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Our club has been trimming the fat for years in terms of bringing in bigger and better players and managers into the squad. This has no doubt reaped its benefits as we’ve seen the most successful champions league campaign we’ve ever had, and I’m sure there is more to come in the coming years, now that we have our names out there.
But there is one problem I have, our doctors. They have royally screwed us with their constant ‘misdiagnosis’.

Our doctors are: Prof. Dr. Omer Taser and Piyer Arzuman (MD?)

Take our first example:
Serdar Kulbilge: http://www.fenerbahce.org/popdetay.asp?ContentID=8660

On September 14th 2007, according to this article by Fenerbahce.org, Arzuman and Taser believed that Serdar doesn’t need surgery after he passed a medical.

He got injured in the Sivas game only a few weeks later. It was rather innocent, but you could tell the guy wasn’t really fully healthy.
On October 8th, he got surgery. It was said that he was going to have at least a month of rehabilitation before he can start back up with the squad. The surgery was merely to “destek” his leg, meaning to refortify any weaknesses.

He came back 3 months later. He was in training for the Alanyaspor match for the first time since his injury.

http://www.fenerbahce.org/popdetay.asp?ContentID=10314 (dated 2 months later than originally planned). I know an injury like this is dependent on a player, but the guy was 2 months off, well almost 3 months actually.

Stephan Appiah: http://www.fenerbahce.org/popdetay.asp?ContentID=8660

On the same article as Serdar, Appiah was listed as having no problems after a medical on September.

Well we all know what happened, guy went to Italy to get tests done and he has blood clots. Disappointing to say the least, his season was closed before it even started.

Roberto Carlos: http://www.fenerbahce.org/popdetay.asp?ContentID=10773

On this article, the day of the win against Sevilla (3-2), Piyer Arzuman told the media that Carlos would be gone for 1 week. Dated February 20.
Carlos goes to Italy 2 weeks later and finds out the injury diagnosis was wrong… again.

Roberto Carlos today just went through another medical MRI. If only this guy diagnosed these things properly, this guy could’ve been back for the Chelsea clash, one of the main reasons why we bought him Piyer, was to play him in games like these.

I could go on about Deniz Baris too, but I’m getting too upset.

I invite Aziz Yildirim and our board to fire this less than qualified ‘doctor’.
 

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I believe this doctor is doing more harm than good at our club. If i remember correctly, Alex got injured a few seasons a go and a doctor misdiagnosed the condition then aswell. He was expected to be out for a few days but was out for a month and missed some champions league games.
 

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nice job bringing up this point. Club doctors are some of the most important staff members and I agree that we should upgrade these positions
 

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I really feel for Appiah though, i think he was heartbroken once he had understood the real extent of his injury when he went to Italy.
 

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Dr.Ömer Taşer isn't a club doctor. He's Turkey's top orthopedic surgeon, I believe, and he does surgeries for BJK (and GS) players as well.

RC's case isn't a mis-diagnosis. The damage to the bone was worse that it initially appeared and the club needed to control all news flows. Besides, if one of these multi-millionaire players needed a surgery, they wouldn't do it in Turkey. (Except for Appiah.)

Appiah's problem should have been detected much earlier. Appiah simply didn't know whether Istanbul's top doctors are better or worse than those most-reputed in Italy.
 

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Well we actually have 4 misdiagnosed players in our hands. I don't care how reputable he is, he clearly isn't doing something right.

My apologies on claiming Taser is on the club, but on numerous articles he was mentioned, i didn't know whether he was part of the club or not.

Doesn't change the fact that we have problems in terms of injuries.
 

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Appiah was also misdiagnosed in Italy initially too, it was third time lucky for him.

Sports medicine in most of the European leagues isn't the strongest, unfortunately. Harry Kewell's career has gone down the drain since he joined Liverpool and was put through sub-standard medical treatment. Joey Didulica was terribly diagnosed at AZ Alkmaar and only realised the true extent of his injury when Louis van Gaal recommended he seek an expert second opinion in Australia.

