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Wow. A blind imbecile could have won that with the players at hand. Not to mention the CL was won with extreme luck facing no big team against the final which was won by penalties only because nedved was missing... and with extreme anti-football, which damaged Italian image :nono:



3 seasons ago with a somewhat more normal team :

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Hapoel Tel Aviv's amazing UEFA Cup run continued Thursday with a 1-0 win over favorites AC Milan in their quarterfinal first leg.

The match was moved to Nicosia after UEFA ruled that Israel was too dangerous a venue for international games during the current volatile security situation.

Helicopters hovered overhead with search lights scouring the stadium and its surroundings as over 1,000 police and undercover units ensured the tie's security.

A 32nd minute strike by diminutive Moldovan striker Sergei Clescenco who volleyed in from an acute angle on the left from a Yossi Abuksis corner undid Milan, five-times European champions.

Hapoel are the first Israeli club ever to reach this stage in the UEFA Cup. Victims in their campaign so far include England's Chelsea and Italy's Parma.

Only around 3,500 Hapoel fans were on hand in the Cypriot capital, but their constant chanting in the 25,000 seat stadium gave the team a comfortable feeling of playing at home. About 17,000 would have been present had the match been played at their Bloomfield ground in Tel Aviv.

There were no Milanese supporters visible and the other side of the ground was occupied by a few hundred local spectators who watched in relative silence. The stadium also hosted around 7,000 local fans, many cheering for the Israeli side.

Milan put plenty of pressure, but Hapoel soaked it up with a confidence that belied their status as a minor side in the competition despite their wins over Chelsea and Parma.

The Italians' best chance came in the 54th minute when Massimo Ambrosini's header was brilliantly parried away by Hapoel keeper Shavit Elimelech, who had another excellent game.

The second leg is in Milan in a week's time. "
 

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Wow. A blind imbecile could have won that with the players at hand. Not to mention the CL was won with extreme luck facing no big team against the final which was won by penalties only because nedved was missing...
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This has been discussed a number of times before I believe. For one, I can always say, that with Nedved, Juve has beaten Milan ony once, it was almost 3 years ago. The blind inbecile, as you call him, unlike a number of colleagues of his, nevertheless in 2 years has won a CL and a Serie A title. This season we still stand a chance of winning something.
 

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Wow. A blind imbecile could have won that with the players at hand. Not to mention the CL was won with extreme luck facing no big team against the final which was won by penalties only because nedved was missing... and with extreme anti-football, which damaged Italian image :nono:
I suggest :star: KEVIN KEEGAN :star:

he is not blind and no way an imbecile, and he is defintely not anti-football, he is just anti defence, maybe you won't win CL but you will have a lot of goals, alot of thrills, a lot of spills along the way. :thumbsup:

it may not be successful but it sure as hell won't be dull :shades:
 

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Juve played perfect football in the CL, and it's obvious that with Nedved the same mind blowing football would have shown in the final as well. It's only anti football that destroyed that. Winning titles is one thing, the reason why the other thing. Ancelotti has shown throughout the years that if he's missing players then he suks... it's only the players who do the job. Even this year he admitted himself he can do nothing without Pirlo. It shows what an idiot he is. And what a football enemy too, with his ugly substitutions... was there ANY game he was leading and didn't drop a forward for Ambrosini ? :yuck: :doh:
 

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Juve played perfect football in the CL, and it's obvious that with Nedved the same mind blowing football would have shown in the final as well. It's only anti football that destroyed that. Winning titles is one thing, the reason why the other thing. Ancelotti has shown throughout the years that if he's missing players then he suks... it's only the players who do the job. Even this year he admitted himself he can do nothing without Pirlo. It shows what an idiot he is. And what a football enemy too, with his ugly substitutions... was there ANY game he was leading and didn't drop a forward for Ambrosini ? :yuck: :doh:
Really? Funny, cause 2 seasons ago Juve qualified in the 2nd group stage with only 7 points. A negative alltime record. On Ancelotti, I can only say, that this season, despite not being able to field Shevchenko and Inzaghi, we managed to do not so bad recently. As far as entertaining football, you need to look no further than the last Juve vs Milan. Only luck prevented you lot from not losing big.
 

