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Looking at our last 8 home games and our last 8 away games its obvious that Skopje stadium dont suit Macedonia NT... I dont know exactly what the problem is but something is very wrong, Maybe it is the pitch ? maybe the pitch is to bigg ? maybe we should make it smaller ? can it be the running tracks and that public is far from the pitch ? or is the stadium simply bring bad luck, did some when put some evil balck magic on the pitch ????

Taking not over the last years results hom and away and add the 7games who have been playd in Macedonia out side Skopje its become even more absurd, we have playd 6 games in Prilep and won 5 and drow 1and no loss.. and one game in Tetovo..

Macedonia-Finland 1-0 (Prilep) (1-0 Goran Stavrevski) (2003) (Finland hade Forsell,Hypie and Litmanen, a good team and it wos live on MKTVsat)
Macedonia- Malta 2-0 (Prilep) ( 1-0 Sasa Ciric,2-0 Sasa Ciric) (1997)
Macedonia-Bulgaria 0-0 (Prilep) (No goals)
Macedonia-Albania 1-0 (Prilep) (1-0 Zarko Serafimovski from Penalty)
Macedonia-Albania 3-1 (Prilep) (1-0 Ilco Naumoski,2-0,Ilco Naumoski,2-1 Ervin Skela,3-1 Dragan Dimitrovski (2003)
And the last game i forgott about but i think it wos Malta again...

Macedonia-Albania 5-1 (dont remember the scores)


It seem like Prilep give us luck, maybe cos the pitch is a bit smaller then in Gratski ? the public is not far away and make better pressure :) Or is it just the Air :)

we should renovate the stadium in Prilep and make a modern 10.000 Stadium just like that one in Tallin...

Or make Maldost in Strumica a 10.000 Stadium ? everything else is green lighet for NT games in Strumica who have uefa standard, jut need to put 4.000 more chair...

So Prilep or Strumica !!! Skopje bring us bad luck...
 

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The problem is that as soon as Macedonia recieves a goal or is playing bad, the fans in Skopje boo them, this only dimotivates the plays more. Our fans are shocking, macedonians should always cheer their team even when it is loosing. I say play in Bitola.. best fans there.
 
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For my it do not matter if it would be Bitola or Prilep, i think we should play in Pelagonija cos it will be hard for Strumicani to fill a 10.000 stadium since only 60.000-70.000 live in that city and its a long trip for many people from other citys to make....

If we play in Bitola or Prilep a 10.000 stadium will always be full,, Bitola is very close to Prilep and in this area of 20-25 KM it live about 250.000 people and this are the most fanatic Macedonians in the hole Macedonia, Pelagonija is the most fanatic place....

I truly belive that the good Macedonia results in Pelagonija and the bade Results in Skopje is no coincidence...

One more thing that make me belive that its no coincidence is the Handball NT and not only the Soccer NT,s Results in pelagonija VS skopje..

Cheek this out, Macedonia male handball NT have never ever lost a singel game in Maldost stadium, not one singel ECQ game or WCQ game or a play of game.... Macedonia have playd against teams like Russia,Croatia (Righet after that Croatia become olympic champions 1996) and Hungary (2003) in Bitola and we won all this game against handball gigant.... The stadium Maldost do boil when Macedonia play ther and it effect the players and the reff...

Just in the soccer Macedonia male handball NT have many importent losses in Skopje, many importent Play Of losses....

All this can not be un coincidence simpel as that, it have to do with the cheering...


Macedonia soccer NT Move out side Skopje now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Imam igrano na stadionot Goce Delcev vo Prilep, i jas ne bi dozvolil da se igra tamu fudbal. Eve zasto, igralisteto e epten malo. treba da se rusat dve tribini prvin za da se zgolemi. Ova na Kokta vo Gjorche e pogolemo. Tumbe Kafe e ok, samo sto ke treba da se izgradi uste edna tribina, da se stavat reflektori, i sekako da se isecat topolite. Mladost e ekstra stadion, i po moe mislenje e deka tamu od start moze da se igra, ako ne prv barem, u21 treba da gi igraat tamu utakmicite.
 

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Best solution would be to build some modern 14k - 16k big stadion in Bitola. But of course there is no money for sport in our country ..... only for big villas, mercedes' and other stuffs that our beloved criminals can afford. But sport?! and modern stadion?! NO WAY!!!!