It's probably at it's strongest in the U.S. and in Australia, though France is quite good from what I gather (except when doctors can't recognise Zidane and won't let him visit Ronaldo in hospital :howler:).

Our players and coaching staff are very heavily foreign based. Our pitch doctor is German, so yes, why not enlist a foreign expert to help with the sports medicine at the club?
 

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I'm really concerned about this. The list of those out injured without a clear return date would really help the squad at the moment.

Volkan
Carlos
Deniz
Appiah

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Will Appiah stay at Fener? If so, do you think he will be healthy for the start of next season? He is one of my favorite players in the world since I saw him score a sick goal in his last game for Juventus and then kill at the World Cup. Imagine you guys this year in the Champs League with Appiah :dazed:
 

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Can you imagine this lineup was healthy and available to defend a 1 goal lead at Stamford Bridge?

Volkan
Gokhan -- Lugano -- Edu -- Carlos
Deniz -- Moldonado -- Aurelio
Appiah ---- Alex
Semih/Kezman
 

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so its been confirmed that carlos is out for 3 months. his old club is helping him recover. also i read that on an interview to a french magazine he stated that he was given the wrong medicine after the sevilla game. **** up after **** up for the medical staff.
 

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This was the last straw. They should be replaced immediately.
 

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With as passionate as Aziz Yildrim is about growing Fenerbahce into a world class sports club, I have to imagine this is making him furious. Volkan Balili should be held accountable for the medical staff of the football branch diagnosing and treating injuries correctly. Appiah and Carlos being out is a very expensive mistake.

Something needs to be done immediately.

Doktorlar Istifa!!!
 

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It's very difficult to understand the statement posted on Palmeiras' official site. palmeiras.com.br

It says he suffers from stress fractures on his left leg. Even if Fener's doctors were all interns, this wouldn't happen. If there's a fracture (hairline crack on the shin bone), the leg must be placed in plaster and he wouldn't walk until the bone heals.

My guess is he suffers from infections. When a bone suffers an open break (sometimes called a fracture), you need to go through a surgical procedure to disinfect the exposed area before sealing the cut with stitches. This should be basic as I assume doctors at Acibadem treat numerous traffic accident patients day and night.
However, to shorten the recovery (Sevilla 2nd-leg was 13 days away), the doctor somehow skipped the procedure and sewed the cut, giving the player antibiotics.

Failing to diagnose Appiah's disease (deep vein thrombosis) is somewhat understandable. But failing on RC, a €4m/yr player, is beyond my imagination. Has this person ever been trained in sports medicine (before finding a job at FB)? Was Mr. club doctor the only one responsible? (I don't think so.)
 

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If he seriously has a fracture, like I said in the other thread it's basically impossible to misdiagnose that.

So if he has it and they did misdiagnose it, I'll fracture their skulls and then give them headache tablets.
 

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It won't take that long, I think 3 months is just the time frame they've given because it gets him back in time for the start of next season.

With proper care he should be back in about 2 months, and should be able to join the team again before all the nasty fitness work begins in pre-season :devil:

EDIT - Should've also mentioned that overstating recovery time is something better medical staffs will do. Not like our idiots who say "yeah he'll be fine, 10 days" to everything.
 

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Şeytan;6273414 said:
So if he has it and they did misdiagnose it, I'll fracture their skulls and then give them headache tablets.
HAHAHHA sounds like a party :howler:
 

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So RC is out for the rest of the season for various chronic injuries. (FB.org)

It doesn't sound good. I thought FB had Moraci Sant'anna for the very purpose and RC escaped as soon as CL campaign's over!

RC was regarded as example of supreme professionalism that Turkish players should look up to and now the media start leaking his endless night-outs that ruined his health...

But he will return in time for next season's CL group league matches. Pre-season camp? CL qualifiers? Remember, he's 35 and very injury-prone. ;)

Still, the medical staff did well to keep Alex healthy the whole season. Exceptionally well...
 
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