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On topic: I hope we try out all the new players in these warm up games, including Antonini. There have been years were the bench players didn't get much of a chance even in these games...
 

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the thing is that i have never had this opportunity before - to be able to watch the entire summer games period and prepare well for the real season. I am not syaing I will now, but I might and that is exciting.
I also hope to get to see all players, see Bori and Anto in action, see Zambrotta 1st minutes at Milan, see Flamini. Whatever happens on the transfer market b/n now and then, this is a new Milan and there will be new things to see.
 

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The last time I saw a player's first minute with Milan, he flopped for 2 years, after being dubbed as the next big thing :depress:
 

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The last time I saw a player's first minute with Milan, he flopped for 2 years, after being dubbed as the next big thing :depress:
Not much in comparison to what our dear Interisti had to endure for 20 years ;)
 

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Hmmm Winston Bogard or Patrick Kluivert? :D
Yoan Gourcuff :depress:

They started showing Milan summer games onl when Aljazeera Sport went alive!
 

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this is exactly the attitude i hate the most. We have two summers here: the virtual, rumours-type, artificial, silly mercato and the real one, the summer camps, the real games with the real players we have. Yet most fans would prefer to focus on the sureal one and couldn't care less about th real. I will never get it. I much prefer watching a real Milan game(s), seeing how the team trains, play together, try different formations, see the future bench warmers in action, see the team grow game by game, tactics shape up, etc.
You know this only exists in pre-season and the mind of Ancelotti. We shall not play 433, or similiar in any real matches. Sub plans for the season are: Striker for striker, def for def, mid for mid, mid for striker, def for striker.

My biggest hope for pre-season is too see how any of the called up primavera do, and if any can impress. Seeing emerson or favalli using our colours in real matches is depressing enough.
 

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You know this only exists in pre-season and the mind of Ancelotti. We shall not play 433, or similiar in any real matches. Sub plans for the season are: Striker for striker, def for def, mid for mid, mid for striker, def for striker.
You know, the one thing that make this summer even more interesting is that (it might be) a new Milan in a making. As such I am thinking "who knows", may be the old formations are subject to change, revision, may be even more. May be another "new role for Pirlo" is in a making in the mind of Carlo. He knows he has received a credit line. he knows that in almost any team out there he could have had the sack after lats season. Only in Milan (and very few others) thanks to the traditions, the love for continuity, the family thinking (and what I like to think as long term wisdom coming from experience), Carlo was able to stay. But he is on credit. he has to do something, show change, show sth new and he knows it i think.
 

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this is exactly the attitude i hate the most. We have two summers here: the virtual, rumours-type, artificial, silly mercato and the real one, the summer camps, the real games with the real players we have. Yet most fans would prefer to focus on the sureal one and couldn't care less about th real. I will never get it. I much prefer watching a real Milan game(s), seeing how the team trains, play together, try different formations, see the future bench warmers in action, see the team grow game by game, tactics shape up, etc. So by the time of game 1, i have a good idea who is who and why. Yet most fans would rather keep it to goal.com and calciomeracto.it .... The DOT is the most important aspect of one team these days. Shochingly ridiculous.
I dont consider the summer matches "real games". I used to be eager on them, too, in the past, when there was hardly any possibility to watch Milan's official matches beside a couple of CL matches and when I wasnt able to watch them live either. I was very eager to see the new faces (usually in the past a bit more promising than nowadays, even if some of them later turned out to be absolutely awful; fortunately the minority), the primavera kids etc. Kaka's first amichevole was incredible, I was absolutely in awe about the skills of our bimbo d'oro.

Anyway, nowadays I prefer to watch the Euro and then wait for the new season to start at the end of August. Due to the fact I have a busy summer myself with moving to a new place where I can enjoy the festivities of a late victory of an certain national team in red/white much more than I can in Münster, I couldnt be thrilled about yet another friendly between Milan and Lecco or Lok Moscow or another Berlu trophy.
 

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A new Milan in the making? Ma... if you consider replacing 2-3 starters in the very same formation a 'new Milan', then yes, maybe. Otherwise... dream on.
 

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Anyway, nowadays I prefer to watch the Euro and then wait for the new season to start at the end of August..
No no no. Now you are trying to reverse it ;) I also prefer the Euro and real season. The Q is that your prefer the silly season, teh speculations, the goal.com shait, swearing at our own players, attacking Galiani and all that TO the friendly games.
 

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I am indiffierent to the second due to the first. Since we have signed only another Tavano like Borriello, a gobbo average goalie, a (probably) washed up terzino we should have signed maybe 2 ago and Flamini, I am not very eager on the friendlies.

You know, IMO friendlies can be interesting in two cases: First they are thrilling if you have no other chance to watch Milan... I travelledl to one of those friendly tournaments (Ajax one, vs Amsterdam, Valencia and Pool) with friends cause I hadnt had the oppurtunity back then to watch the real matches live.
Second, they are interesting if you sign some big and interesting player you are absolutely eager to finally watch in a Milan jersey. Back then, Nesta and Seedorf for example. If Juve signs Xabi Alonso, I can understand if they are eager to watch Xabi A. and Amauri working together. When we got Kluivert, Ba, Ziege and Co (all big and promising players on the paper), I was eager to watch them trash Juve in the Berlu trophy (back then, the first case was valid for me as well, i.e. lack of real matches). If we sign Eto'o, Zapata and Boruc, I would be eager to watch them play together with Flamini as well. Or take's Inter's signing of Mourinho... let them just add one or two players, this would be enough to get excited, cause evidently Mourinho's Inter will look different from Mancio's one.