Stupid pathetic brainless fukcin criminals and other destroyers of our country.

edit: still under impression of yesterdays "game" so you should understand me :D
 
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Nema veze dali igralishteto e malo, slicno e kako ona vo La vella vo Andorra vo Diametar ali Ocigledno ni odgovara cim nemame Porazi vo Fudbal i Rakomet vo Pelagonija....
Mora da ima veze.... A stadince za 10.000 se pravi za edna godina ako se fatat site za rabota.... a Stadion od 10.000 ne kosta kuznet kolku...

Jas topicot go otvoriv paradi sho se nadevam deka nekoj od nashite mediumi ke go vidat ova i ke svatat deka neshto treba da se pravi i deka ne ni odi vo Skopje i deka lujgeto vo Pelagonija se golemi navivaci, pa tuka e i Resen i Prespa vo Bliznina, i nie znajme da navivame i sme golemi makedonci...


Znam deka idat tuka im mu se molam na Makedonski Sport da pocni edna vakva akcija za izleguvanje od Skopje, bi sakal preku MS da dojdi do FFM pa baram ideata da bide vo javnost,, toa e dobro za Makedonski fudbal i sport MS
 
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And to make you people even more Sure that the good NT results in Prilep (Soccer) and Bitola (Handball) is no coincidence then cheek this. It most have to do with the fans, cheek this...

Pobeda Prilep games (In Prilep) and they have only one loss and in that loss Pobeda Prilep should have won, they lost to balsany of (TCH) i wos on the games VS Zagrab,Balsany and Rizespor,, tha supporting wos eletric.... 0-1 against balany,, Pobeda did miss aboput 15 great chances, 7-8 100% chances, speciell Krstev,,, Mirslav Gogic could not play VS Balsany, i wos ther with my uncle....


Pobeda-Odra (poland) 2-1, I wos on this game, Oliveira scord in the last minutes...

Pobeda-Mittjylland (Denmark) 2-0

Pobeda-Perugia (Italya) 0-0 (it wos so much people on such a small area, i wos on this game as well, I did drink so much juice; and i need to piss so badly so i did it against the Wall inside the stadium lol, i did not care that people could see mee... I did buy all the time from this who did sell the juice and this who sell SoncoGled....

Pobeda-Spartak Trnava (SLK) 2-1
Pobeda-Dukla Trencin (SLK) 3-1

Pobeda-Rizespor 2-1 ( I wos on this game)
Pobeda-Zagreb 1-1 ( I wos on this game)
Pobeda-Balsany 0-1 (I wos on this game)

Pobeda-Craiova (Romania) 1-0
Pobeda-Farul (Romania) 2-2
Pobeda-Pashing (Austria) 1-1

And now cheek the results out side Prilep that wos playd on Gratski

Pobeda-Hamburg 1-4
Pobeda-Pynik (Armenia) 1-3
Pobeda-Parma 0-2
Pobeda-Smederevo 2-1

Its something with skopje stadium, it dont souit US!!!!
 

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Дефинитивно треба натпреварите што се со помал интерес и на кој се очекува помалку гледачи да се играат надвор од Скопје. За овој циклус тоа би биле натпреварите со Андора и Естонија
 
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Jas sum za da se igra non stop vo Pelagonija a pomali utakmici vo Strumica...

Nema zasto da ne igrame golemi naprevari vo eden nov stadion za 10.000 gledaci vo pelagonija koga ocigledno ni odi tamu i non stop pobeduvame vo se...

Utshte ednash do mediumite da napravat neshto bidejki sami gi gledate site fakti i site rezultati sho gi staviv vo prviot post i vo drugite, ova bi bilo dobra za nas bidejki no odgovara od nekoj pricini koj i da se a vo skopje ne ni odi...

Aj v se molam mediumski priateli, spremni sme vo Pelagonija da go prezemime nacionalniot Fudbalski tim, znajme kako se bodri ekipa i definitivno nie Pelagoci povejke ja bodrime makedonija i pandev nego skopjani, sho ocigledno ja sakat CECA povejke..
 

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Isrtovo go pisav na romanticarui forumot, ke go citiram od tamu:

Znaci nasive koga igraat doma noze im se secat od trema. Daj bolje da igrame vo Solun kako domasen teren, cel stadion ke bide protiv nas ali barem ke igrame asolno. Ova vaka ne ide. odtri natprevari na gosti dva pati tepavme i ednas remi i toa bez primen gol (4:0), dodeka doma dva pati igravme i isto tolku go jadevme i toa bez daden gol (0:3). To e cudna rabota!
 

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Looking at our last 8 home games and our last 8 away games its obvious that Skopje stadium dont suit Macedonia NT... I dont know exactly what the problem is but something is very wrong, Maybe it is the pitch ? maybe the pitch is to bigg ? maybe we should make it smaller ? can it be the running tracks and that public is far from the pitch ? or is the stadium simply bring bad luck, did some when put some evil balck magic on the pitch ????