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Ancelotti is a born winner as a player and coach,Teams don't win things without the brainstrust of a coach.You go on about Nedved missing out on the final and who knows what would've happened had he played.Yes the Champions league was won by luck and so was the other things we have won.
So obviously that makes Juve's win in 1996 a win by luck judging by your theory.Why didn't your hero produce the goods in the 2003 final?Not good enough perhaps.Think about it had that game against Perugia not of gone ahead like it should've Ancelotti would've won a deserved title at Juventus.
 

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gba said:
Juve played perfect football in the CL, and it's obvious that with Nedved the same mind blowing football would have shown in the final as well. It's only anti football that destroyed that. Winning titles is one thing, the reason why the other thing. Ancelotti has shown throughout the years that if he's missing players then he suks... it's only the players who do the job. Even this year he admitted himself he can do nothing without Pirlo. It shows what an idiot he is. And what a football enemy too, with his ugly substitutions... was there ANY game he was leading and didn't drop a forward for Ambrosini ? :yuck: :doh:
Well, we seem to be doing quite well with him in charge, so I don't have a problem with him. He makes mistakes, but we can say that about every coach.
 

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He doesn't have any winner mentality, he's the ultimate loser :dielaugh: . Player wise and Coach :yuck: wise has nothing to do with one another. If he was so good, why didn't he win anything with Juve ? It was done easily right before and right after. Juve played the best football in the CL two years ago, and everybody saw what Juve could do against Real Madrid which was the 2nd best at the time. Again, it's hard playing against extreme antifootball (qualified on an away goal in san siro??? :eek: )without your number 1 midfielder... best player in Europe...

Btw, Diavolo, I don't know what "you lot" you refer to. I just remember a very boring match. Another one.

Even Cappello is more entertaining. Beautiful match at Firenze tonight, thank God for that. :star:

Anyway, to each his own. :yuck:
 

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He doesn't have any winner mentality, he's the ultimate loser :dielaugh: . Player wise and Coach :yuck: wise has nothing to do with one another. Juve played the best football in the CL two years ago, and everybody saw what Juve could do against Real Madrid which was the 2nd best at the time. Again, it's hard playing against extreme antifootball (qualified on an away goal in san siro??? :eek: )without your number 1 midfielder... best player in Europe...

Btw, Diavolo, I don't know what "you lot" you refer to. I just remember a very boring match. Another one.

Even Cappello is more entertaining. Beautiful match at Firenze tonight, thank God for that. :star:

Anyway, to each his own. :yuck:
I rarely disagree with every single point raised in a post. I this case I do :)

P.S. But for the entertaing game played this evening.
 

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I hate to say that, but, it's really really bad match for Billy and Pancaro.

I once watched a Brescia player received a header in the penalty header with Billy standing in front of him but not trying to jumping at all...the team has no heart on the game honestly...


I hope I could see a 100% different Milan on Tuesday.

By the way, what a beauty from Rui Costa. Some months ago people said he's finished.;)
 

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He doesn't have any winner mentality, he's the ultimate loser :dielaugh: . Player wise and Coach :yuck: wise has nothing to do with one another. If he was so good, why didn't he win anything with Juve ? It was done easily right before and right after. Juve played the best football in the CL two years ago, and everybody saw what Juve could do against Real Madrid which was the 2nd best at the time. Again, it's hard playing against extreme antifootball (qualified on an away goal in san siro??? :eek: )without your number 1 midfielder... best player in Europe...
Wow...I remember a different story altogether two years ago: I remember one team crushing both "groups of death" and being hailed for bringing Italian football back to the front pages minus the catenaccio. I remember another team struggling to get past its groups and losing to Deportivo, (same one that Milan beat 4-0 in their group) and getting whipped by MAN U not once but twice.
Oh and someone was speaking of going through to the finals on luck:
hmmm I guess relying on the "big guns" like Montero and scoring in the 114th minute is a more 'convincing' and unequivocal win showing one's superiority (gimmie a break kid).
Or perhaps thanking Figo's terrible pk to get you through to the final is a clear indiciation of this 'superiority' you speak of.
The Final..how can we forget Juve being unable to get through Milan even when Roque Junior was hobbling on one leg for 15 minutes. Sheer indication of superiority once again.
 