However considering how the team looks right now, there is nothing to see I dont know already, beside Flamini and Zambrotta (and the later one doesnt really thrill me a lot after his last seasons with Barca and his current display with Italy).

So in a certain way, the attractivity of the friendlies, for me, currently depend on the way the team will look like. I dont think the friendlies tell a lot about real tactical changes and stuff in the real season cause let's face it, there is one thing to try to play a 4-3-3 vs Lecco, another one playing it against Lecce et al in the the Serie A ;) so screw them, esp. when the coach is still the same. I just care about the new faces, otherwise I am absolutely indiffirent towards summer friendlies.

The rumours about transfers? They suck, esp. since we all deep inside know that Berlu doesnt care anymore and prefers to spend his money for yet another summer residence in Tuscany rather than improving Milan, which obviously is his good right to do so. So no, I dont like either the silly mercato season and Gallianis imbecile interviews, esp. when you expect your rivals to improve more than you do, nor the friendlies with basically the same side that sucked so badly last season.

I just want the EURO to finish and then take a deep breath and hope for a miracle at the end of August.
 

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I am indiffierent to the second due to the first. Since we have signed only another Tavano like Borriello, a gobbo average goalie, a (probably) washed up terzino we should have signed maybe 2 ago and Flamini, I am not very eager on the friendlies.

You know, IMO friendlies can be interesting in two cases: First they are thrilling if you have no other chance to watch Milan... I travelledl to one of those friendly tournaments (Ajax one, vs Amsterdam, Valencia and Pool) with friends cause I hadnt had the oppurtunity back then to watch the real matches live.
Second, they are interesting if you sign some big and interesting player you are absolutely eager to finally watch in a Milan jersey. Back then, Nesta and Seedorf for example.
I was there too. Although Nesta & Seedorf didn't sign till following summer. We had Pippo, Rui, Pirlo, Laursen in that team.

Agreed about watching friendlies, although I like to see if some youngsters get a chance. If only to see a new signing, that makes the fans dream, unlike the last few seasons of nightmares.
 

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Tony: Were you alive when Carlo played 3-4-3 and 3-5-2? :D
 

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I was there too. Although Nesta & Seedorf didn't sign till following summer. We had Pippo, Rui, Pirlo, Laursen in that team.

Agreed about watching friendlies, although I like to see if some youngsters get a chance. If only to see a new signing, that makes the fans dream, unlike the last few seasons of nightmares.
Yes, I couldnt really remember when the Ajax tournament was. I was just giving the names of Clarence and Nesta as an example for exciting big signings. Obviously getting Pippo, Rui and Pirlo back then was thrilling as well. And Terim as a new coach with a different approach to the game.
 

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Tony: Were you alive when Carlo played 3-4-3 and 3-5-2? :D
You wish he did.

Yes, I couldnt really remember when the Ajax tournament was. I was just giving the names of Clarence and Nesta as an example for exciting big signings. Obviously getting Pippo, Rui and Pirlo back then was thrilling as well. And Terim as a new coach with a different approach to the game.
Yeah, it was a different philosophy. I remember whenever we conceded a fk, the players would throw the ball between 2 of them to give others a chance to recover. The midfield in 1st match was Donati, Gattuso, Serginho & Rui.

It was back in 2001, the following season I was in Madrid for that tournament, but Nesta didn't sign till late August, but we played great football. Seedorf was amazing, as was Pirlo.
 

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I am indiffierent to the second ... there is nothing to see I dont know already, beside Flamini and Zambrotta) ...
there is nothing to see you dont know? This is exactly where we differ. There will be plenty to see. First all the new players and how they fit in Milan. Then all the experiments Carlo might try during friendlies. Then some of the young guns who will be checked for some minutes playing time.
Here are few examples. I cant wait to see how Flamini will work and change our midfield. We are so much used to the 5 we know so well, suddenly a new player with a legit shot at starting 11 (first time in years for the midfield) is exciting. Then, I am also eager to see Pato's progress. he was too young and too inexperienced to judge his full potential from January till May. He still delivered a lot, but I cant stop thinking he is much bigger than that and will be. This season could very well be his. I also want to see the one season wonder Borielo working with our midfield. Finally, having the defence is also exciting. Zambrotta made that blunder but that means sh!t if you ask me when it comes to Milan and his first games with our shirt. Zambrotta-Nesta-Kaladze/Bonera-Oddo/Janku is still high quality defence, I want to see how it works.

However, bottom line is that this is REAL! Unlike the calcomeracto thread ;)
 

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However, bottom line is that this is REAL! Unlike the calcomeracto thread ;)
It is not real, but it is official ;)
 
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