Taking not over the last years results hom and away and add the 7games who have been playd in Macedonia out side Skopje its become even more absurd, we have playd 6 games in Prilep and won 5 and drow 1and no loss.. and one game in Tetovo..

Macedonia-Finland 1-0 (Prilep) (1-0 Goran Stavrevski) (2003) (Finland hade Forsell,Hypie and Litmanen, a good team and it wos live on MKTVsat)
Macedonia- Malta 2-0 (Prilep) ( 1-0 Sasa Ciric,2-0 Sasa Ciric) (1997)
Macedonia-Bulgaria 0-0 (Prilep) (No goals)
Macedonia-Albania 1-0 (Prilep) (1-0 Zarko Serafimovski from Penalty)
Macedonia-Albania 3-1 (Prilep) (1-0 Ilco Naumoski,2-0,Ilco Naumoski,2-1 Ervin Skela,3-1 Dragan Dimitrovski (2003)
And the last game i forgott about but i think it wos Malta again...

Macedonia-Albania 5-1 (dont remember the scores)


It seem like Prilep give us luck, maybe cos the pitch is a bit smaller then in Gratski ? the public is not far away and make better pressure :) Or is it just the Air :)

we should renovate the stadium in Prilep and make a modern 10.000 Stadium just like that one in Tallin...

Or make Maldost in Strumica a 10.000 Stadium ? everything else is green lighet for NT games in Strumica who have uefa standard, jut need to put 4.000 more chair...

So Prilep or Strumica !!! Skopje bring us bad luck...
u forgot Macedonia 2-2 Egypt in Kumanovo, but all those matches were frendlies.I think we won also all the matches outside Tirana. We beat the russians in Shkodër. I agree with u:thumbsup: ,we should do as in Ecuador, build a Stadium on the top of the mountain not under 2500 m over sea level.
 
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Its Kumanovo;) !!!

Anyway your righet, i forgott that game it wos a drow as you told 2-2.... But that is one more game out side Skopje that we did not lose... So all in all we playd 8 games out side skopje and did not lose one sigel game...

Malta my be poor, but Egypet(one of the best africa teams),Finland and Bulgaria are prity good teams, and Albania is not that bad...

That cant be un coincidence....

In Prilep we beat Finland 1-0, In Skopje we lose 0-3 :rollani: Finland playd 90% with the same team...

A you told, Albania tryd to play out side Tirana and they made good results out side Tirana so its wird that they returned to Tirana...

Pobeda suck in Skopje but do very well in europ when they play in Prilep, same with our handball NT who do poor in Skopje and do well in Bitola..
 

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Its Kumanovo;) !!!

Anyway your righet, i forgott that game it wos a drow as you told 2-2.... But that is one more game out side Skopje that we did not lose... So all in all we playd 8 games out side skopje and did not lose one sigel game...

Malta my be poor, but Egypet(one of the best africa teams),Finland and Bulgaria are prity good teams, and Albania is not that bad...

That cant be un coincidence....

In Prilep we beat Finland 1-0, In Skopje we lose 0-3 :rollani: Finland playd 90% with the same team...

A you told, Albania tryd to play out side Tirana and they made good results out side Tirana so its wird that they returned to Tirana...

Pobeda suck in Skopje but do very well in europ when they play in Prilep, same with our handball NT who do poor in Skopje and do well in Bitola..
Albania has no defence, i saw highlights from yesterday match and Macedonias defenders are pretty the same :yuck: when the opposite team striker comes with the ball they dont bother him to take the ball,they just hope that he will shoot and miss:hopefull:eek:r poor goalkeeper save it.
Yeah it was 2-2 against Egypt
here you have all the matches and scorers up till 2002
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/fyrom-intres.html
 

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btw, while talking about moving outside Skopje, what about everything else that is related with football. For example, they could do something with picture quality, i can honestly say, that the quality of our TV is equal to some "5th world" country. Its absolutely disgusting to see that exsoviet technology we use. Than, what about some modern board for results? And other stuffs. Are we that poor, or people only want money for themselves.
 

