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We need new fresh blood starting the threads to give the players new confidence.

I predict a 3-1 win. Scorers will be Hakan, Piatek, Kessie (p) and Mussachio (OG).
 

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I also think we will somehow win this game.

BTW even if the team is playing with high confidence I think we will continue suffering from the lack of quality of the following players:
- Musachio - main weakness his decision making (many stupid penalties caused) and also the headers.
- Calabria and Conti, they looked average before BUT these last games they are awful. Maybe we should play a CD there or even one of Borini or RR.
- Biglia - cant remember him have many good games. Weak passing, weak defending
- Kessie - dont think he can reach the next step, now he is just average at best.
- Suso - everyone knows why, and to expensive to play as a sub.
- Hakan - had that great game vs Lecce, but got back to his old self right away. Not a big club player.
Subs:
- Bennacer - said before that i will be surprised he will be much better than Mauri and until now he has proven me right...hope this changes but little hope in that.
- Duarte - played ok the one game he started, but dont think he can make the difference, Still would play him before musachio.
- Krunic - dont know why we have to spend millions on players that are probably worst than what we have in the primavera

Others:
Bonaventura and Caldara - after their injuries will be difficult to return to their best.

THE GOOD
- Donnaruma, Theo and to lesser extend Roma

The HOPE
- Leao and Piatek - hopefully they can improve and be a constant threat
- Paqueta - could have put him in the low quality players after his showings BUT still there is a slim hope for him to succeed.
- Rebic - to be fair he hasnt played much, even though when he did play he was very bad.

Others dont have any real chance to become important to this club.
 

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Rumors of Pioli trying out a back three. I usually hate this experiment but our RBs have been so bad I understand it.
 

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We need new fresh blood starting the threads to give the players new confidence.
I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Rodriguez will decide when it’s time for the Scudetto-winning 2011 /undefeated last season with 4 wins out of 4 started match threads / 20 posts from becoming an XT legend after 18 years thread-starter to take over!

I predict a 3-1 win.
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4-3-3: Donnarumma; Calabria, Musacchio, Romagnoli, Theo; Bennacer; Kessie, Hakan/Paqueta; Suso/Castillejo, Bonaventura/Rebic; Piatek/Rafael.
 

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We have not been playing 4-3-3 though under Pioli. Seems 4-2-3-1 to me.

I would not be super happy with a drastic change of system; maybe in the attacking side but changing to a back three right now... I would not say panic but risky. It's very different to Giampaolo though. MG was supposed to be a system oriented, inflexible coach. He played half the team out of position to accommodate his system and then just dropped the system after trying it a few times during the the first half of games. It was just messy. And this was after a whole summer. For a new coach who arrives mid season, tinkering a bit with formations at the beginning is completely expected.

And as said before, I think it's absolutely fine to switch formations regularly if there is a solid structure. Some of the best teams and the bets managers in the world do it. The problem is Milan still lack the basic structure, nine games into the season.

Maybe time to play Paquetá as AMR? Definitely need to work out a way to make him useful.

It seems the attacking midfielder positions are pretty flexible anyway under Pioli. Suso was quite clearly ordered to stay very wide most of the time, but even him drifted without the ball more often under Pioli than under other coaches (maybe in part because he saw a lot less of the ball).


--------------------Donna-----------------

---play a kid--Musacchio---Roma---Theo----

----------Bennacer---Biglia/Kessie------

----Paqueta------Hakan--------Leao--

---------------Porn Tech---------------
 

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We have not been playing 4-3-3 though under Pioli. Seems 4-2-3-1 to me.

I would not be super happy with a drastic change of system; maybe in the attacking side but changing to a back three right now... I would not say panic but risky. It's very different to Giampaolo though. MG was supposed to be a system oriented, inflexible coach. He played half the team out of position to accommodate his system and then just dropped the system after trying it a few times during the the first half of games. It was just messy. And this was after a whole summer. For a new coach who arrives mid season, tinkering a bit with formations at the beginning is completely expected.

And as said before, I think it's absolutely fine to switch formations regularly if there is a solid structure. Some of the best teams and the bets managers in the world do it. The problem is Milan still lack the basic structure, nine games into the season.

Maybe time to play Paquetá as AMR? Definitely need to work out a way to make him useful.

