only of some gate and some tornello in more to the entrance. The Italian stages are still in the same desolating conditions before, are not changed nothing inside. To part this the Italian State uses only the way of the repression, they do not have some intention to spend money or to work with to the tifosi for a program with they. Then I find the deposition of Manganelli much cynical one, thinking that in November 2007 it came killed Gabriel Sandri from a blow of gun exploded from an agent of the police. Moreover I do not succeed to see l' increment of the visits to the stage from families. To Rome in the field hosts I have noticed between 3600 persons two who were over the 50 years and five or six women, what who do not astonish seen the treatment to me at all sometimes disumano that endures the tifosi". She to that conclusions arrive after the weekend passed? " In future I will believe still less than before to the news of coming crashs from Italy. C' it is an enormous discrepancy between what we have lived that day and what has brought back the average the following day. For all the day we have not met a colleague journalist. The average has not made some search on the place, is made to give the already ready services dall' office prints of the authorities. And in those services the version of the tifosi does not come minimally taken in consideration or solo. Raiuno is only issuing that it has made to speak also tifosi and common people, and the not only political and several exponents of the authorities on facts. And that common people and the tifosi tell analogous history like ours lived the slid one weekend."

If anyone is really interested, I'll do a good translation when I have time.
 

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I don't think I ever heard as much BS as I do here. Take your responsibilities before you post...this. :thmbdown:

Magari se i tifosi del Napoli non facessero tutto questo casino sarebbe meglio no? Prima spaccate i treni e poi l'altri so' i cattivi? Lasciamo stare che e' meglio. :yuck::thmbdown::rollani:
Of all people, once again no surprise, you shouldn't talk...

ROMA ULTRAS: Start riots for no reason after a Lazio fan died. Stab any opposing fan, provoked or not. BTW, out of the fans arrested from our game: 4 were Roma tifosi, 1 was Napoli. The one fan with the knife arrested was a Roma tifoso... surprise surprise. Now, you want to talk about responsibility? Why hasn't the Olimpico been closed yet? How about the fines that Roma deserve? Who was supposed to control what happens in the Olimpico? Napoli? The away team? :rollani: Per piacere...:groan:
 
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