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I totally agree with you Naum and if you look at the attendace in Skopje its always poor, even @ Vardar games who should always get big crowds no matter what the team is the pride of Macedonia its got the most tittles and best soccer history in the country, yet they hardly get 500 people at games. Maybe its cause Skopje is a big city and there are other things people can do in the city so sports is not the main thing on peoples mind but it should be and its a shame a team like Rabotnicki and Vardar dont get larger crowds. A solution is a new stadium and it has to be build from the ground up no Tumbe Kafe, no Goce Delcev, no Mladost no remodeling!!! we have to build a brand new stadium around 15,000 (we dont need a bigger one since we can never sell out games unless we play England) and it has to be in the right place aka Ohrid, Bitola, Prilep or even Strumica. Cities like that always have more attendace cause people are hungrier over there they want to watch the NT more then anything unlike in Skopje were people are spoiled and have seen our NT way too many times for it to be special anymore. But there is always politics involved and i dont see this happening any time soon just look at Croatia they have a much better stadium in Split but yet they play there games in Zagreb probably cause its the capital city. :rollani:
 

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Дефинитивно треба натпреварите што се со помал интерес и на кој се очекува помалку гледачи да се играат надвор од Скопје. За овој циклус тоа би биле натпреварите со Андора и Естонија
Good idea but none of the other "stadiums" are good enough for UEFA standards maybe the one in Strumica but that one is way too small probably less then 5,000 in attendace.
 
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Albania has no defence, i saw highlights from yesterday match and Macedonias defenders are pretty the same :yuck: when the opposite team striker comes with the ball they dont bother him to take the ball,they just hope that he will shoot and miss:hopefull:eek:r poor goalkeeper save it.
Yeah it was 2-2 against Egypt
here you have all the matches and scorers up till 2002
http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/fyrom-intres.html

Thanks for the link :thumbsup: it did fresh up my memory a bit.... Game Macedonia-Bulgaria wos playd in Strumica not in Prilep according to this webpage and We beat Malta 1-0 in Prilep and not 2-0, Ciric scord.... Stavrevski scord VS Finland and Serafimovski VS Albania in Prilep, and the game Macedonia-Albania (2003) in Prilep is not up since its only 2002 as you say...

Macedonias defenders are pretty the same
Not many times but last time, yes defenitive.... Igor Mitreski made two bigg mistakes and according to me hi is responsible for bothe goals, i dont know if you did see the goals but at the first goal he tryd to make a clearing with the header and he did pass the ball very sweet to a Russian attacker who become alone with Nikolsoki, a nice assist by Mitreski but in the wrong direction.... 2 goal i dont know what Igor did :rollani: he just look at the Russian attacker and let him run through him with out problems.... I dont know what wos wrong with Igor, normaly he is very good, this time he wos responsible for bothe goals,,, a part from that they almsot scord the opener before that with a mistake from the same boy....

If ther wos Manchesters aganets last day on place i think that his chances did smoke up in the fire last day...


But this is op topic,,, lets talk about Macedonia out side Skopje....
 
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Ambis i agree with you with everything , yes we can build a new stadium, it dont need to be in the city Prilep or Bitola, it can be in the middle of the citys, 12 KM from bothe citys so peope from bothe Bitola,Prilep will have close to the stadium and not to long distance for Prespa people... We make the stadium in the center of Pelagonija...

Dont know about the figure nevertheless, i think 15.000 is to bigg, 10.000 will do it and is just fain...

For exampel like this one in Tallin
http://www.worldstadiums.com/europe/countries/estonia.shtml
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/estonia/tallinn_lillekula.shtml
A. Le Coq Arena
Capacity: 9.300
all-seater


This stadium dont have many facility and yet is modern, it dont cost so much as you belive, its prity cheap.. The work can be done in a year if everybady works hard and gett payd.....

That will be our new National Stadium and our NT will play ther and will have the biggest and loudest Macedonian fans that macedonia have to offer, that will help...



Strumica can be the back up stadium, we can play smaller game ther as well... Strumica stadium is modern and dont need any renovation and it have Uefa Standard and we can play there when ever we want...

Strumica Mladost Stadium
Capacity: 6.370
all-seater

The Capacity is OKI !!!
ГРАДСКИ СТАДИОН „МЛАДОСТ“
капацитет од 6000 гледачи, повеке пати реновиран, сега веке со 2 модерно опремени трибини, со столчиња и 1 покриена трибина, со простории (околу 30), кои ги задоволуваат сите критериуми на ФИФА и УЕФА, за одигрување на меѓународни натпревари. На стадионот освен централното игралиште има уште 4 помошни игралишта
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Zaboravija da napishat deka stadionot ima i reffrektori, pa mozi da se igra i na vecer....












Glavniot stadion treba da bide negde vo Pelagonskiot centar, sosema nov izgreden a Strumica od vreme na vreme za pomali natprevari...
 
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