It seems the attacking midfielder positions are pretty flexible anyway under Pioli. Suso was quite clearly ordered to stay very wide most of the time, but even him drifted without the ball more often under Pioli than under other coaches (maybe in part because he saw a lot less of the ball).


--------------------Donna-----------------

---play a kid--Musacchio---Roma---Theo----

----------Bennacer---Biglia/Kessie------

----Paqueta------Hakan--------Leao--

---------------Porn Tech---------------
 

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^^^

In that formation I'd like to see the three AMs swap positions quite a bit, and in fact would love to see Leao in the RW at some points. The guy can clearly beat his man often, would be nice to see him own the flank and put in some crosses.
 

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Isn't this the sort of panicking that got Giampaolo in trouble? Start shuffling after a game or two?
Not really. MG spent an entire summer training under one system, then panicked after one game. Pioli took over in the middle of the season, we have sucked all season with a back four, and our RBs are directly responsible for lost points two games in a row. It is hardly a panic imo.
 

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But any of that is hardly news. Suso tends to be shit for ten games or so a season, usually long-ish patches like this, just not at the start. That is one of his many limitations. And we all knew he can only play RW apparently, basically he scored a good goal in pre-season as AMC and we all got blinded by optimism.

Unfortunately all the nuanced discussion gets buried under donkey-type posts and the responses they generate, which happens regardless of how he plays.

I doubt we'll play a back three anyway. Sounds like a back 4, just with the Brazilian as RB. Especially if the point is to bench Conti and Calabria. I mean it's not impossible, but what would a formation look like using a back 3 and not playing Conti or Calabria?

However if they are played in a role that demands less from defensively, on paper this is not terrible:


-------------------------Donna--------------------------

--------------Duarte---Musacchio---Romagnoli--------

--Conti/Calabria------------------------------------Theo

----------------Bennacer----Biglia/Kessie-------------

------------------------Paqueta-------------------------

-------------------Leao---------Piatek----------------
 

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Although based on current form, that actually should be: Hakan/Paqueta, or even Paqueta in a deeper role alongside a DM or both together as mezzale if we played a 1-2 midfield.

This is SPAL at home after all, so:


------------------------Donna--------------------------

--------------Duarte---Musacchio---Romagnoli--------

--Conti/Calabria------------------------------------Theo

------------------------Bennacer-----------------------

---------------Paqueta-----------Hakan--------------

-------------------Leao---------Piatek----------------
 

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The HOPE

- Paqueta - could have put him in the low quality players after his showings BUT still there is a slim hope for him to succeed.
There is one thing I've noticed and that is whenever LP is in a good attacking position Hakan&Suso never pass it into him. Not going to say I am a conspiracy theorist but ill pay more attention to this to see if it's a trend or not.
 

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Suso is untouchable. He will start.
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^^^

In that formation I'd like to see the three AMs swap positions quite a bit, and in fact would love to see Leao in the RW at some points. The guy can clearly beat his man often, would be nice to see him own the flank and put in some crosses.
Totally agree. The guy has a lot of potential and it's def worth exploring to see where he can be at his most effective. Under a smart coach, I think he can be a very scary player.
 

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Totally agree. The guy has a lot of potential and it's def worth exploring to see where he can be at his most effective. Under a smart coach, I think he can be a very scary player.
Was thinking the same, with C. Ronaldo in mind. No comparison obviously, but that's a player who improved so much and noticeably under two great managers, he became a different player with each while keeping what was great about him.

Imagine if instead of Ferguson and Mourinho his managers were any of Milan's managers since Allegri.


Anyway, looks like it will be four back with Duarte as RB?

In practice I imagine that would imply Theo very free to attack on the left, and whoever plays RW with very little defensive responsibilities.

What's tricky in that scenario is whether whoever plays LW (and/or the DMs) can cover Theo well enough, and whether whoever play RW can do enough damage on their own. It would be hard to think it could be Suso in current form or Samu in any form... On paper we have many other options, but what will it be? Rebic, Bonaventura, Borini, Paqueta, Leao....

I'd say the best right now is a very flexible:

---Leao----Paqueta---Hakan

------------Piatek-----------

Or the one I put before, or any combination of those four.

Where Paqueta finally starts playing some football and lives up to his potential, Leao takes over the flanks and in a big step forward destroys his markers every time, Hakan's body is again possessed by Rui Costa like it was vs Lecce, and the Porn Tech takes his chances.
 
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