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Stupid arrogance killed us. How many points we dropped vs small teams this season?
Almost as much as any other season ... I am still chocked when I see Milan fans shcocked that Milan doesnt keep a stright record against small teams in Italy ... ;)

Nothing special has happened anyway. We have gained so many points in last minute goals, now we got one back. Its good Juve didnt win. It will down to our game v Zebras and Inter I guess.

Lets focus on teh real thing. We have a job to finish off Tuesday. :cool:

PS gba, you are really lost in space ... :stoned:
 

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gba more useless and pointless arguments from you,Why don't you try and state something new instead of the same record.You can't accept that Ancelotti has won everything as a coach and player,so what else do you need to be proven with?
 

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1. He doesn't have any winner mentality, he's the ultimate loser :dielaugh:

2. Player wise and Coach :yuck: wise has nothing to do with one another.

3. If he was so good, why didn't he win anything with Juve? It was done easily right before and right after.

4. Juve played the best football in the CL two years ago, and everybody saw what Juve could do against Real Madrid which was the 2nd best at the time.

5. Again, it's hard playing against extreme antifootball (qualified on an away goal in san siro??? :eek: )without your number 1 midfielder... best player in Europe...

6. Even Cappello is more entertaining. Beautiful match at Firenze tonight, thank God for that. :star:

7. Anyway, to each his own. :yuck:

Let me disinfect this one.

1. I guess that is why he have won several titles and have one if not the best wins to losses ration of all coaches in serie A. But logic doesn't seem to be your strong point.

2. Yes he also won a lot of things as a player, are you now trying to lie about him to prove your ignorance.

3. Because there where teams that where about as good, he took record points for Juve in one of those second place finishes. But we are happy anyway, it's not like we wanted him to win with Juve :yuck:

4. Nonsense, you seem to like to base your seasonal arguments on one game all the time. We already beat up that same Real Madrid team in out group by finishing first after 4 games, we did that in both groups while you scraped trough. Want to mention the Inter games? Why no mention how Barcelona outplayed you but you won on a counterattack in overtime?

5. The only team that played anti-football in that game where your team, need I mention you didn't even manage to have any shots at our goal in regular time? That Buffon was your best player and saved you on some occasions? That we beat your team with Nedved in the league just weeks before the game? Oh please go on.

6. See again, base everything on one game. why not base it on your away game against Real Madrid?

7. hehe
 

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Let me disinfect this one.

1. I guess that is why he have won several titles and have one if not the best wins to losses ration of all coaches in serie A. But logic doesn't seem to be your strong point.

2. Yes he also won a lot of things as a player, are you now trying to lie about him to prove your ignorance.

3. Because there where teams that where about as good, he took record points for Juve in one of those second place finishes. But we are happy anyway, it's not like we wanted him to win with Juve :yuck:

4. Nonsense, you seem to like to base your seasonal arguments on one game all the time. We already beat up that same Real Madrid team in out group by finishing first after 4 games, we did that in both groups while you scraped trough. Want to mention the Inter games? Why no mention how Barcelona outplayed you but you won on a counterattack in overtime?

5. The only team that played anti-football in that game where your team, need I mention you didn't even manage to have any shots at our goal in regular time? That Buffon was your best player and saved you on some occasions? That we beat your team with Nedved in the league just weeks before the game? Oh please go on.

6. See again, base everything on one game. why not base it on your away game against Real Madrid?

7. hehe
8) Last season and this season Nedved was playing.
 
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